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Question of the Week: 1 - 8/7/2000

Who are you going to vote for and why?

Which political platform or candidate are you leaning towards? Do you think that a level of political involvement is important to pagans? Are you registered to vote, will you vote and who -if you don't mind telling the world- are you planning to vote for (or against)?

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The Establishment Always Says, "if You Don't Vote, Don't Complain". Remember Richard... Aug 9th. at 1:09:13 pm UTC

Saille (Federal Way, Washington US) Age: 47 - Email


The establishment always says, "if you don't vote, don't complain". Remember Richard Nixon???, I have given the system a chance for years.
From that time on I have felt that the democratic system in this country is corrupt and will never be fair. I have felt that politicians are liars, and may have good intentions, once they are in office, they are controlled by forces that are not part of the public picture. No matter what the platform, no matter what the promise - the "real" government - conintues with their agenda.
Yes, what a noble idealistic concept Democracy is, but from someone who was born in the Eisenhower era, saw Kennedy and MLK assasinated, watched Nixon's corrupt regime, eventually watched as a "New World Order" was brought into play with Geo. Bush. Yes I will vote. Because as a Pagan I feel very vulnerable. The Right Wing and Christian Zealot Coalitions are very powerful political entities. I see no Pagan representation except on grass roots levels. A Pagan politician would be committing political suicide to "come out".
It is very important for us to continue to keep our voices heard, in local, state and national arenas.
Yes, I will vote this year - and it will probably be for Ralph Nader.


I Am Leaning Towards Libertarian Presidential Candidate :harry Browne. Check Out Http... Aug 9th. at 1:10:35 pm UTC

Amber Buck (Pasadena, Texas US) Age: 26 - Email


I am leaning towards LIBERTARIAN presidential candidate :HARRY BROWNE.
Check out http://www.harrybrowne.org/ if you haven't heard about his platforms yet.

I think political involvement is / should be important to every American citzen, pagan or non-pagan. I am a registered and participating voter.


Yes I'm Registered To Vote. I Plan To Vote For Gore. I... Aug 9th. at 6:35:27 pm UTC

mothermary (Salem, Massachusetts US) Age: 24 - Email


Yes I'm registered to vote. I plan to vote for Gore. I think most of the crap the government does isn't worth my time. But Bush is way to into the Christian Coalition, and as an American, I will not have my religious freedom taken away. I don't necessarily believe in anything Gore says, but I would prefer a President who is neutral on relgion, than one who is so against anything but Christianity. I see scary things with Bush as president, so I'll vote for the guy who has a chance to beat him. To me that makes most sense. If I vote for someone else who has a slim chance of winning, even if I agree with him more, that gives Bush a better chance at winning. So hell no - I won't go. I may be the only one of my friends who will vote, but I believe in responsibility. If you let other people do the voting and don't bother - don't bother to complain. You let the fates handle your life instead of taking part in it. That goes against the whole principle freedom of the Craft. You Make your own life. Not let someone else dictate to you how to live....


I Could Not Wait To Turn 18 So I Could Vote. While... Aug 9th. at 6:52:56 pm UTC

Cassandra (Taylor, Michigan US) Age: 23 - Email


I could not wait to turn 18 so I could vote. While many people in my generation believe that voting is worthless, I believe it is not only my right, but my duty. I think that political involvement is important for many reasons. Being pagan, I often feel that the Right Wing politicians are constantly trying to force there beliefs down my throat. I'm a liberal and am truely independant. I'm still not sure who I will vote for in the presidential election, but after watching most of the republican convention I'm fairly sure it will not be George W. Bush!


The Green Party/ Ralph Nader Yes. Without Some Kind Of Toehold In... Aug 9th. at 7:23:06 pm UTC

pythia (White Plains, New York US) Age: 27 - Email


The Green Party/ Ralph Nader
Yes. Without some kind of toehold in politics no changes will be able to be made within the system.
Yes I am registered, will vote and will continue to vote Green here on in.


I Tend To Lean Towards Republicans Because My Husband Is In The... Aug 9th. at 7:30:29 pm UTC

Cheryl (San Diego, California US) Age: 30 - Email


I tend to lean towards Republicans because my husband is in the military and I have watched our standard of living deteriorate under Clinton and his cutbacks. Most, Jr. Enlisted qualify for food stamps or other government assistance. Our husbands deploy more often, do to the cut backs in personnel of the early to mid 90's. As for religion, I am "trusting" they just wont go there. I feel that big government must go and the DNC is big on government. Most issues must be dealt with at a local level. I also believe that the government must get its hands out of my pocket. The DNC also promotes class envy. This is negative. Why not promote opportunity for all? I have no problem paying to feed hungry children, but not promoting class envy. Why not, instead, make sure everyone has the same opportunities. I am for school valtures, and why not make college education free for those who can't afford it? If feel that if food, clothing, housing and a good education are available to all, everyone has an equal chance to make it. The government has been "trying" to provide this, but they have failed. It needs to be taken to a local level and let the people who really care, make the decisions, not some bureaucrat who only cares what is going on in THEIR life.


My Wife And I Are Registered Democrats. We Strongly Support The Gore-lieberman... Aug 9th. at 8:01:18 pm UTC

Big Bear(Beary Bipolar,Richard) (New Haven, Connecticut US) Age: 44 - Email


My wife and i are registered Democrats. We strongly support the Gore-Lieberman ticket.As Jesse Jackson said when a barrior goes down for one group it goes down for them all(paraphrase).Perhaps in my friends' grandchidrens' lifetime someone who is out of the broomcloset will hold a high office in the U.S. I am also hopeful that in the same time frame folks who are out of the attic and
out of the closet will have the same priviledge/responsibilty. Losing focus . . . Blessed be,
Big Bear(Beary Bipolar, Richard)
beary1956@webtv.net
bearybipolar:diary of a mental health consumer/survivor
http://www.angelfire.com/ct/bearybipolar/index.html


As A Free Thinker And One Who Is Leaning Towards Paganism(have... Aug 9th. at 9:28:24 pm UTC

truthseeker (winter park, Florida US) Age: 51


As a free thinker and one who is leaning towards Paganism(have not yet made a full commitmet) I see Gore and Liberman as the only logical choice. Mr bush seems to be in the pocket of those who will not be happy until everyone is fitted with vlinders and praising jesus. While I do not begrudge those who make that choice I do not wish to have it force fed to me or anyone else. Add to that the nmber of supreme court judges that are likely to be appointed during the next four years and the repuublican ticket looks might frighting.


Personally, I Am Trying To Keep My Religious/spiritual Views Somewhat Separated... Aug 9th. at 10:18:59 pm UTC

C. Demourres (Berlin, New Hampshire US) Age: 21


Personally, I am trying to keep my religious/spiritual views somewhat separated from my political views...However, I believe that all of my beliefs, in one way or another, will be factored into my decision in November. From what I have seen and heard to date - George W. Bush is an honest, moral, and motivated candidate and will probibally receive my vote.
Yes, both major candidates , Bush and Gore, have displayed their religious preferences, however... when Gore and Leiberman took a moment, publically, to pray and thank God, I couldn't help but wonder how they would react, in a similar situation, if a Pagan took a moment, publically, to thank the Goddess?


I Have Never Voted Before On Any Level For Anything.and As A... Aug 9th. at 11:44:33 pm UTC

Kimberly A.LaPradd (Lake Village) Age: 31 - Email


I HAVE NEVER VOTED BEFORE ON ANY LEVEL FOR ANYTHING.AND AS A PRACTICING WITCH OF 8 YEARS NOW TO THE CONTINUANCE OF THE REST OF MY BEING, I DO KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF FREEDOM OF CHOICE TO ANY DEGREE. MY HEART IS IN JOY WITH THE FACT THAT WE CAN FINALLY BE WHO WE WERE SENT TO BE.AND TRULY WITHOUT US THE WORLD WOULD BE A HORRIBLE PLACE.FOR ALL OF YOU WHO KEEP WITHIN AS WELL AS WITHOUT THE LAWS I LOVE YOU, WE HAVE TRULY COME A LONG WAY. I DO NOT KNOW WERE WE ARE REALLY STANDING AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I ONLY HOPE THAT WE SOAR. AND WE WILL , SO LONG AS WE CONTINUE TO STAND STRAIGHT IN CHARACTER.IN THIS SAID I WILL BE VOTING THIS YEAR FOR AL GORE. I WANT TO BELIEVE THAT HE HAS US IN HIS THOUGHTS AND HE IS FIRM IN HIS BELIEF OF FREEDOMS.I FEEL HE WOULD DO A LOT OF GOOD FOR ALL PEOPLE AND BELIEFS IN OUR COUNTRY.IT IS TIME THAT WE ALL GIVE BACK TO THE SOURCES OF OUR SPIRITUAL QUEST'S.AND AL GORE WILL LIGHT THE WAY FOR ALL OF US SEEKING THE PATH.SINCERELY!!!


I Am So Glad You Offered Up This Topic, Thank You Wren... Aug 10th. at 12:13:46 am UTC

Trystia (Houston, Texas US) Age: 35 - Email


I am so glad you offered up this topic, thank you Wren & Fritz!

Yes, I'm registered to vote, I will vote, even if I didn't care for the choices. Voting is a right that my ancestors generously fought and died to provide me with. It is a representation of a freedom that one cannot take for granted, especially in this day and age where the simplest freedoms such as the right to individual choice of worship is something that is continuously fought to protect. Freedom like love, can be taken for granted, folks seem to neglect at times that all precious things in life must be maintained, watched over, worked on and cherished. The right to vote is one of these precious commodities in life. As small as an individual may seem to be, that individual can be the turning point to any issue, or debate...The concept of a whisper becoming a roar is very apt in this regard.

I don't mind stating who I will vote fot. Im voting for the Gore ticket. I live in Texas, and while I won't Bush-bash, I will say I have seen a serious decline in important issues affecting my home state, and an alarming bias against faith that is not mainstream. I don't personally wish to test the waters and put in office someone who may or may not be personally responsible for these happenings.

Gore is a known entity. The country has never seen the prosperity that it has seen in the last several years. He's held his head up with dignity during trying times, and continued to do his job. His attitude towards enviromental issues is encouraging to me, in this time when the enviroment, especially in my area, is at such risk. I prefer personally to put someone in office who I believe I can read. Who's every action is clear in it's intent to me, whether I agree with it or not, and doesn't seem to put his personal spiritual view points ahead of the rights of the individuals who put him in office. He is a representation of the people who will put him in the oval office, I know from observation, that Bush has not shown those traits in this state strongly, in the short time he's been in the political arena.

I don't agree with everything that Gore seems to represent. I don't agree with all of his opinions. But I do believe that I know where he stands. With Bush, I don't feel that at all.

On a lighter note...A clean desk seems to be Bush's most important daily task, preferring nothing at all on his desktop. That's just plain sick!


Although I Am A Registered Democrat, I Usually Vote For The Candidate... Aug 10th. at 1:15:31 am UTC

Kate O. (Lodi, California US) Age: 42 - Email


Although I am a registered Democrat, I usually vote for the candidate that seems to hold those political paradigms which are most congruent to my own on the issues confronting us; socially, economically, ecologically, globally and politically.

I embrace the Green Party Platform on many levels and have actively participated in many of their fundraising functions. If I did not perceive such a dire threat to our religious freedom and other civil rights from the conservative christian right, which seems to represent a major voting block in the Republican Party, I would probably cast a vote toward Ralph Nader. However, in perceiving this threat to my own religious freedom and my right to choose my own morality within the context of my faith, I see no other course but to vote to defeat the Bush/Cheney ticket by voting for Gore/Lieberman.

I once held out hope and respect for Al Gore. His acquiessence and silence on environmental issues has deeply disappointed and saddened me. Politics is a game best played under the covers. Having been active in the political scene in Orange County, California, I realize the sad truth of this premise. I am praying with all my heart that Al Gore was just holding his cards close to his heart until he could get the power card that would trump his opponents and give him, and us, the winning hand.

Do I believe that a level of political involvement is important to pagans? Damn right I do!!! We must be ever vigilant and active to retain that which is ours by right of our birth, freedom. Our liberty to worship as we please and share in the rights, power, priviledges and obligations of this Nation demands no less than this.

Whether we are reclaiming the ancient religious heritage of our pagan forbears, or creating a faith of our own spirit's making, we must be involved in knowing and challenging the system which seeks to socially condition us into their mainstream. Herd mentality has its benefits to those who seek to exploit the masses. Individuals are harder to rule and control, and a collective of individuals hardest of all. Voting is a symbolic token of my right to choose my destiny, ...or at least an attempt to!!!

So I will vote for Al Gore in November and I will pray that Liberty, the Goddess of Tolerance, will continue to shine on our Land and in the hearts of her people.


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