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Question of the Week: 56 - 8/27/2001

What Would You Like to See at The Voice?

By most measurements, TWV is a very successful site. YET, it is always in a constant state of change. This week we ask "What if YOU Ran the Witches' Voice - What would you change? In fact, feel free to post ANY suggestions that you may have related to this web site, its look, feel, design, content or tone... We have literally hundreds of ideas but would love to hear yours. Why? Because TWV has been built on your suggestions since day one... It's time to ask again! Kindly, keep your suggestions constructive.

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Just A Couple Of Things: 1. White (or Light) Backgrounds With Dark... Aug 30th. at 3:38:47 pm UTC

JF (Austin, Texas US) Age: 25

Just a couple of things:

1. White (or light) backgrounds with dark text. Like many, I find dark backgrounds pretty jarring to read. I sometimes have to take a break while reading since my eyes begin to ache. I don't mind if the front splash page is black, but I'd prefer the rest to be lighter.

2. More group pictures - I love the pictures of people that are posted on the main splash page. Would it be possible to start archiving those somewhere (and include ones that didn't make the splash page) so people could go look at them?

3. Navigation is sometimes tricky - and I'm not sure how to make it cleaner, but I think it could be done. Maybe have a site map that is linked to from every page?

4. More Neopagan perspectives besides Wicca and Witchcraft. I realize this is partially because you most often get Wiccan or Witch perspectives from readers and contributors. Also, though, part of this is the site name. I think it tends to make some Neopagans, who may *not* practice Witchcraft as part of their religion, feel like this site isn't really "theirs".

Obviously, the name won't change, but a larger effort to represent the other religions would be appreciated. Most particularly, on the "Neopagan Newbie" page which is heavily Wiccan/Witch oriented, and often lumps people into Wiccan, Witch, or "other" categories. Perhaps be a bit more specific about the "other" categories? I'd love to see FAQs for some of the specific religions other Neopaganism - I know, for example, that FAQs on Asatru and Druidry can be pretty easily found. Depending on whether you consider Reconstructionist religions to be Neopagans, there are a good number of FAQs about them, too. At the very least, include a prominent link to the "Trad Profiles..." from the Neopagan basics page.

I guess that's it for now. Like some others, I don't particularly care about the "Cats" page, but I don't think that removing it would magically produce more articles. :)

Hope that helps,

I Agree With Many Others...the Dark Backgrounds Are Sometimes Difficult For... Aug 30th. at 4:56:36 pm UTC

juniper (rochester, New York US) Age: 45 - Email

I agree with many others...the dark backgrounds are sometimes difficult for me to read.

Otherwise...this is one of the best sites I visit. I surf in at least once a day and I especially enjoy the "Wren's Nest" for it's Pagan perspective on the news.

As a reference library clerk I often recommend your site to patrons looking for more information on paganism and witchcraft. After many years of dealing with the frustration of missing books, it's a blessing to have reliable available information right here.

Keep up the good work, your efforts are well appreciated!

To Be Honest, Nothing. I Might Not Always Agree With Viewpoints Expressed... Aug 30th. at 8:57:04 pm UTC

John (Pietermaritzburg, South Africa) Age: 27 - Email

To be honest, nothing. I might not always agree with viewpoints expressed at witchvox but i don't see anything wrong with the way it is run. I suppose the best i could say is keep adding on more info and improving the service.

Hi Folks : First Off You Guys Are Already Doing Such A Great... Aug 30th. at 9:01:27 pm UTC

David Crocker (Dawsonville, Georgia US) Age: 43 - Email

Hi folks :
First off you guys are already doing such a great job It is really hard to think of changes that would actually be good ones. I would like to see mabee a photo album comprising of all the cover shots you`ve had. Mabee getting a regular spot on PBS would be nice y`know kinda like "The Fritz and Wren News Hour" or should that be Wren and Fritz hmmm.... anyway you get the idea . well those are my thoughts on the matter .
Bye now and keep up the Great work

Well... First Off More Truth In What The Two Say. Wren States... Aug 31st. at 12:09:43 am UTC

Tracy (White Plains, New York US) Age: 22

Well... First off more truth in what the two say. Wren states in the feature section for Aug.27- Sept.3rd "Wren was a very happy witch" And then some where else cannot find it but no its true, Wren says something like I am not a witch. In Homepage 7/16/2001 it is to much of a photo gallery of Wren. That serves no purpose but to serve up personality and offers nothing for witchcraft. In the feature section for Aug.27- Sept.3rd under Secrets Of Inner Circle click on click on here. Elizabeth Barrette talks about how to set up a pagan group, not enough meat for a toy doll to feed on. You would need hundreds of ideas in detail about how to do it like study guides, legal aspects etc. Provide a link at side or bottom for online wicca course short and long version. Just because you can find one searching people aren't doing that. In the sea of links they never open up door. Will you see when Isis plays, and rages through the maze.

I Would Like To Change The Look. There Should Be Lots More... Aug 31st. at 8:11:13 am UTC

Reetta Pirinen (siilinjarvi) Age: 15 - Email

I would like to change the look. There should be lots more colours, and things that make wicca/pagan-pages look like wicca/pagan-pages; animals, symbols and flowers. But not too much! they look nice as bullets, backgrounnds....
Thenx u have great sites!!

Merry Meet Wren And Fritz- If I Ran The Witches Voice, I... Aug 31st. at 12:00:40 pm UTC

barry aka skyeyes (homewood , Illinois US) Age: 43 - Email

merry meet wren and fritz- if i ran the witches voice, i would change nothing, unless a majority of useres and visitors requested it. i would leave the present set up as it is, and keep it going until visitor input from enough members, requested it. this is the community's page, and there would be no changes unless the comminuty wanted it. i would be the caretaker of our webpage. the international community. this is our vital link to each other. granted; changing with time time is a neccesary thing. but i would would maintain the current standing of the voice as it is in any case.


Hello There :) First I Would Like To Say That Witches' Voice Is... Aug 31st. at 1:19:17 pm UTC

Leimu (orivesi, Finland) Age: 16 - Email

Hello there :) First I would like to say that Witches' voice is indeed a wonderful site - in my opinion best of the world! I especially like the look, as it's conservative (so you can view the pages at work withoyut your boss asking any questions), doesn't take long to load, and still is very beautiful and "pagan" in nature (mostly thanks to the pen6tacle graphics)...
What I would change - I would add a book reviews section, where people could post reviews of books, Amazon style. I would also add a witchcraft course or two, of different traditions - I'm sure there are some people willing to write/publish one, and thousands of people seeking for them!
I would also add chat pages. There should be more than one chat room, though, because there are so many visitors... but I'm sure the chat rooms would be highly popular, and not much trouble!
I love your wonderful work, thanks for it!

I Think I Would A Page With Basic Information For Beginners Or... Aug 31st. at 3:10:03 pm UTC

Jessica Gunter (Watertown, New York US) Age: 17 - Email

I think I would a page with basic information for beginners or people just curious in learning about it. I my self am a beginner and I've found myself jumping from page to page trying to learn what could be put on one page as an introduction. I know there are a lot of young people becoming interested in wicca and most of us dont know the the terms you use in certain titles. Perhaps adding a glossary of terms for us new guys could help in our learning. I personally have found it difficult, in general, learning about wicca due to lack of basic information for those interested in just learning more. I'm sure that with a beginneres guide more young people would become interested, perhaps making the world a better place for the future.

Well, First I'd Definatly Get Rid Of The Black Background. White With... Aug 31st. at 9:41:38 pm UTC

L.G (OKC, Oklahoma US) Age: 26 - Email

Well, first I'd definatly get rid of the black background. White with black text is easiest to read.

The week's features page could be broken down, for me it is a hassle to scoll down to find things of interest. Wren's Nest would be nixed or at least moved to her own page. I know some people enjoy it, but the way she writes, refering to herself in the third person is annoying. It's very Bob Dole.

Better navigation, and a more constistant look on all the pages. Links with underlines under them.

Obits, yes, those people will be missed, but I think they belong on a seperate page. I didn't know those people have never heard of them, but obviously you did. This makes me wonder who you have to know to get your picture/name on the pages.

The page hits, page counts, raw counts, I have no idea what those are and don't care, can you say 'hit slut' I also don't care how about how many emails were sent out, how many returned or how many removal requests were done. Yes, you do a wonderful job keeping the place free of dead links and it isn't a small job but when I clean my house, I don't point out every little nook and crannie that I dusted to everyone who walks in the door.

Why just cats? It's like you're encouaging the stereotype that witches have cats. I don't, my landlord says no. I don't like cats even. How about a general pets page broken down into dogs, cats, birds, snakes and exotics?

Traditions have to be 'established' to be featured on the traditions pages. I'm a solitary and would like to read about other solitaries experiences. Maybe recipes they use for Beltaine or a simple ritual of thanksgiving. Or child's craft that is enjoyed at Yule. Just some fresh ideas. Nothing long and involved but don't exclude someone because their tradition is just a group of friends under the full moon or they don't have one at all. I get enough exclusion in the real world, thank you very much.

Rereading this I realize I may sound mean and nasty, but a few days before you posted this question I was looking at my pagan bookmarks and seriously considered removing The Witches Voice from it because of the things I listed above. I get the impression that Fritz and Wren have almost a loathing to turn over other parts of the site to other people. As a result I see a stagnation within these pages. Yes, it's a huge site but it won't implode if someone else takes over a bit of it. Again, I don't mean to be nasty or unconstrucive.

Thanks For All Your Work! Here Are My Suggestions. 1. I Think... Aug 31st. at 10:56:33 pm UTC

Nicole (SF Bay Area, California US) Age: 26

Thanks for all your work! Here are my suggestions.

1. I think the site needs some reorganization. You have so much info that it can be hard to locate things. Maybe how Yahoo or Google have it set up?

2. I agree with the white on black scheme not being eye friendly. White backgrounds can be kind of harsh, so I think beige would be great!

3. Wren, leave your nest and rants alone! I love them!

4. I would actually like to see MORE articles, essays and editorials. I like what Utne Reader does--they compile articles around a theme from a variety of magazines. I don't have the money or time to keep up on all the pagan media, so something central would be nice.

5. Please archive the photos. I love seeing pics of the community. Actually, something like the cat pages for community pics would be wonderful.

6. More trad info please! FAQs on lots of trads/paths would be useful.

7. I'd use a chatroom. Especially if meeting times were set up around specific issues, holidays, trads, etc.

Again, thanks for all that you do!

Hmmm - Okay.... What Would I Do? Maybe... A Little Better Organized, It... Sep 1st. at 8:21:51 pm UTC

Artemis KnightStorm (Wellington, New Zealand) Age: 13 - Email

Hmmm - okay.... what would I do?
Maybe... a little better organized, It is kind of fun searching for stuff like a maze but sometimes when I'm in a hurry it would be eaisier if I could find what I want faster - actually now that I think of it, instead of doing a massive reorganisation, why don't you guys just set up a site map?
Okay - um I thought the cat photo page was an excelent Idea, I love it - If you're so backlogged with photo's wouldn't it be a good idea to make a photo page for all those other photo's that you're bogged down with.
hmmm what else? I'd love to learn about other people's traditions - like one of the other posts said, it would be really nice if we could get some FAQ's up.
Several people have said Chatrooms - And I compleatly agree, chatrooms and/or a message board would be great, expecially if you had scheduled chats.
(and if you do have scheduled chats, remember to say what timezone your talking about and if possible put up what the time is in that zone so us world-wide witches can work out when they are for us - I've just had the experience so many times when mericans or people from the UK somehow expect the rest of the world to fit in with their timing.)
what else? *racks her brains for a few moments* um.... oh I know, some pages where people could feature their pagan artwork/writings would be great - seeing as you've already got the whole Pagan music thing going - Which I LOVE by the way.
Someone said to take Wrens nest out! Oh my! NEVER EVER DO THAT! The rants are inspiring - and besides - I realise this is a community site and all but wren does put a heck of a lot of her time into it - shouldn't she be allowed to rant on her own page? Leave them right where they are. Or else....grrrr
Um anything else? hmmm well it would be really cool if we could get some stuff about how other pagans manage with their careers and some discussions about pagan parenting. (Not that I really need the parenting thing just yet seeing as I'm only 13!) I'm sure people would be willing to write about how they've managed in the big wide world.
Okay I really can't think of much else...I love this site to bits! All the articles and essays are great.
Oh I know maybe the layout could be changed a little so you don't have to scroll down quite so much - maybe with a side bar like you have in most of the other sections.
Thats really all I can think of!

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