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Question of the Week: 59 - 9/11/2001

911 America: Talking Through The Terror...

Talking Through The Terror... And helping each other cope with the tragedies that struck at the very heart of the United States. The Witches Voice has opened up this forum in order that Pagans may express their thoughts on the terrorist attacks that took place in NYC and DC on September 11th. As the full realization of what happened and the toll numbers begin to come in, Americans have many challenges ahead.

What are your thoughts on these incidents? How are you feeling? Feel free to post any magickal workings or other support gatherings planned in your area.

WebNote 9/16/2001: Since we launched this on 911 this forum as become laced with powerful inspiration and critical information, feel free to use the search functions on your left to better define the info you are looking for. Search for your area, famous Pagans, key words etc. Also check Wren's Nest News for the latest news related to our community.

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Join Us 7pm Pacific Standard Time. Please Consider Sending Energy, Lighting A... Sep 11th. at 3:57:16 pm UTC

Barbara Whitney (Tacoma, Washington US) Age: 56


Join us 7pm Pacific Standard Time. Please consider sending energy, lighting a candle, or keeping our ritual in thoughts at this time. We will be using a very powerful blending of energies working so that the workings of all groups and individuals can join and become even more powerful.

We need to send energy to those who have departed, who are trapped and hospitalized, and their friends, families, and loved ones.

We need to envoke energy for our leaders that they may have the strength and intelligence to deal with this act of war.

We need energy ourselves so that we do not succumb to blind hate.

Bright Blessings
Lisa, Barbara, and Dana

Pass this message on to all you know!!!


I Absolutely Pitty The Idiots!!who Pulled This Horrified Stunt And Made... Sep 11th. at 3:57:36 pm UTC

Benjamin Bell (Garden Grove, California US) Age: 26 - Email


I absolutely pitty the idiots!!Who pulled this horrified stunt and made a huge world adjustment and whats to come in this healing recovery on this plane. In spell wise I cant do much cause my family doesnt know that I am a beginner in the witchcraft and believe me if I could help magickally I would with out a dought. But I will check with in what I can do in helping physically.. At least that I can do..


Watching The Events On Tv One Can Almost Become Numb. Almost. Although... Sep 11th. at 3:59:16 pm UTC

Cadra (Three rivers, Texas US) Age: 41


Watching the events on TV one can almost become numb. Almost. Although I live in Texas and have no friends or family in the areas attacked my heart hurts. As an Emt my thoughts are with the rescue workers and the impossoble job they are facing. Iam praying to the Lord and the Lady on behalf of the victims , the rescue workers, nurses and doctors. And hardest of all I am praying for the souls of those who did this horrific deed.


I Am, Of Course, Saddened To See The Wasted Lives Based On... Sep 11th. at 4:02:27 pm UTC

Shel (colorado springs) Age: 30 - Email


I am, of course, saddened to see the wasted lives based on a group of people who cannot grow up and deal with problems/issues in an intelligent manner.

But I am angry, and bloodthirsty too. and I must calmly assess my emotions and thoughts.

I cannot say this is not in the world's best interest. Sometimes it takes this hideous mass destruction to stop the world and remind the people of what's important. We are all subject to the energy of small minds, look at what Hitler accomplished. Every day we are nickel and dimed with a mugging here, child brutality there but it's so hard to get people to care unless it affects them directly. One person cannot hold back the tide but a multitude can.

The appalling tragedy that happened today is the opportunity for us as witches to direct the energy, to transform the power that has been generated to useful means but only as long as we 'stay on target' and remember what's at stake and what good can come of this and what we want accomplished. Please think about this as 9 pm eastern time comes for the vigil


We Need To Not Bow To The Hand Of The Terrorists. These... Sep 11th. at 4:04:18 pm UTC

Barbara Fisher (Columbia, Maryland US) Age: 35 - Email


We need to not bow to the hand of the terrorists. These actions were meant to cause chaos, terror and confusion, and was meant to bring the US to our knees. We should not, and shall not bow to the hand of cowards.

We need to stand with our heads high, and be strong, for our brothers and sisters who have been attacked in Washington and New York City. We need to do what we can: donate blood, give to relief funds, and keep calm. We need to pay attention to details, listen and think. Now is the time to keep our wits firmly about us, our feet on the ground, and our minds to survival.

We need to understand that what we are being told may not be the entire story, but we have to understand that the reasons for this are for national security. The first rule of military intelligence is not release any information to the general public which may be of use to your enemy. And since a number of the perpetrators of this act are likely to still be on US soil, this directive is even more important. Do not suspect conspiracies, if later, more information is released, which may be of a surprising nature. Such are the ways of war, and unfortunately, this may become war within the next forty-eight hours.

We need to remember the principles of our country. We need to remember that we stand by religious freedom, not only for Pagans, not only for Christians, or Jews, but also Muslims. Not every Muslim is an extremist. Not every person of Middle Eastern descent in the US is a terrorist, or is sympathetic to the terrorist cause. We need to remember that, when we see people on the streets who may be of Middle Eastern descent. The entirity of a culture, religion or ethnicity, is not guilty for the actions of a radical minority. We need to neither perpetuate hateful acts against these people, nor tolerate it from others.

If we take the hatred expressed in this attack, and pass it on to other innocents, we have descended to the level of the cowardly wretches who murdered thousands today. We need not stoop to that level. We are better than that, as a people, as a nation and as a religion.

Let us work in whatever way we can, or must, to put our country back together and refuse to have our principles of freedom and equality trammled by those who would use cowardly means to horrify us.

Walk with the Gods.


I Woke Up This Morning Thinking That Today Was Going To Be... Sep 11th. at 4:10:43 pm UTC

Nica (Orlando, Florida US) Age: 18 - Email


I woke up this morning thinking that today was going to be another boring college-filled day. Was I ever so wrong! After my World Religions class, I found myself hearing things such as bombing, plane crash, and other sorts of horrific things. Classes were cancelled and people were crying with frustration and sorrow. And then I saw the television and the message being sent all over the world.

Through this time of terror and extreme frustration, I found myself wondering what would cause a person to do something so extreme as to kill themselves and others around. But we can never know the reasons behind the terrible ordeal.

I extend my heartfelt sorrow to all the people who have lost loved ones in these tragedies: WTC, Pentagon, and the other sites hit. For those who have died, we will always remember you. Remember the Goddess and God will greet you in the afterlife.

I wish that words could explain what I feel about this tragedy...but they can't. I hope that whoever caused this tragedy is eternally reminded about the devastation that they caused.

May those who died and those that are injured be healed by the Goddess...
May those that have borne witness to these events be comforted...
and may those who help be blessed by the Goddess.

I am going to the blood bank to try to donate blood. Giving blood is a small but effective way of helping.

Goddess Bless.


I'm Utterly Shocked By What's Going On. There's Going To Be A... Sep 11th. at 4:13:10 pm UTC

Keith Hudgins (Atlanta, Georgia US) Age: 25 - Email


I'm utterly shocked by what's going on. There's going to be a Drum Circle tonight, Sep 11th, in the Atlanta area up in Alpharetta. More information is at my web site.

Thanks, guys, and my heart and much love goes out to the victims and their families.


There Is A Candle Burning On My Table, Carrying My Thoughts And... Sep 11th. at 4:13:39 pm UTC

Anerak (-) Age: 36


There is a candle burning on my table, carrying my thoughts and prayers to you in the United States. What a terrible attack against humankind! Let us join together in prayer - it is the time now that religious quarrels should be set aside and that we should build on what we have in common.

With love from
Anerak (a Christo-Pagan from Germany)


The World Trade Center Fell Down Today. Terrorists, As If It Comes... Sep 11th. at 4:15:18 pm UTC

Kathleen Brown (Troy (Albany), New York US) Age: 20 - Email


The World Trade Center fell down today. Terrorists, as if it comes as much of a shock. At the time that this was happening, I was sitting out on Library hill, looking at the beautiful day-moon, watching the maple leaves flutter in the cool breeze, thinking about how much of a beautiful day it is. The day, today, is still beautiful. ItŐs cool in the shade but warm in the sun, maple seeds, on their little helicopter wings, keep pelting me from above. The trees are beautiful and green, fluttering in the breeze and happily drinking last nightŐs rain out of the earth. Everything is alive and beautiful. And not even two hours away, thousands of people lay dead. The Goddess claims back her children.

Today the Goddess wears the cloak of Artemis the huntress. She hunts on some days and on others she nurtures and creates new life. While there is death and destruction in the manmade structures and buildings of New York City, the trees blow in cool breezes, the sun shines down warm upon my hands and upturned face, and the bumblebees happily slurp at the last of the summer roses. Today the Goddess Companion spoke of the warm embrace of the Mother and at the same time the powerful reign the Goddess holds over the dead as well. There has never been a more appropriate day for that entry, which I read at about 8:45 this morning.

I am sorry for the lives that were lost; it is tragic that the Mother has sacrificed lives, but we cannot question Her intentions, we must pray only for their peaceful journey into the Summerland, and for their entrance into the warm and gentle arms of the Mother who created all of us. We must not doubt Her wisdom, but place instead our trust into her hands.


Tonight, Tuesday 11 September, Circle Of The Goddess (cotg) Will Be Conducting... Sep 11th. at 4:18:00 pm UTC

Astarte (Santa Clara, California US) Age: 35


Tonight, Tuesday 11 September, Circle of The Goddess (COTG) will be conducting a ritual for the dead at 9:00 pm, Pacific Time.

We are organizing a COTG-wide prayer meditation, that I would like to extend through the weekend - perhaps in shifts. What I believe we need here is a shift in focus, from anger and rage, to one of healing. The United States needs all the help it can get in terms of healing and strength to find awareness within, from the Wiccans to the Fundamentalists - everyone. We all need to work together to SHIFT THE FOCUS.

Our website now has information about how to donate blood (http://www.dragonflycreative.com/cotgindex.html), and we introduced the idea of meditation and prayer but there must be more. We need to get our respective Circles together, to focus and send out a web of love and strength.

Please join us in combining efforts to raise awareness and send strength and healing to all in this nation.

Many blessings, Astarte, HPS, COTG

*****
Blessed Mother,
open Your light to those who have passed on today,
so violently, so suddenly,
and allow them to find You and Know that they are safe and warm.

Help them to help us create Awareness that will bring
strength, love and healing
to this world.
we are ripped apart by tragedy this day
and we must learn to join together to grow
rather than remain torn apart by hate and thoughts of anger and revenge.

We light candles today
to help us find focus
to help others
in their time of need
and to heal this earth
bringing the awareness needed
for love and strength and unity.

So mote it be, Ashe.

- Astarte


I Am Terrified For My Fellow Americans As Well As Deeply Saddened... Sep 11th. at 4:20:36 pm UTC

Morgan TigerLily (Dearborn, Michigan US) Age: 21


I am terrified for my fellow Americans as well as deeply saddened by this horrible event. I'm wondering what it is leading up too, and how in the future we will look back on it. Hopeing we can all work through this together...


Fritz And Wren, You Are Both Amazing. Your Constant Vigilance To The... Sep 11th. at 4:24:38 pm UTC

Kristine D. (Washington DC Metro Area, Virginia US) Age: 30


Fritz and Wren,
You are both amazing. Your constant vigilance to the needs of the entire pagan community is an inspiration to what community truely means. By offering a message board for the concerned to share their thoughts and words during a nationwide time of crisis is above and beyond anything I would could have imagined from a community web page. Thank you for doing everything you do with the WitchVox and creating such a connection for our pagan/spiritual traditions.

Bright Blessing to you both as well as all those who need help at this time.

I send this message to you directly as well as to the message board.

Kristine D.


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