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Posted: Sep. 8, 2002
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911 America: Talking Through The Terror...
Talking Through The Terror... And helping each other cope with the tragedies that struck at the very heart of the United States. The Witches Voice has opened up this forum in order that Pagans may express their thoughts on the terrorist attacks that took place in NYC and DC on September 11th. As the full realization of what happened and the toll numbers begin to come in, Americans have many challenges ahead.
What are your thoughts on these incidents? How are you feeling? Feel free to post any magickal workings or other support gatherings planned in your area.
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| To Those Responsible For The Acts Of Terrorism Today:may You Find... ||Sep 11th. at 11:01:05 pm UTC|
|Meghan (Aurora, Colorado US) ||Age: 31 |
To those responsible for the acts of terrorism today:
May you find no shelter or peace. May your thirst not be slaked, may you belly ache in hunger at a feast. May those who harbor you turn you out naked before vengeance. May your friends turn their back, your spouse make you wither, and your children spit on you. May you be turned out from under your rock quickly, and thrown in chains of burning iron. May your flesh be torn asunder slowly, and your heart roasted over the open flame. You will be found, and you will be punished. Go mbrise do chuid naimhde thś. may your enemies break you.
So says Meghan, Miadhachain Breachadh ni Choncobhair
| When I First Heard The News I Didn't Believe It. Like Many... ||Sep 11th. at 11:01:09 pm UTC|
|Big John (South Amboy, New Jersey US) ||Age: 40 |
When I first heard the news I didn't believe it. Like many, I watched the in horror as the second tower collapsed on live TV this morning. What made it all too real for me was seeing the smoke/dust cloud with my own eyes. I live in central/eastern New Jersey and I used to be able to see the towers from a local beach. Last night, I took a walk on that beach (as I often do) after dark. It was a warm clear night, before moon rise. I saw the towers for the last time then. What a tragedy.
What worries me now is the anger I've seen in many of the people I've met today. Too many are just looking for someone to blame. Revenge is all that's on their mind. Yet we don't even know who is responsible as yet.
So I call upon everyone out there to keep a cool head. Let's worry about helping the victims for now, then we should find the truth about what happened and who is responsible before we, as a nation, take action.
My heart is very heavy tonight.
| So I May Not Be As Old As Some People On Here... ||Sep 11th. at 11:01:17 pm UTC|
|Obsidiana Silverfang (Terrace) ||Age: 14 - Email |
So i may not be as old as some people on here or as experienced but i cant shake the feeling there is more to come this may sound rash but i just cant shake the feeling.well this may sound heartless but i just dont feel sorry for the people on the flight and in the building for their families yes but ive never been the type to be upset over death im just well i can think of the exact words it like well......I know its a natural part of life and we all die at the time were supposed to there is no such thing as dieing before your time so I know that probably sounds heartless and i know i am young to be thinking like that or whatever i just have and understanding of what im saying so if you dont like what i said well you can just ignore this its not neccessary to read but if it helped someone or something i guess it wasnt all that bad.
| My Country Is Under Siege And I Am In Canada, Helpless To... ||Sep 11th. at 11:03:21 pm UTC|
|Ananda (Kitchener, Ontario CA) ||Age: 30 - Email |
My country is under siege and I am in Canada, helpless to do anything other than light a candle and pray to Mother Kali. To all my brothers and sisters in the United States, I wish you the strength to carry on. As are many, I am sending healing, strength, and protection.
I hope together we may be enough.
| I Have Been Watching The News All Day, Ever Since My Mother... ||Sep 11th. at 11:03:51 pm UTC|
|Puck Shadowdrake (Ypsilanti, Michigan US) ||Age: 44 - Email |
I have been watching the news all day, ever since my mother woke me up with this. This has just been mind-numbing!!! Watching the photos of the carnage over and over will probably haunt me the rest of my life!
May the Goddess and God watch over us all...WE NEED IT!!!
Puck Shadowdrake, HP,
Circle of Glas Dracorum
| As A Military Pagan, I Can Offer This:what We Witnessed Today... ||Sep 11th. at 11:04:51 pm UTC|
|Don Branum (Montgomery, Alabama US) ||Age: 26 - Email |
As a military Pagan, I can offer this:
What we witnessed today was not simply a terrorist act. It was an act of war; further, it was a war crime. Today, I mourn both the innocent men and women who died in the New York attack, and the men and women, my brothers and sisters in arms, who died in the Washington, D.C. attack.
Tomorrow, I may be called to do more than mourn. . . though, more than likely, I will not. If I am called, I will respond.
I will *always* remember where I was on 11 September 2001, at 0748 Central Time.
But in the meantime, my life marches on. My cats will still demand their fresh food and water as part of their morning ritual. I will continue to do what I sought to do when I joined the service, by helping people wherever and whenever I can.
And I will join my brothers and sisters of every nationality and every religion in greeting tomorrow as the new day it is: with renewed faith, courage, and compassion.
| This Is A Senseless Tragedy, And A Trumpet Call None Of Us... ||Sep 11th. at 11:07:40 pm UTC|
|Amy (Vancouver, British Columbia CA) ||Age: 32 - Email |
This is a senseless tragedy, and a trumpet call none of us can ignore. No matter what name or face we give to the Divine, no matter what geographical area we live in, THIS event unites the world and all humanity.
I have lit a white candle and put as much love and wishes for peace and energy as I could into it... AND IT IS NOT BURNING DOWN! The flame never wavers, the wax is not burning down. I am stunned, I have never seen this happen before. This is a small miracle in the face of the events of this sad sad day.
I agree with all my brothers and sisters in the Craft of the Wise, now is not the time for retribution, rather it is a time for an uniting of intent and putting forward our best to The Great Work. This is the sort of thing the great works of the witches in England did in the second world war... can we do less?
I sincerely pray that we do not escalate into WAR, or even genocide.
The world has changed today, forever... and only the Gods know for sure what it will become. I urge all of us to unite and put forth our love and magick and hopefully we can add our power to that of all our brothers and sisters of all faiths and nationalities and make it a good place after all!
| Currently On The Outside, Looking In, But Liking A Lot Of What... ||Sep 11th. at 11:07:53 pm UTC|
|Richard (MARTELLE, Iowa US) ||Age: 39 - Email |
Currently on the outside, looking in, but liking a lot of what I'm reading (Scott Cunningham's "Wicca for the Solitary Practitioner")and hearing ("lurking" in WitchVox (BBoard-sense only; don't read anything sinister into the statement:-)). My toe's wet, and I'm strongly debating wading in.
In light of this morning's horror, I found this Spell for Easing Grief link:
I'm sure many folk have their own, but it does evoke some comforting imagery, and I think some restoration of comfort to those of us who remain is in order.
I can only hope it helps someone in the manner it did me today.
I find my personal belief system is more in line with what I am experiencing through the book and the Vox than what I have been raised in (Judeo-Chrisitianity), and continue in my Wicca readings and studies. I look forward to communicating (and communing)with fellow believers. Please feel free to e-mail me with constructive words and suggestions. May the God and Goddess protect and keep thee in these Troubled Times. Blessed be.
| It Is With Great Sorrow That We See Events Such As This... ||Sep 11th. at 11:12:18 pm UTC|
|Siryn Dolphinsong, Aydan McEverett and The Southern Circle of the Willow Moon (Albany, Georgia US) ||Age: 35 - Email |
It is with great sorrow that we see events such as this today.
Though anger is a justified emotion, we must rationalize who we focus it on as jumping to conclusions would bring us to the level of those who created this mayhem.
I am not one to turn the other cheek, it's just spontaneity at this time could I believe multiply the disasters. After it is determined who deployed this murderous event then balance shall prevail.
Wouldn't it beneficial right now to use our strengths to send many positive and empathetic energies to the victims and their families that are left behind?
Energies should as well go to the victims that have survived this tragedy as it is for sure, they will be suffering not only from physical injuries but in their mindset from what only was seen by their eyes first hand.
We have affiliates who are Pagans/Witches and are military who will be taking a risk soon themselves to be sent in the recovery process. We pray for them as well as anyone that braves such a task.
| Many People Will Ask In Future Years, "what Were You Doing When... ||Sep 11th. at 11:13:57 pm UTC|
|Jamie (Dekalb & Melrose Park/Northlake (Chicago), Illinois US) ||Age: 20 - Email |
Many people will ask in future years, "What were you doing when NYC and DC were attacked? Me? I was being lazy. Honestly! I did not want to go to my 9:30 class. Then I heard my phone ring twice, 9:10ish. I didn't want to get down from my bed, my roommate didn't wake up. So, I ignored it. I did get up maybe 10 minutes later. I was awake enough to realize, why would someone call me twice? So, I checked my voicemail. My boyfrend called. He's screaming for me to turn on the tv, telling me of the terror that has happened. I basically started to be hysterical. I turned on the tv, woke my roommate, turned on my computer. We all know what unfolded after that.
My next fear was on Chicago. My family, my friends. They live 5 miles away from O'Hare airport. I have a friend that works on the 75th floor of the Sears Tower. My step-father works at one of the major hospitals in the Loop.
I still fear for my family, my friends. My gut tells me that none of this is over. The US, the world, is paralyzed. What happens tomorrow? What happens when we "relax" a bit?
As I have said to many people, many times today, tonite is a time to pray to whatever diety(s) you believe in. Petty arguments need to be put aside. Tonite is a night to pray for the victims, pray that this ends.
May the God and Goddess watch over our whole nation, our whole world, on this sad, sad, night, and these days after.
| I Am Every Sadden And Heart Broken Over The Attack On Our... ||Sep 11th. at 11:14:25 pm UTC|
|Sonya Skelton Aka Raven Hair of the Afro Norse (Philadelphia, Pennsylvania US) ||Age: 31 - Email |
I am every sadden and heart broken over the attack on our home land and our kin. And now i write this pray to the Asrgods to clean up, and protect our kin, and to bring justices to the our land,
I call apond you swift Freya, great leader of the valkries... come and take the dead heros of this fray how gave there lives to save others. Take these heroes to Gladsheim so the alfather will honor them in Valhalla
I call apond Nanann the loveing wife of Balder to come down and comfort the grieving and soothe their pain in this time of need.
I call apond you almighty Tyr Great warrior of Justice come down from Glitnir (the hall of splendor) to strike down those with your axe who use hate and violence in the name
I call apond you Hella great Queen of hel. call forth Hagalaz apond the heads of murderers of the innocent
may their punishment be just and fast
may their suffering belong.
I call you Heimdal the watcher of the Bilfrost bridge watch over us in our time of need.
May no harm cross our sea, May no evil cross our bourders.
May no more of our kin of all colors and all faiths shall not be harmed.
I call you Oh powerful Thor to protect our land and the son and daughters of this land. And with your great hammer of thunder and lighting defeat the hateful and the wicket that will bring harm apond our land.
I call to you ODIN Great war king bring forth your blessings.
May our war be of the mind not of the sword.
May no more blood be spiled may no more lives lost to hate and intolerence.
May we find strength in your wisdom. And my your children of vineland (USA) live in peace and hormony.
May your power be strong...
| I Am Not Only Sad Because Of This, But Also Terrified, Not... ||Sep 11th. at 11:16:08 pm UTC|
|Buddha Eireagle (Austin, Texas US) ||Age: 14 - Email |
I am not only sad because of this, but also terrified, not of the terrorists, but of my own country. Today, thousands of my brothers, my sisters, my mothers and fathers have died. Probably even more will die beneath the rubble tonight and tomorrow. And though i am sad, i feel no anger for those who hijacked the plane because they were doing what they THOUGHT was right at the time, and they were also probably a little insane, as are all people who would think of taking a human life. But we have to realize that they did this for a reason. Whether it be the united state's cultural imperialism, or the fact that we are the global nobility, or that we are allies of Israel, or turning Iraq into little more than a bomb crater, we have to identify why they hate us so much that they would kill, and work to change that. For even if we destroy every terrorist group there is, like the hydra, 3 times as many will pop up. We cannot resolve this with blood, but with love. But not everyone, espiecally in the government, will realize this, and this is why im terrified. if the terrorists are from the middle east, which they probably are, and iraq or palestine or whomever are harboring them, we will almost certainly go to war with them, and so libya, and egypt, and china, and all of the other countries that are our "enemies" will go to war with us and our allies. to put it another way, WWIII.:(
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