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Question of the Week: 59 - 9/11/2001

911 America: Talking Through The Terror...

Talking Through The Terror... And helping each other cope with the tragedies that struck at the very heart of the United States. The Witches Voice has opened up this forum in order that Pagans may express their thoughts on the terrorist attacks that took place in NYC and DC on September 11th. As the full realization of what happened and the toll numbers begin to come in, Americans have many challenges ahead.

What are your thoughts on these incidents? How are you feeling? Feel free to post any magickal workings or other support gatherings planned in your area.

WebNote 9/16/2001: Since we launched this on 911 this forum as become laced with powerful inspiration and critical information, feel free to use the search functions on your left to better define the info you are looking for. Search for your area, famous Pagans, key words etc. Also check Wren's Nest News for the latest news related to our community.

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I, Too, Am Horrified By Tuesday's Tragedies. One Of The Basic Teaching... Sep 16th. at 2:07:48 pm UTC

Gwenn Nightstar (Spring Hill, Florida US) Age: 48 - Email


I, too, am horrified by Tuesday's tragedies. One of the basic teaching of Wicca is balance: male/female, light/dark, positive/negative, and, yes, good/evil. On Tuesday, we saw evil. We felt it and smelled it and tasted it. Evil exists. Evil will continue to exist. Unfortunately, as long as there are people in this world, evil will walk among us.

How do we deal with this? Prayers for the souls of those we have lost. Prayers for the souls of those we will lose. And prayers for the souls of the people who planned and perpetrated these monstrosities. May they come to see the error of their ways...I know they have doomed themselves to horrifying experiences in lives to come as a result of the threefold law. Like a stone thrown into a river, the ripples from these events will go on and on and on....

I make no excuses for these people - there are no excuses. But I need to try and at least attempt to understand their way of thinking. I came across an article from Cairo, stating that Bin Laden's hatred of the US and Israel grew after he heard stories of Palestinians who spoke to him of losing family, homes and friends in confrontations with Israel. He was seen to "sob several times" upon hearing these stories. How can this be? How can a man who has feelings be so monstrous toward innocent men, women and children? We in America can never understand what motivates people like this. I certainly cannot. I am saddened and frightened for the future of our world.

The Ancient Ones cried with us this week.....


The Two Towerssilver Wings Scythe Through The Skirling Smoke.storm-helmed Valkyries... Sep 16th. at 2:25:02 pm UTC

Elizabeth Barrette (Charleston, Illinois US) Age: 29 - Email


The Two Towers

Silver wings scythe through the skirling smoke.
Storm-helmed Valkyries circle slowly down
To pluck the valiant fallen from the fray.
The hooves of their battlesteeds strike sparks
From the soot-shattered stones in the street.
Grey-eyed goddessdaughters go grandly
Amidst the carnage in the capital
And the chaos in the trading-place.
Ash falls like feeble flakes of snow in September.
Explosions drown out the drumming of hoofbeats.
Smoke hides the sleek-limbed choosers of the slain.
Yet here and there through murk-mazed air a maiden
Appears for an instant astride her sterling steed,
Einherior riding double and triple behind her.
How rare in this day to find so rich a reaping as when
The second tower tumbled from cloud-touching height!
How bright the glimpse and glint of helm and spearhead
Splintering the brittle light of sun and flame!
How fine the feasting in valor-lit Valhalla this very eve
As heroes of old hand horns of mead to those new-come!


Dear Folks, As A Journalist And Leader In The Pagan/gaian Community... Sep 16th. at 2:26:56 pm UTC

Elizabeth Barrette (Charleston, Illinois US) Age: 29 - Email


Dear Folks,

As a journalist and leader in the Pagan/Gaian community, I wish to express my condolences for yesterday's tragic events. I condemn the cowardly acts of terrorism which have cost so many lives in New York and Washington, D.C. My prayers go out to those grieving today. Let us also honor the rescue personnel who have offered such valiant service, especially given the severe losses their forces suffered when the second tower of the World Trade Center exploded under attack. I encourage all followers of any Earth-based belief system to extend whatever prayers and magic you consider appropriate in this crisis, and to give whatever practical aid you can offer -- the Red Cross is calling for blood donations and of course money is always helpful -- as well. I also join the many people calling for justice in light of the deplorable crimes committed.

Many Pagan/Gaian churches and other organizations have hosted or soon plan to host special prayer meetings or rituals in response to this tragedy. As Samhain approaches, we have an opportunity to remember those who have died and sing them to their rest. Now is a time to reach across religious boundaries and respond not just as Wiccans or Americans but as human beings and citizens of the planet Earth. Let us send a message of solidarity and hope with which we can sustain one another through the difficult days to come. The words and deeds of a single person may be no more than a candle in the wind -- but one candle is enough to kindle a bonfire that can be seen for miles.

Bright Blessings,
Elizabeth Barrette
Managing Editor, PanGaia
September 12, 2001


Let Us Not Forget......those Who Have Fallen, Those Who Are Suffering... Sep 16th. at 2:29:35 pm UTC

TruBluGolde (Mt. Vernon, Missouri US) Age: 24 - Email


Let us not forget...
...those who have fallen, those who are suffering, those who are working to save others, those who are seeking justice and our Muslim and Middle Eastern friends and fellow citizens who are innocent of wrongdoing.


Although I Am Sickened And Angry Over The Events On 9/11... Sep 16th. at 2:49:58 pm UTC

Tracie Montgomery (Inkom, Idaho US) Age: 40 - Email


Although I am sickened and angry over the events on 9/11, I am of the opinion that this so called war if our President chooses to declare it, will only add to further the pain and suffering of more innocent people in this and other nations. The guilty parties should be systematically rounded up and held accountable for thier actions. No amount of carpet bombing another nation for personal gratification in the name of retribution will make this event less tragic. The problem as I see it is not a religious fanaticism as much as a political statement. We need to find these people and find out thier reasoning, if you can call it that. Without understanding the real motivation, we will be unable to prevent future attacks.

I fully believe what is frustrating to alot of folks is the fact the we are unable to point a finger at a clear and concise enemy. We may just have to think about this one a little bit instead of picking up a weapon to solve the problem.

Blessed Be


These Horrible Terror-act Left Us In Paralysis And Grief.the Streets Here... Sep 16th. at 3:29:49 pm UTC

Nightwing (Weilheim (Germany)) Age: 30 - Email


These horrible terror-act left us in paralysis and grief.
The streets here in germany are crowded with crying and
mourning people. No one of us can understand, how a religion
may be taken as a cause to kill innocent people. All our
thoughts are with these killed in the terror-act.

All Blessings and love for you all. May the goddess held
her hand over you.


America The Beautiful(the Original Version Of The First Verse Was Written... Sep 16th. at 3:47:33 pm UTC

Lady Garnet Redstone (Charlotte) Age: 44 - Email


America the Beautiful
(The original version of the first verse was written by Katharine Lee Bates. It was modified by Lady Garnet Redstone, High Priestess of the Sacred Oak Grove Coven in Charlotte, N.C. The second and third verses were written by Lady Garnet. This song was used by the Sacred Oak Grove in their healing ritual on 9-15-01.)

O beautiful, for spacious skies, for amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties, above the fruited plain!
America! America! (God/Goddess) shed (His/Her) grace on thee,
And crown thy good with (brotherhood/sisterhood) from sea to shining sea.

O beautiful, for freedom here, to worship our own way!
No matter what we call our God, together here we pray.
America! America! We send healing to you!
As we unite our energies, your spirit to renew!

O beautiful, this land we love, with people so diverse!
Unlike any other land on Earth, we put our freedom first!
America! America! May you always be free!
And may the whole world learn to love. So mote it be!


May The Goddess Take The Victims Of This Tragedy Into Her Arms... Sep 16th. at 4:00:16 pm UTC

Garnet (Saugus, Massachusetts US) Age: 51 - Email


May the Goddess take the victims of this tragedy into Her arms, and send solace to their family and friends.


The World Trade Center Is Attacked, And Strangely I Am Silent For... Sep 16th. at 4:18:16 pm UTC

~Morganne (Portland, Oregon US) Age: 28


The World Trade Center is attacked, and strangely I am silent for I am a woman with much to say. The Pentagon gets attacked, and strangely again I am silent, for no words could describe what I feel inside. Both towers come tumbling down like glass houses of the resulting fires, and strangely I am silent. Not because I heard the screams of the dying, not because I felt a shift in the veil, for I am not that dramatic. I have felt the touch of death too many times in my short life to count, to focus on the metaphysical aspect of this act of terror. In my short years I have comforted too many of the dying as they lay ready to traverse the path over into the Summerland.

I am silent, because I am a witch and that is the way I am. I dare to be silent while people pour out their anger and grief, those in pain need someone who will listen. I dare to be silent, for my anger is not meant to be sharedĐto inflame others and cause resulting harm. I dare to be silent, for my heart and will must be active. I must maintain equilibrium and balance no harm may come because of me, for as a witch I am practiced at manifesting my will. It is my chosen responsibility. Thus I maintain my silence except for this simple act.

I am here, listening. I am a witch, I am silent.


I Know That I Am Only Supposed To Comment Once But, An... Sep 16th. at 4:24:55 pm UTC

S. Garrison (Sacramento, California US) Age: 53


I know that I am only supposed to comment once but, an email from John made me come out of my own problems and remember what I am supposed to be practicing. This is what I aspire to do and I hope it helps somone else. I am going to bless a white balloon with red, white an blue crepe streamers and then release it on Tuesday morning (Sept 18) in rememberance of the all those who died and the volunteers who are helping in New York City. Thank you---R.BrWo.

At the Corner of Sunset & Sunrise

They say the hour is darkest before the dawn.
But oh, this night has gone on for so long.
When will the sun ever rise in my life?
Where is my star to lead me through the night?

The fire of life is in my soul.
The day breaks and the rooster crows.
My soul will be as the celestial sun,
The positive beams will shine in the morn. Written by S. Garrison(1st verse 1990 2nd verse 1999)


Blessings From Londonwe All Share Your Grief And Believe That Somehow... Sep 16th. at 4:32:22 pm UTC

earthspirit - jacquelyn adams (london, England UK) Age: 41 - Email


Blessings from London

We all share your grief and believe that somehow out of this there will be a new beginning for all of us.

On listening to the news, I hear the cries for war and would ask that all americans make themselves truly aware of other world polital events before making harsh choices about who should die. perhaps some of you are not aware of your country's political actions in other parts of the world.

The wisonm comes from learning about other people on this planet.

Hope and healing for us all!
earthspirit


I'm The Sort Of Person Who Often Writes What I'm Feeling, Trying... Sep 16th. at 5:03:59 pm UTC

Deb Barrand-Foisy (North Bay, Ontario CA) Age: 48 - Email


I'm the sort of person who often writes what I'm feeling, trying to cope with everyday life. Yet, here I am, finding I don't know how to put into words what I feel. I guess it's all been said anyway. I can only offer my deepest sympathies to all Americans, of all walks of life and all religions.
Words just don't seem to be able to describe the horror of what has happened. Yet it has also brought out the best in so many, with strength, heroics, courage and wisdom. We cannot change that which has happened, but let us focus our energies on the souls of those departed and gone on to Summerland. On those who are trying, as am I, to get past the anger and the ill will we might wish on the people who did this. Let us remember what religious persecution is and remember that only those involved in these actions should be held responsible for them. May they be brought to justice and my the Goddess guide all our steps in the trying times to come.
Blessings All, particularly our American friends, south of the border.
Damson


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