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Question of the Week: 14 - 11/6/2000

The Unresolved US Election

Did YOU vote? Which candidate did you vote for? How do you feel about the political wrangling going on right now in Florida? Will/Should either candidate concede for the good of the country-or should either/both fight it out until we all scream for mercy? How do you think either candidate, if declared the winner, will be able to bring the country together given the inference that the election results now point to an America that is almost equally divided into one camp or the other? And the BIG question-What, if any, impact will the final results have on the Pagan communities?

 Reponses:   There are 263 responses posted to this question. Reverse Sort 


The Repubs. Continue To Say Things Like The Person In Charge Of... Nov 12th. at 5:32:24 pm UTC

Amanda (Port St. Lucie, Florida US) Age: 47 - Email


The repubs. continue to say things like the person in charge of approving the Palm Beach County ballots is a democrat, but not all democrats voted for Gore. And, secondly, a person in the work-a-day world is used to filling out forms. After being a housewife or retired for a number of years, it is difficult to look at the forms with such ease. Or, for that matter, a person who works outside all day and takes his orders verbally. I am shocked and appalled by how so many dismiss the votes of these people. Even Bush doesn't want to be bothered with such trivia. It would be like accepting any award accidently, and then knowing it, going up on stage to accept it. We wouldn't have much respect for someone who would do that, would we? So, can we be proud of our new president if it is Bush under these circumstances? I, a Florida resident, would like to have my neighbors' votes counted as what they intended when they cast it. I agree the will of the people should elect the president, so to ignore the will of almost 20, 000 who would have the deciding vote is to me, very disrespectful. I don't think Mr. Gore is being wrong by wanting these votes to be counted. I appreciate someone appreciating each vote as important.


Yes, I Voted For Gore. Mostly Because Of His Stance On Women's... Nov 12th. at 6:15:14 pm UTC

Naomi Rouse (Ellison Bay, Wisconsin US) Age: 37


Yes, I voted for Gore.
Mostly because of his stance on women's rights and childcare relief.


I Have Found The Election Process This Year To Be Amazing. It... Nov 12th. at 6:39:09 pm UTC

M. C. Haviland (Christmas Valley, Oregon US) Age: 41 - Email


I have found the election process this year to be amazing. It is very exciting to see our Constitution as a working, fluid document. I do wish that the media and the politicians would simply let the process take place instead of polluting it with their non-sense. They are of course working on their own agendas. Regardless we as Americans have a great opportunity to see the whole process working in a way our Founders foresaw and planned for. I find it all to be very exciting and am enjoyig the living Civic lesson we are getting. As to how the end result will effect all of us as Americans, I have faith that the Constitution will continue to work to protect all Americans from the possible infringment on our rights by the government, just as it was intended. We will have to work just as hard however, to see that the protection which this document provides stays in place. Freedom and liberty are not automatic, even in America, but with diligents, common sense and hard work we can all enjoy these things under any President. In the mean time I plan on enjoying the ride.


Greetings, A Reiteration Of The "rules'" For Our Question Of The Week... Nov 12th. at 7:30:18 pm UTC

Fritz Jung (Clearwater, Florida US) Age: 48 - Email


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I Did Not Vote, Due To The Fact That, Y'know, I'm Too... Nov 12th. at 7:43:07 pm UTC

Anika (Harrisburg, Pennsylvania US) Age: 14


I did not vote, due to the fact that, y'know, I'm too young. But, I think, first of all, the media is blowing this WAY out of proportion, and its getting really old really fast(and it only happened a few days ago!!) And I supported Gore, because we were discussing the election in history class, and if Bush wins, it will be one of the first times that the house, senate, and presidency have been controlled by the republicans. Plus, four of the nine Supreme Court members are getting way up there in age, and have been ill. If they die or resign, and Bush gets to appoint new members, he would have influence over almost the whole shebang going on in Washington! I'm concerned, (knowing Bush's views on wiccans, witches, and pagans in general) that they could start actually passing acts that put prayer into public schools and such. For now, though, I guess, I will have to sit back, endure the hype, and hope that the candidate who will be kind to the pagan community wins.


I Voted For Nader. Living In Texas, Voting For Gore Wasn't Going... Nov 12th. at 7:51:50 pm UTC

Aoife Moon (Dallas, Texas US) Age: 20


I voted for Nader. Living in Texas, voting for Gore wasn't going to do much, and so I wanted to use my vote to support a 3rd party (I'm not a fan of the 2-party-winner-takes-all system taht we currently have), even though I don't agree with everything Nader says. However, I've had a bunch of loud, drawn out debates with my parents, who are ardent Bush supporters. I'm also in the doghouse over removing the damn sign from our front yard. it's one of those huge ones - 3' x 5'. Mom says she's furious that Gore is such a 'bad sport' and wants a recount - which is perfectly legal by law. And no, Bush isn't one for doing the same thing in other states.

*grumble* Parents.


As A Pagan, How Could I Have Voted For Anyone But Gore... Nov 12th. at 7:57:21 pm UTC

Thor Quabbin (Melrose, Massachusetts US) Age: 38 - Email


As a Pagan, how could I have voted for anyone but Gore? The only other remote possiblity would have been Nader, but why risk helping Bush in any way. As for the circus going on in Florida, I find it absolutely amazing. How lucky we are to live through one of the most exciting times in U.S. political history! It is maddening, and yes, we will probably be screaming for mercy by the time its finally over, but in the not too distant future we will be looking back and saying "My vote DOES count!". And as for "bringing the country together", lets be real. This country can rarely "come together" for anything unless its a kid stuck in a well. Besides, no matter who wins, in four years Hillary will probably beat either one of them!


Info About Gore.... Here Is A Website Claiming Gore Sought Support From... Nov 12th. at 8:03:30 pm UTC

tim (daytona, Florida US) Age: 33


Info about gore....

Here is a website claiming Gore sought support from hate mongers.

Read it yourself

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200010/POL20001016c.html


Personally I Don't Like Either One. Gore Lies And Bush Is Way... Nov 12th. at 8:03:50 pm UTC

NeoWayland (Flagstaff, Arizona US) Age: 35


Personally I don't like either one. Gore lies and Bush is way to close to the fundamentalist Christians in my opinion.

At least with Bush you know where you stand. With Gore it will change.

But there are some good things that may come out of this. This may do away with the Electorial College. Because of the way Nader was snubbed at that one debate, the process may become more open to third party canidates.

Things are changing, just not as fast as we would like. Did you know there are more registered independents then Republicans or Democrats?


Most People That I Have Spoken To In This Country Have Made... Nov 12th. at 9:28:19 pm UTC

Draconius (Aylesbury, UK, England UK) Age: 26 - Email


Most people that I have spoken to in this country have made the comment "only in America" and all in all that is the way it is viewed over here. It makes a complete farce of democracy and doesn't paint a very good picture of either the Electoral College or protocols of voting and should never have been allowed to happen.

But now that it has, I reckon the simplest thing would be to have a re-vote in Florida (although this may not be the most practicable answer), or for the US to have a 'hung parliament'. I'm only saying that last bit because that's the way it would work in Britain if a government were to get in with such a small majority.

It is also getting a teensy bit monotonous for us not US citizens to turn up at another website and see nothing but the election being discussed, but that's just my personal stuff!


Electoral College Responce. In Regards To The Electoral College, I Truly Believe... Nov 12th. at 11:16:29 pm UTC

anon (Orange County, California US) Age: 25


Electoral College Responce. In regards to the electoral college, i truly believe the system our founding fathers set up is working well. You have to understand that there are alot of states out there that are not as heavily populated as others. For example Texas has many more people than Idaho. If we did away with the electoral system that would make for a very unfair election. You would have the candidates only visiting the HIGHLY populated states and none of the little guys. And why not? Because the little states would not matter, those people would not matter, only the popular states. And thats not fair to each and every american at all.


This Was My First Experience Voting. Being Young And Not Jaded By... Nov 12th. at 11:35:15 pm UTC

SylverHawke (Worcester, New York US) Age: 18 - Email


This was my first experience voting. Being young and not jaded by a "failing" system, I voted for Ralph Nader. Since I live in a traditionally democratic state, it was safe. I knew Al Gore would get the electoral college votes here. If I lived in a "undecided" state, I would have voted for Gore. I am disturbed by the process so far. It seems to be in total chaos with very angry people on both sides. Although the recounted seemed to further confuse and delay the process, I think it is time for the democrats to suck it up and accept defeat. I am not a Bush supporter by any means. Although he probably won't directly effect Pagans (unless he plans on following through with banning ceremonies in the military), he will indirectly effect Pagans and other non-Christians. Allowing the Ten Commandments and school prayer in school makes a lot of people uncomfortable. If you allow on set of religious guidelines in school, where will the line be for others? Although I am disturbed, I am happy that my first time voting was such an exciting thing to watch play out, and it can only get more exciting from here on in.


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