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Question of the Week: 76 - 9/8/2002

America 911: One Year Later. What's Changed? Are we Safer?

September 11th, 2001 set in motion various changes in the way that people view the world. From personal tragedies to governmental policies to global military actions, many stories have emerged from that one fateful day. Has YOUR life changed since 9/11/01? How has the world changed? Are you feeling more or less secure these days? Do you think that 9/11 is too much the focus for current events/ policies or are we really living in a different world today? Will the 'war on terror' ever be over? Will you do something to commemorate this day or do you just wish that all of the hype would go away?

You can review the original posts from last year's 9/11 Perspectives at: Responses to 9/11

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How Long Have We Really Been At War? Sep 10th. at 1:13:22 pm UTC

Green bird (Alaska) Age: 37 - Email


Though I live in remote Alaska, far enough away you'd think, to be protected from the conflicts and confusions of urban life, I also was personally affected by last year's attack on America. My husband, along with scores of other hunters last fall, was out in the wilderness hunting for our food for the year when he found out about the attack. He was able to get out and get home to me all right, but many others were stuck in hunt camps or on remote beaches waiting for flight pickups or getting unexpected military jet escorts and forced landings on their way home. As a health care worker, my husband was and still is very worried about the threat of biological weapons and how we could prepare and protect ourselves and our tiny community against that threat. I have family in that live in NY city and work in Manhattan, luckily, they did not come to any harm other than having to deal with the reality of a war on American soils,in their backyards. America is beginning to realize that we have been at war long before Sept. 11, 2001, it has just has been conventiently hidden away on someone else's shores, in our corporate boardrooms and the back pages of the media reports.

I have read two excellent books this past year that I think are very relevant to this subject. Starhawk's: The Fifth Sacred Thing and Octavia Butler's: Earth Seed

We must heal ourselves from within before healing can begin from without.

Blessed Be


Perspectives Have Changed, But Nothing Else Has. Sep 10th. at 1:15:13 pm UTC

AshaLuna (Alberta, Canada) Age: 22 - Email


I was watching the news that morning, something I never do, my daughter
usually watches cartoons. But there we all were in front of the tv, my husband
was almost on his way to work, when our regular Edmontonian morning show was
interrupted. And as horrifying as we were, I was not surprised. There are many
here in Canada who hate the States, not the people themselves, just the
government. The biggest reason being that we feel we are being inculturized
we are slowly losing what makes us Canadians, and becoming Americans.
What sickens me most is all the crappy programing I see on tv. I mean
Survivor? Isn't life hard anough that we need to make such a show? Oh and
My latest favorites, the playboy contest show and the Anna Nicole show!!!
ARE YOU SERIOUS?!? Those are perfect examples how ridiculous and decrepit
America is getting. Wasn't 9/11 supposed to make us more connected to
reality? I'm all for patriotism, being proud of your own country is great
and there's not another country prouder then the States. BUT you have to
know when it's appropriate and when you deserve what you get. DO NOT GET
ME WRONG! NO INNOCENT LIFE DESERVES TO BE SNUFFED OUT! I grieve for the
lives lost that day, but my grief is greater for those who died over the
years over there in the Middle East. And don't you realize that people are
still dying, are still tortured, that children are taken way from their
homes and brainwashed into blowing up themselves everyday? That mothers
are terrified of never seeing their children live past the age of 17,
afraid of having children at all? Did you know that women on both sides
of the conflict have joined forces? That they have already appealed for
peace and gone ton the UN but have been ignored?

This shameful war is extending, and how far will it go? Sometimes I wonder
if it wasn't all planned by America's leaders. Some believe they are trying
to infiltrate themselves into the Middle East to take control of the oil and
it's riches. This war is more conplex and multifaceted than a great number
of people don't seem to get. I believe the leaders of this world are all
trying to blind us, the people, so that they can do as they well please,
including using us whithout our realizing and committing crimes against
humanity to get the power they seek so damn desperately.

Yes I fear, but not for myself, I fear for my child and all the children
of this world. What future are we giving them? Violence has never ever been
an answer to anything. It has always lead to more hatred and the creation
of other wounds that 'need' to be avenged. Understanding, compassion are
the only weapons that will lead us to a better future.

Now that 9/11 has forced us out of our bubble, let's look at everyone
that suffers besides ourselves. This has to end, and the way is NOT
through our leaders, but through the people, there is no greater power,
and they know this.


Us Vs. Them Sep 10th. at 2:51:23 pm UTC

Moonshadoe/Susan (Nevada, USA) Age: 42 - Email


We were naive when 9/11 happened - no doubt about it. We felt safe; I heard people around me say that other countries were so afraid of the USA that no one would dare attack us. I thought that was a dangerous thought even then - and my feelings haven't changed. Now that we have been attacked, that particular naivete is pretty much gone. It has been replaced by another, and in my mind, a more dangerous and insidious one: the idea that increased "security measures" laid on with a heavy military hand, both at home and abroad, will solve our problems, allay our fears, and make the world a safer place from all those who act, think, talk and look different. The "Us vs. Them" mentality. Will this solve anything though, really? What about homegrown terrorism - Oklahoma wasn't caused by foreign terrorists. Maybe it's time we realized that the Them is Us. We don't have any more of a handle on how to take care of other people's problems than anyone else, and we need to take ourselves out of other people's business and tend to our own. We are Them and They are Us. *sigh* Well, I can always dream, can't I?
May the Lady and Lord enfold us all in Their arms; For we are all Their children.
BB, Moonshadoe


It Was Time We Woke Up Sep 10th. at 3:07:42 pm UTC

Jade November (Duncan, Oklahoma) Age: 15 - Email


Goddess, what hasn't changed since 9/11? Not just American's were affected by this either, but the entire "civilized" world. Have things changed for the good or bad? Both I think. Yes people are, in areas such as New York, a little bit more patient with eachother, but not with the "enemy". The thing that saddens me most, besides the obvious loss, is the hatred you hear of toward people of the muslim faith by those who lost someone that day. In no way am I undermining their loss, whatsoever, merely asking..Does discriminating against the entire race make you any better than them? There's no way to replace what those families, and this nation, lost, but is prejudice the best way to recover?

Again, my intentions are by no means to undermine the loss suffered, but to point out some of the losses AND gains. America, in my opinion, needed to wake up. We needed to realize that there is a world far more cruel than that in which we live beyond the coasts, and the people that suffer daily what we've merely had a taste of, should no longer be neglected. Am I supporting or condoning the acts of September 11? Absolutely not! But America had become far too arrogent for her own good, in my opinion. I completely support the war on terrorism waged by our country, and couldn't be more proud to be an American, but if we allow ourselves to go overboard with this, as is enevitable at this rate, we'll be no better than they are. We'll be the ultimate hypocrites.

Therefore, my proposal is that all Americans and people of other nations learn from this, and for once, prevent history from repeating itself.

(Pardon my poor spelling. :D)
Blessed Be,
Jade November


Candles In The Wind Sep 10th. at 3:39:58 pm UTC

Kym (Altamonte Springs, Florida) Age: 25 - Email


One of my favorite songs is "Candle in the Wind" by Elton John. The tragic events of a year ago made me feel like we are all candles in the winds, not knowing where to turn when it rains. My eyes still tear up when I think about the events of that day. My sister, Katherine, works in the section of the Pentagon where the plane stuck. She wasn't at work that day and so my family was spared, but the tied up phones lines prevented us from knowing that for hours. My other sister, Tish, also works in D.C. and travels through the Pentagon Metro station on a daily basis. The very thought that I could have lost them both that day still upset me. And reminds me that we never has a much time as we would like with those that we love. September 11 has changed my life, but it does not terrified me, becuase I refuse to let the terroist win. I will not live in fear. This September 11, I will light a white candle in memory of those that die that day and those that have died protecting our freedoms.

I am proud to be an American, but September 11 did not create that pride it serve to show me how precious life is and swiftly our lives can come to an end. Even with my love of country, I do not believe in the war on terrorism when it serves to take the freedoms that Americans have fought and died for away. I can not support a war that takes aim a individuals on nonsensical whims. Which is why I intend to vote today and why I am writing to let my representative know where I stand on todays issues. I may be a candle in wind, but I intend to burn as brightly as I can before wind and rain come and find me.

Blessed Be and Thank you,

Kym


Has The World Really Changed Since 9/11/01 Sep 10th. at 4:55:25 pm UTC

Stephen M. Schneider (Reynoldsburg, Ohio) Age: 34 - Email


Has the world really changed or has the American people become more aware of the other nations out there. I thought it was a time for Americans to wake up and be American. Things of tradition were going to the wayside before September 11, 2001, like showing the singing of the Star Spangled on
TV before a sporting event. We were too worried about what we were going to do next to realize our responsibility to our country. Responsibility for our country's well being is placed on the shoulders of every US citzen whether they like it or not. That is what our country is all about. It's a shame that it took an event such as 9/11 to open everyones eyes to whom they really are and why.


Responsibility Sep 10th. at 5:47:23 pm UTC

rain dancer (the united kingdom) Age: 16 - Email


our responsiblities are not just to our own people.as witches we should understand that our race sex age and nationality, does not detrmine who we are loyal too. how can we expect to progress toward world peace and equality when we concetrate our loyalty only on our own countries and way of life. of course acts of violence and cruelty are utterly intolerable.but europe and america cannot proclaim themselves rulers of the world and believe me thats exactly what they have done,and then be as irresponsible as they have been,in the ways of using aid to the 3rd world as bribary and imposing our way on other cultures purley to make money,without expecting to be resented,alot of people resent the americans,for there insuler irresponsable approach, to worl politics, im not critisizing americans them selvs but the american goverment,who as most people know is controled by,meaga corporations,im just flipping the other side of the coin, the loss of life pain and suffering and general misery created by the 9/11 is intolerable,but the unimaginable suffring imopsed on third world peoples as a result of western foreign policies is also unacceptable.
brightest blessings and healing to all those who mourn loved ones as a result of 9/11 and hope to all those in less fortunate parts of the world, may the tables balance out one day, and may the earth our mother, remain intact to see that day.
blessed be ,
rain dancer


What I Think. Sep 10th. at 6:01:26 pm UTC

Mellynda Ravenstar (California) Age: 24 - Email


I think swe've gotten safer, but the prejudice against Muslims has gotten even worse ince then. I'm not a Muslim, but I'm friends with a couple of them, and I worry about them all the time.


Let's Look At It Sensibly Sep 10th. at 6:37:15 pm UTC

Molly Browne (Washington State) Age: 17 - Email


While I mean no disrespect to the victims of the 9/11 attacks, I do not agree with our current course of action. As someone who has traveled to other countries and studies political history as a bit of a hobby, (I know, I'm a nerd) my current impression of the United States is that of a bully going "Please hit me. C'mon, right here, I'm open! ...He hit me! *machine gun fire, bombs, dropping a 3-ton anvil on the other guy's head* Whee! Die! Fight, fight... He started it!"

Firstly, America has been meddling in the Middle East's affair for decades, giving weapons and money to Israel (whom everyone else there hates, because they are booting out the Arabs), and then we expecting that they won't retaliate in any way. We try to tell tham how to run their countries and then act surprised when they don't like us. They didn't attack us because they were jealous, or they thought to strike at the "shining example of democracy" (there are alot of countries more democratic than us) They attacked to try and tell us to stop sticking out noses in what they consider their business.

Secondly, America was wide open for an attack. The airport security was a joke. I know this, because I have traveled on over 15 airplanes to 4 different countries, and America had by far the weakest standards. Japan, Russia, Taiwan, all much higher security, and much less reason to expect attack. How many children died because of American embargos on food and medicine? I'm not saying tha America is a monster, just that we have done many things to many countries that have made a whole lot of enemies. When you throw a snowball at someone, you run, hide behind a fort or have a whole lot more snowballs ready in case the other person throws back, you don't stay in the open and take off your waterproof coat while saying "I got you good!" unless you are begging for a fight. And remeber Osama bin Ladin? My brother is a retired SEAL and he and his special-op friends all say that the American special forces had Osama under observation before 9/11, but every time they had a chance to take him out they would recieve an 'abort' order. Aparently, the government didn't think he was a big enough threat.

Thirdly, this Saddam thing? What proof do we have? Remember, it was the AMERICANS who let him remain in power when the rest of our allies were screaming for blood. As for his refusal to co-operate with the U.N. - who just refused to let our soldiers be tried in international court for war crimes? Who has invaded (or sent troops to)countries when the U.N. has specificly said don't? If you bother to check, you'll find that America has flouted more of the U.N.'s decisions than ANY country. But of course, we're the good guys, so the 'normal' rules don't apply to us. Before, we had communism, to hate with a blind passion, then it petered out, so now we're going back to the Middle Ages for a reason to fight someone: Crusade! They're evil! "Let's go destroy these evil people!" Sound familiar? Since when has America cared about China's human rights infractions? Since they started being profitable trade partners? Come to think of it, before 9/11, did Bush show ANY sign of caring about ANY international Human Rights issues?

And lastly, the War on Terrorism? U.S. constitution clearly says that America may only go to war with a "Sovereign State." Terrorism is an IDEA an ACTION! Our constitution says, in black and white, no fighting ideas! This war against evil? Unless evil just became a Sovereign State and neglected to tell us, we can't do this! It's against the constitution, plain as day, simple as that.


The New War. Sep 10th. at 7:12:28 pm UTC

Aravan Windwalker (Maine) Age: 37 - Email


When the constitution was written and the rule about attacking only soverien states was made, noone
would have even considered attacking the way the terrorists did on 9/11.
When the Colonists first fought the British for independence, the very thought that they would hide behind rocks and trees and not stand in lines was considered radical and Guerrilla in warfare.
Whomever is behind these attacks, be it Saddam or not, made themselves targets by attacking. They didn't attack the government, or cause damage that would hurt like a military instillation or missle site, they attacked a civilian target, a center of many people. They intended this to go to us, the people of the U.S. not our government.
Granted, they attacked the Pentagone, but in retrospect, it was a drop in the bucket of what had already happened. As far as the plane intended to head for the White house... If they had wanted to get the president, they would have paid attention to his public appointment and had a plane to hit the school in Florida... This had nothing to do with the government... this had to do with being a cowardly group who have nothing better to do than cause damage to civilians. They are nothing but a bunch of Mass Murdering Maniacs.
But... as we can all see, they did not stop us, they did not hurt our spirit... in fact, all they did in the words of the Japanese Admiral after the attack on pearl harbor..."...we have awakened a sleeping giant and he is filled with rage." So to all who subscribe to the Terrorist Creed, You have brought this on yourselves and you will reap what you have sown.


Stop Blaming America Sep 10th. at 7:27:55 pm UTC

sapphire (Alameda) Age: 700 - Email


I'm tired of the politically correct rhetoric from citizens who did nothing before 9/11, nor after it it to prevent "America" from "doing a lot of bad things." "A lot of bad things" must mean U.S. foreign policy, although few are specific. To the people who say this, your whole life and lifestyle is dependent upon "all the bad things" America does or its foreign policy. Ready to change your whole lifestyle so that you aren't a hypocrit? Did most of you protesting U.S. foreign policy (or domestic) get out there and do anything about it? I doubt it. If you try to do anything about it, you'll find out that it is so much more complicated than American foreign policy and that there are mutual foreign (and very powerful) complicitors, glad to go along with our policies, (but not on the face of things)including Middle-Eastern governments, charities and businesses. America is just a yarn in the blanket of self-serving corruption and more scapegoated than solely to blame, with other foreign and wealthy governments among others, not taking any reponsibilty for going along with U.S. foreign policy.

Are you ready to completly upheave your life for a change in U.S. foreign policy? Because that is what it would require. From the shoes on your feet, made in Taiwan, to the car you drive to the fruit from Chile that you eat everyday. Rethink the labor issues involved in that comb you're using. were the workers from a maquilladora not able to go to the bathroom that day? Not to mention rethinking working for the man in your small town, the only place you can find work right now. Picketing as frequently as possible in front of the Capital or whereever else it's needed is going to require planning on your part. People are just blaming the U.S. because it's popular and they're uninformed. American foreign policy is flawed but we are a democracy and YOU must get out there and be heard and stop the mechanisms yourself if you truly believe you live in a democracy. Stop what you're doing and do something about the problem and embody empowerment on a personal and national level if you don't like American foreign policy.


Resurrection... Sep 10th. at 7:58:47 pm UTC

Aminata (Halifax) Age: 23 - Email


As some of you who have read my essay on this site, about spirit guides know, I am what could be termed a "Skyscraper whisperer".
I have always related to skyscrapers not only in terms of their physical forms, but their spirits within. Seeing the hideous spectacle of the Twin Towers wounded as they were was sickening to me. Oddly enough, I had no tears at the time, but they came later. Seeing those gaping wounds, I wanted to do something, anything to make them whole again.
When South Tower fell, the feeling of grief emanating from its twin was simply awful.
During their short lives, those magnificent towers gave the gifts of wonder and inspiration to millions the world over, young and old alike. Now their physical forms are no more, although their spirits still watch over, waiting to see what we will do next, where we will go.
Those Towers gave me a great deal of inspiration over the years, and perhaps the only way to repay this is to fight for them now.
It saddens me to see the rebuilding effort in NYC..Politicians doing nothing but kiss up, pander, and waste huge amounts of time and money, achieving nothing.
Professional activists crawling out of the woodwork, with some of the most bizarre plans for urban renewal. Achitects who never liked the WTC from the beginning, trying to "re-imagine" the city in THIER image. It saddens me.
Just as Hiroshima, and so much of post WW1 and WWII europe rose phoenix-like from the ashes, just as my own city resurrected itself after its own meeting with disaster, so should NYC.
We can memorialize the dead and do the living proud at once, there is plenty of room there for both.
Rebuild and remember forever

Blessed be.


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