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Question of the Week: 104 - 3/24/2003

Have You Changed Your Mind About the War in Iraq?

Many people were initially for or against the possibility of a war in Iraq. Now that it is a reality and troops are on the ground, have you changed your mind or your position on the war?

Do you think that anti-war protests should cease? Do you think that an even greater divide has opened up between those who hold differing ideologies?

Do you think that the suspension of certain civil liberties for security reasons is appropriate during war time? Do YOU feel safer? Will the world be more secure because of this action?

What – if anything – concerns you the most about the war in Iraq?

 Reponses:   There are 258 responses posted to this question. Reverse Sort 

I Still Waiting Mar 31st. at 1:50:10 am EST

Skeggi (NZ) Age: 32 - Email

For the proof that this man has womd. Even if he had them the inspections were working and there was no need for a war.
I glad the iraqis are putting up a good fight, maybe one day the world will learn not to force a peoples back to the wall. And overwhelming firepower is no safegaurd against being killed.

America are white knights? They save the world?
Maybe. So they can rape and pillage it too. Liberate people to force them to live in a democracy?
Smother native cultures with their own commercial canned culture.
Freedom to speak as long as we agree with what you say or you can afford the legal fees.

How many Iraqis have we liberated perminatly now? 4000, 5000?
Goddess bless Iraq.

This Illegal War Mar 31st. at 5:03:04 am EST

Sloopz (Scotland) Age: 17 - Email - Web

My feelings about this war hace never differed I am agaisnt all forms of violence, raciasm etc.

I will never change my mind about this war Link to More info related to this post -- HERE

Unjustified War In Iraq Mar 31st. at 7:27:30 am EST

george francis (arclid green) Age: 13 - Email

ok. so like, personally, i do not see how this war is justified.
i mean i get the whole thing with the gulf war, but i just don't get this war. email me if you agree!

Unjustified War Mar 31st. at 7:36:53 am EST

Taz (Food Tech room, School) Age: 13 - Email

I don't agree with the war because Bush says that it will help the people of Iraq but how is it going to help them by blowing them into little pieces? Also, whats the point of teaching us about how horrible war is in school, if we're going to keep making the same mistakes over and over again? How can you justify killing innocent people?

Don't We Ever Learn? Mar 31st. at 9:49:04 am EST

Tyladragonfly (St. Pete Fl) Age: 52 - Email

I have felt from the very beginning that, regardless of our 'rationale', this war is about oil, oil, oil. If you look at Mr. Bush's holdings, you will find oil, oil, oil. Duh, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the personal conflict of interest here. Additionally, he has a family interest that says he is supposed to clean up his father's historical legacy.

No, I don't think that Mr. Hussein is a good person, who takes into account the needs of his people. So, yes, I do think that he needs to be removed, but by his own people. Those people have not made much effort to try to get rid of him. They have used suicide bombers, though, to try to get rid of US troops...and British troops, and the 300 Spanish troops that are over there. So, if they have the willingness to actually change their way of life, and their leadership, then, they have to show that to the world...before we jump in and "liberate" them. Too late now, they are going to have to suffer the price of living the way they have chosen, rather than the way Mr. Bush, et al, have decided they should live.

AAAARGH...didn't we learn a darned thing in Viet Nam? In Korea...Yep, we learned that we can spend more lives, and more money that anyone else in the world to try to create a world that looks like the US government (note, I didn't say the US people) want it to look like...and not quite succeed. By the way, during the Viet Nam war there was a television ad that said, "If all of the old men fought the war..." and showed two old men about to have a duel...far fewer young men and women would have been lost in this and other battles. And I heard that only one person in the US Congress has a child in the military...does anyone know if this is true? Scarey when they can send the common person off to fight their wars...huh?

May we find balance one way or the other...and no, I don't feel any safer today than I did three weeks ago. I didn't feel threatened then, and I don't feel threatened anyone but my own rights are dwindling away day by day.


War Solves Nothing.... Mar 31st. at 10:33:18 am EST

Wendella (kenosha, wi) Age: 38 - Email

I am against the war because it solves nothing. I am also against those who protest the war by use of violence or by making it difficult for others to continue with their lives because they have to block the way. That makes them no better than the politicians pushing the war. Those protesters give the rest of us against the war a bad rap. Please, demonstrate in a peaceful manner. Isn't that what the protest is about anyway, PEACE? If protesters don't demonstrate peacefully, how can they sway anyone's decision.

As for taking some civil liberties away, that makes our government no better than the one we are trying to throw out in Iraq. Is it fair to take away what we have worked so hard for? What message does that send the world about our country? The US is run by hippocrates because they tell the world to be a free and our own freedoms are being taken away and given to CORPORATIONS, a non-living entity.

What concerns me most about the war is the future it will provide for our children. They will inherit the War Invoice and pay. They will inherit an even sicker planet because of the distruction since GW wants to have permission granted for the Military to be above the environmental laws. It also concerns me because Dubya thinks he is the Messiah with "A charge to keep" since his Mommy told him he was a Moses figure.

War is a devise of the paternistic world we live in. Men have a tendency to think with the wrong brain. Look at the missles being used to blow things up. There is a resemblence don't you think?

I am for peace, love, and harmony.....Blessed be to everyone!!!!


Past Mistakes Mar 31st. at 12:26:24 pm EST

Toni (England) Age: 13 - Email

I don't agree with this war and I never did. I don't see how all the politicians and President Bush can justify killing innocent people. I know that Haussen has killed a lot of his people, but aren't we going to kill a lot more by bombing his country? What is the point of making us learn about war and how horrible it is in school if we're going to make the same mistakes over and over again? I know a lot of people don't take teenagers and children seriously because they're young and that, but they should do. We may only be young but we know the difference between right and wrong, between peace and war. And we know war is wrong.

Old War Or New Mar 31st. at 12:29:30 pm EST

brigid (pittsburgh) Age: 33 - Email

my opinion has not changed on this war...i haven't even decided yet if this is a new war or a continuation of the original desert storm/gulf war. the fact of the matter is that george w. is trying to clean up the mess his father left behind...both wars though were about oil. even gen. schwarzkopf (if that's how you spell it) believes that (hindsight being 20-20) we should have never delcared a cease-fire in desert storm...we should have finished the job and taken out saddam hussein then. if the u.s. is really going to stay in iraq this time and clean up and put a new government in place and make sure it takes hold then possibly this war may be a good thing in the long run. sadly though, iraq is a nation full of infighting between it's tribal peoples and they have been fighting amongst themselves for millenia. that will not likely change no matter what we do. it just all seems so pointless. even more so when you realize that they are really only fighting about oil. we are a technologically advanced society. let's spend our money and lives developing new technologies to make oil obsolete. it is better for all of us and mother earth. above all else we should all heed the wiccan rede "an it harm none, do what thou will". i'll support our troops but never the war!

Congratulations USA Mar 31st. at 2:36:05 pm EST

Skeggi (NZ) Age: 32 - Email

I would like to publicly congratulate the USa and her Allies, Both of them, for bringing up the figure of 5000 Iraqi dead. Well done. Excellent work. That will teach them to live in another country.

The Man Bringing You Down Again? Mar 31st. at 6:21:00 pm EST

Maleciah (Oregon) Age: 25 - Email

Am I to understand that you guys want to let the people inside Iraq get saddam out on their own? do you think they can? if that is the case, why hasn't it been done by the Iraqi people already? if he is as bad as everyone says he is. What other option do the Iraqi people have than to have outside help to cripple him? I am curious cause I am for getting him out but all I hear is critisism about both sides, that he needs to go and that the US is "slaughtering" people in Iraq. If you want Saddam out? what would have gotten him out short of this? if you really wanted to take pride in Iraq then why were you not back at home fighting him to where the US didn't have the excuse of Saddam to go in and get him out? why were you not fighting for your country then? why would you wait till the US comes and starts this campaign before you get angry enough to fight for your country and it's freedom? why would you have waited so long to get him out if you didn't need outside help? Patriotism is a relative term eh? Or was it just ok to have him there killing because he happens to be arabian? Cause it is one of your own country, you are not ok with fighting him all this time? but the US steps in to finish the job they get yelled at? It sounds like so many people are too busy shouting their anger and getting it out to fight or do something to change it.. such is the life of living under a dictator.

I Hate War But.......... Mar 31st. at 6:22:41 pm EST

Marci (new jersey) Age: 39 - Email

I hate the idea of war, the reality of war, the loss of war............all of it, but............the fact is , now, that is what's happening and we really need to support our troops even if we don't "agree" with the war. I am prior military and it has to feel like a slap in the face to our people every time they hear of a protest. they need us to be behind them. to know we love them and that we're thinking of them , night and day. they need to know that we are sending as much positive energy their way as we can, not that we are screaming in the streets how wrong they are and how wrong the prez is, all negative energy in many ways. Namaste,

Support????? Mar 31st. at 6:31:05 pm EST

Dan Magick (Québec City) Age: 43 - Email

Personaly I don't think getting people killed in a stupid and obviously poorly thought out war is supporting them.I would not shed a tear if George W Custer chocked to death on
a pretzel but I wish no harm to the soldiers on either side
and I want them all to go home to their families.

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