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What Do You See in 2003?

Even though many Pagans celebrate the New Year at Samhain, Solstice or Yule, the new calendar year is upon us. Do you have a resolution to make for 2003?

What do you hope changes? What do you hope stays the same? What do you think the world will be like at the end of 2003?

What national and/or world events will be played out? Will things be better or worse? Got any predictions to declare?

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What I Have Seen For 2003 Dec 31st. at 2:47:12 pm EST

Priestess Electra Danae Willow Heart (North Dakota) Age: 23 - Email

In the last year I have had dreams on what we see today with Iraq and I know that we are going to be in a big war that is going to end in Devestation. And so much I dont want it to happen but because of selfish people and money being an idolized object of greed we will go to war. We dont need a war we need to heal our selves and our lands before fighting anyone but because of the presidents vengents we can not rest we have to worry about our neighboring countries welfare. In my dreams i have seen the attacks on the states and other countries i know it is coming closer and I do believe that saddam is part of this. But the problem lies with attacking some one and putting persuction on someone who has not done anything for years. And though he may be telling the truth now we do not know what will happen in the years to come. Our president has never suffered so he doesnt understand what the great people of the Usa are having to deal with. His family has the money to keep him alive on some resort while bombs pound our countries lands and the future of our children infact what we do now will be the clean up of our children and this is one mess my child should not have to clean up after. Mother Earth is in great problems not just with this undeclared war but also with polution and our atmosphere as a whole, And hopefully new things will be discovered to help us further help with cleaning our lands up.

Blessed Be

Priestess ElectraDanae WillowHeart

Make The Magik Happen Dec 31st. at 5:06:38 pm EST

Catherine (Virginia) Age: 46 - Email

To predict the future is to believe that to some degree the future is pre-determined. In 2003 people will die, I’ll plant roses in the garden, and we humans will continue our quest for the omnipotent truth. Our destiny will move no matter where we stand. We can choose to craft the future or we can ride the tide.

I’ve been all around the world and I can tell you that America is the corporate monster. We are fat and free because we have the most money, the most power, and the most corrupt politicians. We can thank God, perform our rituals, and wave our flag, but that doesn’t really mean much to a hungry child running through the slums of Haiti.

I suggest that in 2003 we stop watching the news and start making the news. If you don’t want war, then stand up for peace. If you don’t want children to starve, then feed them. There are Pagans for peace all over the planet and the numbers are growing at warp speed, but the people in Kabul can’t afford the internet and they are fresh out of libraries. It seems like a good time to REALLY come out of the closet. Each of us has the power to change the future, and together we are a voice loud enough to be heard all over the world. We just have to care enough to step up to the plate.

Sorry For The Double Post But My Whole Post Was Not Posted. Dec 31st. at 6:09:46 pm EST

kaT (Toronto) Age: 33 - Email

I would like to see unity in our diverse sisters and brothers all around our beautiful earth. Perhaps when those who have gone too far will see the light in their darkness. I pray.
I keep a book of 'THANKS'. I write in it every night before I rest for the night. When I read back upon the things I am thankful for Joy overcomes me and I see there is hope, I do good for others and in return good is passed on to another by them. The simplicity of giving kind words, doing something special even if small can change another persons view on life. It is a beautiful chain reaction. As this war is negative, more negative builds and builds to a boiling point...then what?
Oh this is too grim to write about for Peace on this earth, this beautiful gift we were given and all the family is our world yet we all do not have the heart to let go of the past, have an open mind and just LIVE. We were put on this earth to help one another, to love and cherish all we have no matter what it is. Sharing is wonderful and hopefully eyes will open in the darkness of this gloomy nightmare called life.
I know I really did not answer what I was to but in light I wish I could permanently stamp this post in the brains of those who hate people and love hate.
Be good to yourselves deserve it.
Blessings and good health brothers and sisters.

Gaia's Child kaT

Earth Year 2003 - The Year Of Magickal Dreaming Dec 31st. at 8:33:04 pm EST

Rainbow Walker (FL, USA) Age: 54 - Email - Web

BE the Dreamer. Dare to go where none have gone before by Dreaming New Dreams. A New Year’s Eve Dream where you just say no thank you to patterns and miasmas of negativity. Where you say to the forces of entropy, you have no power over our world. 2003 is a 5 year - the 5 elements, the 5 senses, the 5 pointed star. Five is the number of the Hierophant in the Tarot. So I will start the New Year’s Ball rolling forward into a future where I wish 5 things for the everyone in the world. They all begin with the letter E which is the first of the 5 letters in numerology (N & W are the other two).

Dreaming New Year’s List for 2003 for Everyone in the World - I wish you the 5 E’s of Magickal Dreaming - Empathy, Empowerment, Enchantment, Endurance, and Evenness.

Empathy - feeling what others feel, understanding how and why they walked their talk, wearing their boots for a spell, viewing things from the other’s point of view, looking about your days and ways with both the male and female eye of Ra, realizing that you share space and grace with a myriad of other sentient lifeforms all of whom are equally precious to the Goddess/God/All the Is Was and Ever Will Be.

Empowerment - a deep sense of inner knowing that thoughts have wings, that words spoken and written can heal and cure, that you are unique, that you are special, that you can change your destiny, that you can make a difference, that you do make a difference with every step that you take and every move that you make. Just as one bad apple can spoil a bushel full, one splash of color can brighten the entire canvas of daily living. Chose to commit random acts of kindness, to be the solution not the problem.

Enchantment - the knowledge, the chants, the invocations, the songs, the words, the movements, the helpers, the inspirations, the insights, the wisdom, the guidance to weave new destiny patternings of upliftment, healing, wholeness, and wellness that encircle the globe in an emotionally cleansing but heart warming catharsis. To surround everyone and everything in a safe secure cocoon of rainbow radiance that will initiate and spark the transformation process, changing the caterpillar into the butterfly, gifting our spirits with the ability to soar.

Endurance - the stamina, patience, fortitude, strength, and commitment to go the distance, to learn how to fish and then to pass on what you have learned to others, to be in this Uni-verse’s Unified Field of Dreams for the long haul, to accept with equanimity that growth is often gradual and can also sometimes be painful. Breathe through the discomfort of looking at the contents of the toilet bowl. Flush away the toxic debris with healing waters, then scrub the bowl with a bristle brush and some Comet. Just remember that soon you might have to repeat the process all over again but that does not mean that you are not moving forward and spiraling upward.

5. Evenness - the balance, the equilibrium to truly see things as they are not as we would like them to be and not as others would like to manipulate them to be, to really be able to serenely get IT in all IT’S pristine IS NESS, the which ness of the was, the solution to the puzzle, the easiest route to your destination, the whys and wherefores of the maze and labyrinth, but, to be able to do it all and perceive it all in a manner that is both constant and consistent.

So here’s a toast to Daring to Dream New Dreams for ourselves and all that we hold dear in the cherished chambers of our eternal star hearts .

Have A Glorious, Happy, Joyful, Merry, and Wondrous 2003,
the Year of Magickal Dreaming *****

Blessed BE,
Wishing New Dreams,
So Mote It BE

A Little Smaller Point Of View Dec 31st. at 8:43:25 pm EST

Marreau (Idaho, USA) Age: 24 - Email - Web

Where I cannot see the future and I have no visions to declare, I hope for much of the same as many people in our communities: peace, understanding, tolerance, love and all things along those lines. I sincerely believe that all humans are born with a strong sense of hope, and I have a high optimistic view that hope will prevail amongst us. I hope that I will become more knowledgeable and be able to pass on that knowledge to those around me. I hope I will learn tact to not offend those that may be offended by truths. I hope that people stop what they are doing, and really look around at what they have, what they are doing, who they are and what they are. I hope for truth.

I Am Woman Hear Me Bahhhhhh Jan 1st. at 4:00:52 pm EST

Stacey Michael (New Orleans) Age: 34 - Email - Web

Looking at the Chinese zodiac, the year of the sheep/ram is the year of the woman. This also qualifies as in feminine attributes in society, meaning little or no war, civil rights in race/sex/religion come to the forefront and Patriarchy submitting to those demands.

In the year (2002) of the Horse, the Boy’s have been out playing all night, but must come home now to answer for their roguery in (Feb. 2) 2003.

In Chinese culture, women born in the year of the sheep/ram are militant homemakers/mothers/wives and men born are wimpy/gay/momma-boys; either way the Chinese don’t consider that very good luck for the new born.

Given the current political climate of Nazi Patriarchy from all corners of government, this is a good sign that change is about to come 180. Link to More info related to this post -- HERE

2003,just Another Year Jan 1st. at 9:09:34 pm EST

Celestria (New Hampshire) Age: 36 - Email

Me personally,I don't get exicted at the idea of another new year.
I am not an optimist really so therefor my opinions about the new year is that nothing will change for the better,if fact,I see us going to war with Iraq AND N. Korea.
I also don't think that Bin Laden will be found anytime soon.

I just sense alot of negative things taking place mainly because that is all that is projected on my t.v. every freakin day! Then again,I could be wrong.

I See In 2003 Jan 2nd. at 2:10:46 pm EST

Artor Dreadstalker (Maine, USA) Age: 44 - Email

I fear for the future,we are beset by evil from within as well as from without. Our children embrace materialism, without considering the costs, and men of questionable sanity rule the planet.
I pray for us all.

Here Is A Realistic, If Somewhat Pessimistic, Scenario Jan 2nd. at 4:52:24 pm EST

Yet Another Prognostocator (New Richmond, WI) Age: 37 - Email

Ok, I can't be sure that everything I predict will happen in the order and at the times I predict them, but I suspect that is pretty close to a realistic assessment of the next year:

February, 2003: The United States invades Iraq from bases in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. At the same times, about 10,000 American peace activists are detained, as well as at least 10,000 Middle Eastern immigrants. The stock market shows an immediate 10% drop. There is surprisingly little protest at this in America, mostly because, for the first time, both the American media and the average American start to be really afraid. On the other hand, the Middle East goes berserk. Huge rallies turn violent in a number of countries, and the U.S. has to close several embassies, which are burned by enraged crowds. american relations with Europe enter deep chill. While it still exists on paper, NATO is now effectively dead. U.S. forces do well at first. Within 10 days of the start of the Operation (let's call it Operation Hammer ), American forces are on the outskirts of Baghdad. Then things start to go wrong. It takes an additional two weeks for the Americans to take Baghdad, and costs them 1000 men. When they do take the city, they find that Saddam has left. A number of eyes hotile to America watch this, and begin to draw up plans............

March, 2003: Saddam Hussein is captured, in Northern Iraq, by Kurds. Bush announces plans to try him, which triggers fresh outrage in the Middle East. Large contingents of U.S. forces are stationed in Iraq. The stock market begins to rally, and makes up its February losses, but the economy is still not good. A number of attacks in Afghanistan show that the war there is not yet over.

May, 2003: More detentions in America, this time gay activists and general leftist types. Bush begins to push exclusion of Pagans from the military. Paksitani voters elect a radical Islamic party to control of Parliament. Mussharaf tries to dissolve parliament, but is unable to get the military behind him, is ousted, and flees the country. The new Pakistani government orders American troops to leave. Bush considers military action, but is forced to face the fact that he has too many troops already committed to Iraq, the Balkans, and Afghanistan. More riots in the Middle East. American business people begin leaving Middle Eastern countries in large numbers.

June, 2003: American troops leave Pakistan. This emboldens the Saudis, who are now more afraid of Islamists at home than of the Americans. They also order U.S. troops out. An attempted Islamic revolution breaks out in Egypt, but is put down with great bloodshed. The stock market falls at least 20%. The United States has now entered real deflation for the first time since the Great Depression. With unemployment high, and several international embarassments, Bush begins to suffer real losses in his poll numbers. Pagans excluded from the military.

July, 2003: More detentions, this time including Pagans and more general leftists. These are not a lot of people, just a few thousand in all, but include many community leaders. Even with detentions, there is large scale dissent in America for the first time since the Vietnam War. The stock market keeps falling. Sensing American weakness, North Korea demands a number of concessions which amount to blackmail. The United States refuses. Negotiations go on through August.

September, 2003: Bush shelves plans for mass-roundups of Pagans, atheists, gays, and Democrats, after being warned by the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The trial of Saddam Hussein begins, in New York. Mass-scale riots across Middle East, and in Indonesia. The demonstrations in Indonesia get out of control, and the country begins to fall apart. The Indonesian government requests American aid, but the overextended Americans cannot give any. Negotiations with North Korea break down. Iranian-sponsored, Shiite terrorists begin attacking American troops and civilians in southern Iraq.

October, 2003: Indonesia collapses. Several "Islamic Republics" spring up in the former Indonesia and are soon at war with each other, and well as hostile to the West. Other, non-Moslem islands establish governments of their own, which fight against the Islamic states. Millions of refugees flood neighboring countries. North Korea invades the South. Seoul destroyed by NK artiallary, tens of thousands killed. American and ROK forces retreat, but soon stabilize a front just north of Seoul. Frantic NK attacks fail to break the front, but do inflict massive casualties on both sides. Dow Jones average now below 5000, and falling. Unemployment above 10%, and that's just the official figure.

November, 2003: South Korean and American forces attack the North Koreans, and break through. The North Korean army falls back in disarray. Facing huge shortages of troops for Americans many, expanded military obligatons, Bush attampts to re-institute draft. Result is mass-scale protest, as millions of young people take to the streets. Several protests turn violent, and riots break out in American cities. Local declarations of martial law follow in several cities, and some thousands of protestors are detained. The North Koreans attampt to use a nuclear weapon, but give up on the idea when they are unable to get their bomb into working order. They choose chemical attacks instead, and large amounts of Sarin nerve gas are used on both soldiers and civilians. The United States responds by using a nuclear weapon to destroy the city of Pyongyang. AT LEAST 10 million die, and the North Korean government collapses. Germany and France break off relations with the United States, as a cold war begins between America and Europe. Mass-protests in Japan against the use of nuclear weapons turn violent. The Japanese government, however, is more afraid of North Korea than of America, and so stays loyal to Washington. The use of nuclear weapons produces panic on Wall Street, and the Dow falls to about 2500.

December, 2003: Now supplied by Pakistan with cheap, Chinese military hardware, guerillas in Afghanistan begin expanded attacks against American forces. These attacks gain little, but show that the war against Al-Qaeda continues. American and Souht Korean forces advance deep into North Korea, revealing that the North Korean government kept virtually its entire population in a sort of giant gulag system. The revelation of massive suffering, starvation, rampant torture and brainwashing, and so on, by the North Koreans, defuses some hostility against the United States abroad, but only some. The bitterness between the United States and Europe is now taking on a life of its own, and there is little that can be done to stop it. The Dow rises to something like 3000, but unemployment is now about 20%.

At the beginning of 2004, George W. Bush, in early 2003 with poplularity levels in the 60-70% range, is regarded by most Americans as somewhere between Herbert Hoover and Adolf Hitler. The use of nuclear weapons has won the war against North Korea, but has actually managed to make Kim Jong Il a popular hero among European intellectuals, a feat comparable to making spam popular among internet users. The wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Korea are still ongoing, though the one in Korea is almost over. Indonesia is a mess comparable to ex-Yugoslavia five years ago. Not-quite 100,000 Americans are in detention camps, and many of those have been abused and tortured. Most ominously for Dubya, the American military, which rather liked him in early 2003, is now seriously thinking of removing him from power by force, in order to save the country.

The events of 2004 will probably include the first successful military coup in American history, one ironically intended to restore democracy and end a group of draining wars. This will bring about what amounts to the Fall of the American Empire, as the United States turns its energy away from foreign adventures to affairs at home. The military may or may not release the detainees, but there will be no more detentions after the coup. Even the coup can do little to save the economy, however, or to mend fences with Europe. Whoever wins the election of 2004, you can be sure the coup leaders will insist on free elections, will face the worst crisis in American history since the Great Depression, or maybe the Civil War.

On the bright side, the departure of Dubya will kill the Religious Right as a political force, for good and all...................

Yet Another Prognostocator, You Are Not A Pessimist Jan 2nd. at 8:05:50 pm EST

lilith (lost angeles) Age: 33 - Email

you are a wild optimist. especially if you think sadaam hussein would EVER see trial in new york, much less within a few months of being captured. :)

the idea that the enemy of freedom and free expression and liberty and liberalism would show his hand blatantly enough to cause the complacent american public to do ANYTHING, much less riot, is also a tad on the up side...

i thought about this question again after my first post, and i have this one furthur thing to add. my four month-old neice came over for new years eve. the day before that my sister and her four year old daughter and four month-old son came over. i went out with my other neice-- she is ten. and i was thinking about all of these small children and what we owe them, and i took my neice to see the guy who is sitting in an oak tree in the santa clarita valley trying to save it from developers who could just go AROUND it if they werent so destructive and lazy, and the reason i took her there, beside the fact she wanted to see it, is that after my first post to this question and the thought of all of these little kids that i personally know, i thought it would be good for her to see someone DOING something. she cant always see what i do, and what i do is not always the kind of thing you want a young kid to be exposed to. but the guy in the tree was just exactly the thing both she and i needed to see right before the new year. and she's thinking of ways to plant an oak. so as little a thing as that seems to be when im feeling very bleak and posting grim things, i just want it here for the record that i DO try to find something to balance all of my doom and gloom.

but yr still a wild optimist, prognostocator.

Odd To Be Called An Optimist....... Jan 2nd. at 8:53:15 pm EST

Yet Another Prognosticator (New Richmond, WI) Age: 37 - Email

when my scenario includes a small-scale nuclear war, and 10 million dead. Those are Holocaust-level casualties, for all that the North Koreans "started it". Just wait for my predictions for 2004..........

Yet Another Prognostocator... Jan 2nd. at 9:17:26 pm EST

MoonOwl (Egypt Lake, USA) Age: 39 - Email

My Goddess, I hope you are wrong! Way wrong. You make me feel like an optimist! I guess that's a good thing:}

I think this will be my New Year's Resolution. Be more optimistic even if it kills me.

Thanks for the sobering thoughts.

Ra Ra Ree, it's 2003!! Make love not war in 2004!!!


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The Witches' Voice carries a 501(c)(3) certificate and a Federal Tax ID.

Mail Us: The Witches' Voice Inc., P.O. Box 341018, Tampa, Florida 33694-1018 U.S.A.