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Question of the Week: 73 - 12/31/2001

Do You Believe in Faeries?

Faeries, the Good Folk, the Sidhe and many more Otherworld beings of this type populate the folklore and tales of the world. So such beings exist? Did they ever? Are they an archetype, a memory of a long-lost people or simply that thing that we catch out of the corner of our eye? Have you ever had a Fae Encounter? Tell us your favorite 'faery tale' and point us to it if the source is on the net. And don't forget your pixie dust.

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For My Initiation, I Went West To Spend The Week With My... Dec 24th. at 10:36:13 am EST

RuneWolf (Reston, Virginia US) Age: 43 - Email


For my initiation, I went West to spend the week with my teacher and his partner at their new home. As dusk drew down on the day I arrived, my teacher said "Come - I want to show you something."

We went about half-way down the steep slope that bordered their front yard, to where a stand of trees began. There stood a low outcropping of whiteish rock, about 9 or 10 feet in diameter. The rock was cleft in the middle, the notch forming a rough V.

"What do you feel?" my teacher asked. I grounded, centered and opened myself. At first I was startled, and I had to move around the rock to convince myself that what I was feeling wasn't just imagination.

"Its open!" I said at last, looking wide-eyed at my teacher. "There's an opening on this side, but not on the other." My teacher, grinning like a fool, just nodded and laughed.

Later that night, as the Moon rose, I went and sat before that Doorway. The rising Moon was framed exactly in the V of the notched stone. As I sat, and opened myself again, I could hear, albeit distantly, the sound of horns...

Yes, I belive in the Aes Sidhe, the Fair Folk. They exist as surely as you or I, though they dwell, for the most part, in a different World, a different Reality. If you have any doubt, find a Doorway yourself, and listen there for the sound of their horns. Once you have heard that sound, you will doubt no more.


Disclaimer: It's A Bit Long, Sorry!) "she...thought About The Idea Of... Dec 24th. at 10:55:26 am EST

Gray Jay (Mount Pearl, Newfoundland CA) Age: 27


(Disclaimer: It's a bit long, sorry!)

"She...thought about the idea of conceptual reality, that things only existed because everyone agreed that they did. If one were the only person present, then it wouldn't take much of a forum to dictate what was real and what wasn't. Which was all very Zen, and didn't explain psychoses at all, except that maybe bag ladies who walked along the street talking to themselves really were talking to Elvis. Perhaps childern's invisible companions really did exist, fading only when the more emphatic adult consensus finally convinced the child that the friend wasn't-couldn't-be real. UFO's, tabloid headings, appearances of Virgin Mary...perhaps they could all be explained this way. Perhaps they were all part of faerie and, in their own way, they were all real. Or as real as they had to be."

- Eithnie - From "The Wild Wood" by Charles DeLint

Like the character who's thoughts are quoted above, most of us who perform magick have wrestled with the belief of things not readily accepted by mainstream society. Spells and faerie fall under this category. A belief in one doesn't necessarily mean belief in the other, but the world of faerie usually does play a big part in our belief system from the watchtower guardians to leaving offerings for gods, goddesses and other spirits. Even in my parents generation, walking out in the country in Newfoundland meant bringing a piece of bread with you to offer to anything fae that may cross your path. Different plants were used to ward off the evil and the unseen. We maybe aren't as quick to claim faeries as we do magick spells and encounters with various deities because of the stigma of madness that can come with it. Faery lore tells that if you venture into faeryland you will either come out mad or a poet. The story of Thomas the Rhymer (beautifully redone by Ellen Kushner a few years back) and Tam Lin (redone recently by Pamela Dean) warn of the dangers of being enticed by Faeries. Telling people you are a witch will not earn you the looks you get when you tell people you believe in Faeries. Tell enough people you believe in Faeries and they may start thinking you have a few screws loose. I think most of us believe in faeries, but some view it as a threat to their sanity and conformity and would never admit it. With the popularity of monster movies, vampire shows/movies, etc. one has to think that more people believe in the fae than anyone wants to admit and unfortunately more the unseelie side. As for me, I always share my snack with whatevers around when walking on the barrens or in the woods; belief in the little people begins with respect.

"so more than just the stories came over to Canada, " Eithnie speculated." I mean, if we're going to accept faerie as real, then why couldn't they have emigrated here just like the people did."


Back When I Lived In Springfield, Illinois (usa), My Best Friends There... Dec 24th. at 1:20:40 pm EST

John ("New Naumkeag", Ohio US) Age: 34 - Email


Back when I lived in Springfield, Illinois (USA), my best friends there, T. and her husband R., and I had a conversation that touched on this very subject. T. and I are Witches; R. is not but has a very open mind.

T. said she believed in fairies.

I said that I hadn't seen any, but who knows...

R., in a moment of delightful lucidity, said this. He said he believed everything comes down to science: human beings observing what is really going on. And he said that maybe people used to believe in fairies because, for example, to explain where morning dew on the grass came from. And then somebody sat outdoors all night and reported back then next day "I don't see no [bleepin'] fairies." And so the explanation for a phenomenon changed as people observed more of what really is going on.

R. swayed me with his opinion, which has become my opinion on a great many psychic and spiritual and mystical things. There are plenty of things that happen in Nature for which we don't (yet?) have a scientific explanation. And so we have stories to explain them. Some of those stories are just that, stories. Others have a kernel of truth. And a few of those stories are far more accurate than the modern era gives credit for.

Things are in Nature (and we are parts of Nature) and our observation of them or not has little bearing on their existence. But empiricism -exterior (science) and interior (mysticism) is the best way yet people have invented for describing what is out there and, more importantly perhaps, what is within.

So whether fairies or whatnot are what the stories say, or whether we are perceiving stuff as imperfectly as we can (like a blind man feeling sunshine on his skin), etc. - there *is* something really going on. And, even (especially?) with people gifted with a little extra sensory perception and understanding, the question often becomes what we *do* more than what we believe.

For, magic to the ignorant is simply knowledge to the wise. And belief and knowledge ultimately serve best when they lead to good hearts and good deeds. Truth is verb as well as a noun.

To the Formless but through Forms, we realize the Essence; in the World Between the World, we Craft our path of Truth.

(even fairies. )

Blessed Yule; Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

--John


Yes, The Faeries Do Exist, This Much Can Be Proven By Archaeological... Dec 24th. at 1:36:23 pm EST

Raven Prince (Fort Lauderdale, Florida US) Age: 20


yes, the faeries do exist, this much can be proven by archaeological research. okay, so, let me break it down to you: prior to the arrival of the invading Celtic/Norse peoples in Western Europe, the lands were inhabited by the 'elven' peoples, pigmy peoples (like the pigmy aboriginals of Australia) with so-called 'elven features', e.g. pointed ears, often but not always short of stature. the existence of these people can not be denied, they left the proof of their existence behind for archaeologists to uncover, and what they have uncovered is this: the pigmy peoples of Western Europe share as commonality with all other pigmy races the reputation for long lives, legendary warrior prowess, weapon building, architecture, and wielding great magick. like the aboriginals of Australia they built their dwellings into trees or hills, and like the aboriginals they wielded poisoned arrows and darts for battle. these peoples probably built the great megalithic structures such as Stonehenge. when the more technologically advanced races appeared in Western Europe these peoples adopted their clothing and dyes, prefering the greens and browns that enabled them to blend more easily into their environment (which is the origin of the legendary green-skinned faeries and brown-skinned wood nymphs). after being driven into a barren wasteland in the north, these peoples fought back against the invading Celts/Norsemen, going on a legendary campaign that very nearly brought down the Roman Empire, and earned them a reputation as otherworldly warriors, warriors renowned even among the already renowned warriors of the Celts and Norse. they were eventually defeated by the Romans, Celts, and Norse, but continued to inhabit some of the lands of Western Europe until new invaders arrived and literally drove a large segment of the elven peoples underground, such as the Tuatha De Danaan (Children of Danu), the 'picts'(from which we derive the word 'pixie') who were defeated in Ireland by the invading Spaniards (Milesians) and struck a deal diving the lands of Ireland in half between the surface and the subterranean substratum (which in the UK is vast enough to support underground populations, and did). however, those who were driven underground began to loot and plunder from the surface dwellers, who took up the tradition of making offerings to the 'little folk' in an arrangement that mirrored the Hopi Indians, who raised extra livestock so that another tribe, i believe it was the Nevajos but don't quote me on that, would not steal the livestock they themselves needed (apparently the other tribe believed God had made the Hopi to raise livestock for them). eventually of course the underground populations vanished, though i can't guarantee some may not have lived on in deep caverns far away from the surface to this day (an interesing fact to note is that it may be theoretically possible for the underground dwelling pigmy to have migrated under the surface all the way from Western Europe to the Appalachian Mountains, which used to be a part of the same mountain chain as that in western europe and is still connected by vast underground passageways, therefore the natives here in America may have encounted either these people in either their physical or ethereal forms). due to their legendary status among the other peoples of Western Europe, the elven people passed into folk lore and became renowned as the ancestors/gods/nature spirits of those people, thus shaping Celtic-Norse and Graeco-Roman society and spirituality.

now, that covers all the facts about the elven races that can be established by archaeological research. i go further to theorize that the elven races were indeed a different breed of the same race to which humans, elves, and dwarves (yes there is evidence the dwarf races existed once as well) all belong. i believe the elves exist in a higher state of consciousness than average humans, that they exist in a theta wave (dreamy) consciousness even when they grew to adulthood, unlike humans who usually move towards a more materially grounded consciousness as they grow. i speculate that that is why faeries guard and accompany young children, who all exist in theta wave consciousness.

my favorite 'fairy tale' is that of The Battle at Faerie Bridge. North and South England used to be separate warring kingdoms, and during one famous battle the North Kingdom pushed the South Kingdom back to Faerie Bridge, at which point the picts started shooting them with poison-tipped darts and arrows and they ran away screaming 'the little people are shooting at us!'


If There Are Faeries Among Us, They Don't Deem Me Worthy Of... Dec 24th. at 4:03:27 pm EST

Manda (Memphis, Tennessee US) Age: 21 - Email


If there are faeries among us, they don't deem me worthy of their attentions right now (unless, of course, they're the ones who move things while I'm not looking), but that doesn't stop me from believing. No one can deny that there is something there. Perhaps what our ancestors called "faeries" are nothing more than elementals or spirits. Perhaps they are exactly what I imagine them to be, a race unto themselves. I'll get back to you on that one once I talk them into showing themselves. :)
The most interesting definition of faeries I have ever heard is that they are from a different plane and able to pass through to ours at will.

"I think that people who can't believe in faeries are worth knowing" - Tori Amos


Yes If Angels Exist So Do Fairies. It's All In The Belief... Dec 24th. at 5:23:04 pm EST

Gina Yocum (Vista, California US) Age: 46


Yes if angels exist so do fairies. It's all in the belief


Hands Clapping, A Hint Of Pixie Dust In The Air* How Can... Dec 25th. at 12:35:58 am EST

Joe, aka "Tempest the Bad Pixie" (Davison, Michigan US) Age: 19 - Email


*hands clapping, a hint of pixie dust in the air*

How can I deny that Fey exist when I see one in the mirror every morning?

*smiles*

Not very glamyris at that time of the day, but still, thats not my point... anyway, yes I do!!!

"Strength and love is ours today
joined as one now
human and Fey"

Fritz, you couldn't be more wrong! There are many pagans and non-pagans alike awaking to the idea that fae magick (or fae blood, depending on who you question) runs through their spirits! And no small amount of credit goes to Lavedise and other sites of the like popping up more and more. (www.lavendise.com)

I must note that everytime I listen to the above song, my heart is lifted and I am reminded that human and Fey
are one!

May Faerie Bless!


Fritz, You Couldn't Be More Wrong!" Opps... My Mistake! I Meant To... Dec 25th. at 12:39:52 am EST

Joe, aka "Tempest the Bad Pixie" (Davison, Michigan US) Age: 19 - Email


"Fritz, you couldn't be more wrong!"

Opps... my mistake! I meant to type "right", not "wrong". Please forgive my bad typing! I've had a cold for the last few days and the medicine is making me quite drowsy.

Good night, and may Faerie bless!


I Have Always Thought That Faeries Were Real. I Don't Think That... Dec 25th. at 12:46:08 am EST

Karin (Seattle, Washington US) Age: 18


I have always thought that Faeries were real. I don't think that I have had a personal sighting or anything like that. I like to think that there are Faery Folk out there being helpful or not so helpful. I was born on June 21st. This I think has made it easyer for me to know that Faeries are real.

P.S. Don't forget to put out some cream for your Brownies. (the household Fay who do your chores at night)



Considering The Body Of Work Devoted To The Wee Folk (including Faeries... Dec 25th. at 1:00:34 pm EST

Quest Wulf (New York, New York US) Age: 38 - Email


Considering the body of work devoted to the wee folk (including Faeries), I have a hard time that they are not real. I look at the work of Wendy and Brian Froud and other artists and find both the Familiar and Unfamiliar.

Part of this comes from my paternal grandmother who told me many a tale of the wee folk and other Irish folk tales. Part of this comes from what I have learned and studied since.

They are there just in or out of the corner of your eye waiting to be recognized.

Quest Wulf


Pirilampa And Pirlimpimpim I Could Never Forget These Two Faeries That Showed... Dec 25th. at 7:58:25 pm EST

Fig (DeBary, Florida US) Age: 41 - Email


Pirilampa and Pirlimpimpim I could never forget these two Faeries that showed me my way back to the camp with radiant light, in the darkest of the nights, in the heart of the Amazon Rain Forest were a lived for two years.
Do I believe? Yes! I had a magic encounter with two of them!


Of Course I Believe In Them. In My Humble Opinion, They Are... Dec 25th. at 11:33:03 pm EST

Aedh Rua UiMhorrighu (New Richmond, Wisconsin US) Age: 36 - Email


Of course I believe in them.

In my humble opinion, they are nature spirits of a type less than the Gods as such, but still inhabiting the natural world. THey are of many types, some allied to the Gods, some hostile to the Gods, and many neutral, with their own agendas.

All of the Good Folk deserve respect, except for those truly hostile to the Gods and natural order. Luckily, the truly "evil" sort are quite rare, and mostly found in areas which have been spiritually or materially polluted.

So, unless you are sure that you live on a toxic waste dump, or in Dunwich, Mass (chuckle), then make some offerings to them!


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