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Posted: Sep. 8, 2002
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Should Pagans Apply For Federal Funds?
Under the new U.S. ‘faith-based’ initiatives, religious groups cannot be denied federal money if they otherwise qualify for a social service program grant. Should Pagans go for a piece of that pie?
Do you think that an openly Pagan organization, all qualifications being met, would have a real chance at obtaining funding from the current administration?
What about the separation of church and state issue?
Federal funds and tax money going to religious organizations in order to provide social programs: A good idea or not?
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| Maybe... ||Jan 11th. at 9:45:52 pm UTC|
Maybe we should. I think this would be a great way to PUT A STOP to this thing. We need ask for the federal funds(and make sure that some of those fundies hear about it) and 1. if they refuse to give it to us then we have an excellent arguement to put a stop to it 2. if we DO get the federal funds, those fundies who heard about it would get all up in arms trying to prevent that from happening(so they might call off the religious fund deal altogether). Well,i think that by applying for the funds we might could get some sort of thing going against them(and maybe stopping them altogether?).
| Let The Christian Government Keep Its Money,we Need It Not ||Jan 12th. at 2:32:13 am UTC|
|Aurora (Middle Island,NY) ||Age: 48 - Email |
Yes,Blessed of the Goddess,we pagans of all sorts need not to bow down to those who hate us,and wish us and wish only our distruction. Ours is the spirit,yea,the streangh to endure,persiver,and flurish by our own efforts,and the blessings of the Goddess. Indeed,we should seek out those who are of our own belifes,and commit our moneyies to the building up of their businesses,the purchase of lands in to which we can fill with pagan communities,and bring about a glorious,peacefull,and purposefull force for good,and light,and balance in these United States,and Et Orbi. Together,we can turn the tide of the Hendonistic religions,and make our selfs respectfull in their eyes. Howevern, we should be causious to not lose our unique,and mysterious ways,in traid for this respecBlessed Be all of the Goddess,who ever they are
| Does It Really Make A Diffrence Who You Are? ||Jan 12th. at 10:57:16 am UTC|
|Lorie (Jackson) ||Age: 27 - Email |
I live down south and religion is not a faith it is how society lives here. "I do not know how may times co workers and friends have asked What church do you go to?" or how many times my boss has prayed at our staff meetings. I wish I could voice my opinion but I feel if I do I would get fired because I dont believe what they think I should belive. church & state ae not separated in the south. I have choosed which path to be on but I can not make every respect it. My family has total understanding and they think I have choosen the right path but try explaning that to a stranger.
Pagans should qualify for any grant just like other people. It should not matter what they belive. America was based on freedom of religion. So it should not matter.
| We Can Apply--but Will We Receive? ||Jan 12th. at 2:22:12 pm UTC|
|CloudWalker (Wisconsin) ||Age: 54 - Email |
I am a Pagan business owner that is in the process of asking for a business grant.
I am wondering which would be better --to say I am a woman or that I am a Pagan woman that owns a business? It seems that both would be a 'minority' and the Government is always saying they want to help the poor oppressed minorities!
I am just starting my business and any help would be a great help.
| Yes But It Won't Matter. ||Jan 12th. at 10:42:30 pm UTC|
|emmie (Tennessee) ||Age: 19 - Email |
Yes of course Pagans should be allowed and should get the loans. The problem is things just don't/won't happen like that. Alot of us and especially those who live in the bible belt live in fear admit your different and take the critisism and when we don't go and apply for funds we're due we suffer in return. In small towns everyone knows everything about everyone. I love who I am and what I stand for, but opening my mouth will get me nothing but scorn, sometimes its hard to not allow anger to take over when I hear someone whisper about me, somtimes its hard not to just buy a huge Pentacle covered flag and just fly it in my front yard proudly. I am proud of who I am but sometimes pride doesn't have to be shown. It's in my heart and in my soul look into my eyes and there you'll see it. There will be a day some day I hope where no-one has to live with the fear they will be harmed because they believe differently. I just wish we could truly have equal rights like other religions do.
| No ! No ! A Thousand Times No! ||Jan 13th. at 1:25:18 am UTC|
|Barena (St. Louis, Missouri) ||Age: 50 - Email |
I have worked in the social service field for many many Years. I am acqiunted with many witches who are also professionaly involved in providing direct service to the community in a variety of settings. Oftren, I have wondered if I should open an agency to benefit pagan families that are in need of practicla assistance with housing, food medical etc...or whose families have been causght up in the system ins=some adverse way. But I know from experience that once an organization or group accepts federal or state grant monies...immediately the political repercussions begin, the controls are set in place and the squeeze is on to make them comform to trends that are currently endorsed by the funding sources. I say we sell out the Goddess, put our rare and precious freedoms and practices as pagans at risk. We are a mystery religion. Let's stay that way. A privately funded social service agency geared toward the pagan community and pagan parenting would be more on the mark. Contact me if anyone is interested. Any pagan from Sabbatsmeet in St. Louis can identify me. Blessed be.
| If You Can ... ||Jan 13th. at 1:30:42 am UTC|
|magus jinx (washington state) ||Age: 47 - Email |
I think that if a person or group needs and can qualify for assistance then they deserve to recieve it. Unfortunately that does not always work in this world ... not only in this country ....
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