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Question of the Week: 10 - 10/9/2000

Money and the Craft

Money And The Craft is something that Pagans have wrestled with for decades. Are tarot readings and the like really a "part of the Wiccan religion"? Should we consider a "paid clergy"? What do YOU think about exchanging teaching, readings or clergy service for cash?

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I Think That The Power Given To You Is A Gift, And... Oct 14th. at 9:34:43 pm UTC

kelly (harrisburg, Pennsylvania US) Age: 14


I think that the power given to you is a gift, and you shouldn't charge for it, because soon the readings will not be to help others but for you to gain money, thus it loses it's magickal side.


Divination, Whether It Be Scrying, Dowsing, Or Tarot Reading Is All Part... Oct 14th. at 10:59:32 pm UTC

Mary K. Hornbeck (Nwe Paltz, New York US) Age: 38 - Email


Divination, whether it be scrying, dowsing, or tarot reading is all part of our religion. The Gods gave certain people the ability to prophcy(?). How they or we do it is of our own choosing.
Whether it is barter or cash for a service renderd there should always be a payment of some sort. A wise person once said "There is no such thing as a free lunch".


I Read Tarot. Today, A Friend Of Mine Found Out, And She... Oct 14th. at 11:01:47 pm UTC

RaeVynn Sands (Hoquiam, Washington US) Age: 40 - Email


I read Tarot. today, a friend of mine found out, and she asked me if I could do a reading for her. I told her I could. when she asked me what I charged, I told her that I would like for her to make a donation of whatever amount she thought fair to the local animal rescue shelter I volunteer at.

For me, I have no problem with someone accepting money for time/effort spent, but I personally would rather not "charge" for what I do.


I Do Not Think That It Is At All A Bad Idea... Oct 15th. at 2:17:59 pm UTC

Richard Cobb (Great Lakes, Illinois US) Age: 22 - Email


I do not think that it is at all a bad idea. mainly because we pay for all the rest of our education. like college and such. so its not like we are breaking any rules. and as long as someone benefits from the service then it cant be all that bad.


Given The Assumption That Wiccan Groups (covens) Are Supposed To Be Small... Oct 15th. at 3:04:24 pm UTC

Peter (Norfolk, Virginia US) Age: 37


Given the assumption that Wiccan groups (covens) are supposed to be small (dozen or so people) then there is no reason for paid clergy. Nor is there sufficient number of people to support somebody except for a token payment at best basis. Thirdly, the dynamics of small groups works against having money changing hands.

For Pagan non-Wiccan groups, paid clergy is a possiblity. Having a large group (congregation) of say 200 people warrents having at least one part time person.

I would expect a paid person to do a lot more than just lead rituals though. I'd expect them to be teachers who really know their material, and it would have to be a lot more than a re-hash of Cunningham or Farrar. I'd expect real academic type background in myth, history, etc.

I'd expect some sort of group event most days of the week. Twice monthly rituals plus Sabbats wouldn't be enough. Weekly lore nights, kids classes, etc would be normal.

Of course all of this would almost require an open membership policy. Accepting 20 or 30 new people a year would be normal, instead of the apparantly typical of zero or one or two members every year.


I Think That Exchanging Teaching, Readings *and* Clergy Service For Cash Is... Oct 15th. at 5:43:27 pm UTC

ScotLass (Monterey, California US) Age: 31


I think that exchanging teaching, readings *and* clergy service for cash is perfectly sensible, since the churches and schools do the same, by way of taxes and/or payments and/or offerings.

I believe also, that as in any other such enterprise, training and reaching a certain level of skill would be required.


I Do Not Charge For Tarot Readings. If I Were To Have... Oct 16th. at 1:03:58 pm UTC

Brigid Moonwater (Sunnyvale, California US) Age: 26


I do not charge for tarot readings. If I were to have a booth or something similar, I would have a jar labled Donations. I have only handfasted a couple once and I only charged them for supplies that were needed. I don't know about Tarot being a part of any religion at all. I think it and other divination tools are somewhat akin to witchcraft in that both are practiced separate from religion. Witchcraft and divination are not used by all Pagans and it's not only Pagans that practice them. Having a paid clergy would ruin the whole beauty of our religion, freedom of religious expression. We are far too diverse to a main clergy. I am much more partial to trading services. At one time I could not afford (I was very poor) my favorite soda, so I asked my student to give me soda in trade for teachings. I am pretty against charging for the craft, but that is my own beliefs.


I Think The Answer, Would Be Yes. It Is Being Done Every... Oct 17th. at 11:38:59 pm UTC

Armait mercer (altus, Oklahoma US) Age: 49 - Email


I think the answer, would be yes.

It is being done every day, buy the many books you and i read, to incease our skills and knowledge, they just put theirs on paper, but are we not then paying?Do they not get payed for the book?When other people of the cloth, perform weddings, death rites, ect. it is not proper to give a gift? today that gift is usualy money. As for education, lets face it, it cost money, materials cost, I had to pay, so I could get my License, to be within the lawor really make a handfast binding. so I say the answer is YES!


All Communities And "religions" Support Their Clergy In Someway. In Turn The... Oct 19th. at 3:16:02 am UTC

Nadra Carmack (kent, Washington US) Age: 23 - Email


All communities and "religions" support their clergy in someway. In turn the clergy provides support to the community. Everyone has their own system. I don't think anyone in the pagan community lives in a small village where they all got together to build a home and provide meals for their local HP or shamman, ect. I look at it as if they are councilors in some way, and we all would be expected to pay them for their time. Our community is filled with many beautiful and talented individuals. Any kind of support they are given to spend more time practicing these talents enables them to become the closest thing to full time clergy that we need. I have only met one HP who was fortunate enough to be a full time HP to her coven (full time if you include what time she also had to dedicate to her family :}) and the results were a very large and well organized coven that provided for all those involved. She charged for tarot readings and astrological charts at phychic fairs and Reiki healing. She was a full time Witch and her coven was able to benefit from it. Yes, tarot readings, ect are a talent and I think if you can make a living off it: go for it. We wouldn't think someone is a sell out for making money off a musical talent. I'll get off my soap box now.


I Would Personaly Concider It Ok If The Person Just Gives You... Oct 19th. at 11:45:29 pm UTC

Brianax (Guaynabo, Puerto Rico US) Age: 19 - Email


I would personaly concider it ok if the person just gives you the money as a thank you not asking for it.


Its Bull Shit. I Believe That If You Want To Help Someone... Oct 22nd. at 5:39:59 pm UTC

bane (tucson, Arizona US) Age: 16 - Email


its bull shit. i believe that if you want to help someone or do something you liike to do you should do it and not have to charge money for it its called selling out and expoiting yourself and it needs to stop or people will soon realize taht they can learn to do this shit too and tehn you will be no where because what you wanted to do so badly has become a fling and now you dont want to practice any more so you all need to stop charging for your shit and just do it...that is if your not a sellout or some shit

laters

GIMP


I Once Had My "cards" Read...for Free...and It Was An... Oct 23rd. at 12:35:08 am UTC

Lanakat (Eastern Ohio, Ohio US) Age: 29 - Email


I once had my "cards" read...for free...and it was an incredible experience..
the information that came out was incredible and ACCURATE! ..but these days..too many people are trying to capitalize on our human need to know "more" and pray on the vulnerable..I want to know if there is someone out there who can read my cards for free again (it's been 12 years)..I think if you are truly gifted and can do this for a living..it is OK to charge a nominal fee...maybe just take donations...if you are good..people will support your craft


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