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Question of the Week: 59 - 9/11/2001

911 America: Talking Through The Terror...

Talking Through The Terror... And helping each other cope with the tragedies that struck at the very heart of the United States. The Witches Voice has opened up this forum in order that Pagans may express their thoughts on the terrorist attacks that took place in NYC and DC on September 11th. As the full realization of what happened and the toll numbers begin to come in, Americans have many challenges ahead.

What are your thoughts on these incidents? How are you feeling? Feel free to post any magickal workings or other support gatherings planned in your area.

WebNote 9/16/2001: Since we launched this on 911 this forum as become laced with powerful inspiration and critical information, feel free to use the search functions on your left to better define the info you are looking for. Search for your area, famous Pagans, key words etc. Also check Wren's Nest News for the latest news related to our community.

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Dear Folks, As A Journalist And Leader In The Pagan/gaian Community... Sep 16th. at 2:26:56 pm UTC

Elizabeth Barrette (Charleston, Illinois US) Age: 29 - Email


Dear Folks,

As a journalist and leader in the Pagan/Gaian community, I wish to express my condolences for yesterday's tragic events. I condemn the cowardly acts of terrorism which have cost so many lives in New York and Washington, D.C. My prayers go out to those grieving today. Let us also honor the rescue personnel who have offered such valiant service, especially given the severe losses their forces suffered when the second tower of the World Trade Center exploded under attack. I encourage all followers of any Earth-based belief system to extend whatever prayers and magic you consider appropriate in this crisis, and to give whatever practical aid you can offer -- the Red Cross is calling for blood donations and of course money is always helpful -- as well. I also join the many people calling for justice in light of the deplorable crimes committed.

Many Pagan/Gaian churches and other organizations have hosted or soon plan to host special prayer meetings or rituals in response to this tragedy. As Samhain approaches, we have an opportunity to remember those who have died and sing them to their rest. Now is a time to reach across religious boundaries and respond not just as Wiccans or Americans but as human beings and citizens of the planet Earth. Let us send a message of solidarity and hope with which we can sustain one another through the difficult days to come. The words and deeds of a single person may be no more than a candle in the wind -- but one candle is enough to kindle a bonfire that can be seen for miles.

Bright Blessings,
Elizabeth Barrette
Managing Editor, PanGaia
September 12, 2001


Let Us Not Forget......those Who Have Fallen, Those Who Are Suffering... Sep 16th. at 2:29:35 pm UTC

TruBluGolde (Mt. Vernon, Missouri US) Age: 24 - Email


Let us not forget...
...those who have fallen, those who are suffering, those who are working to save others, those who are seeking justice and our Muslim and Middle Eastern friends and fellow citizens who are innocent of wrongdoing.


Although I Am Sickened And Angry Over The Events On 9/11... Sep 16th. at 2:49:58 pm UTC

Tracie Montgomery (Inkom, Idaho US) Age: 40 - Email


Although I am sickened and angry over the events on 9/11, I am of the opinion that this so called war if our President chooses to declare it, will only add to further the pain and suffering of more innocent people in this and other nations. The guilty parties should be systematically rounded up and held accountable for thier actions. No amount of carpet bombing another nation for personal gratification in the name of retribution will make this event less tragic. The problem as I see it is not a religious fanaticism as much as a political statement. We need to find these people and find out thier reasoning, if you can call it that. Without understanding the real motivation, we will be unable to prevent future attacks.

I fully believe what is frustrating to alot of folks is the fact the we are unable to point a finger at a clear and concise enemy. We may just have to think about this one a little bit instead of picking up a weapon to solve the problem.

Blessed Be


These Horrible Terror-act Left Us In Paralysis And Grief.the Streets Here... Sep 16th. at 3:29:49 pm UTC

Nightwing (Weilheim (Germany)) Age: 30 - Email


These horrible terror-act left us in paralysis and grief.
The streets here in germany are crowded with crying and
mourning people. No one of us can understand, how a religion
may be taken as a cause to kill innocent people. All our
thoughts are with these killed in the terror-act.

All Blessings and love for you all. May the goddess held
her hand over you.


America The Beautiful(the Original Version Of The First Verse Was Written... Sep 16th. at 3:47:33 pm UTC

Lady Garnet Redstone (Charlotte) Age: 44 - Email


America the Beautiful
(The original version of the first verse was written by Katharine Lee Bates. It was modified by Lady Garnet Redstone, High Priestess of the Sacred Oak Grove Coven in Charlotte, N.C. The second and third verses were written by Lady Garnet. This song was used by the Sacred Oak Grove in their healing ritual on 9-15-01.)

O beautiful, for spacious skies, for amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties, above the fruited plain!
America! America! (God/Goddess) shed (His/Her) grace on thee,
And crown thy good with (brotherhood/sisterhood) from sea to shining sea.

O beautiful, for freedom here, to worship our own way!
No matter what we call our God, together here we pray.
America! America! We send healing to you!
As we unite our energies, your spirit to renew!

O beautiful, this land we love, with people so diverse!
Unlike any other land on Earth, we put our freedom first!
America! America! May you always be free!
And may the whole world learn to love. So mote it be!


May The Goddess Take The Victims Of This Tragedy Into Her Arms... Sep 16th. at 4:00:16 pm UTC

Garnet (Saugus, Massachusetts US) Age: 51 - Email


May the Goddess take the victims of this tragedy into Her arms, and send solace to their family and friends.


The World Trade Center Is Attacked, And Strangely I Am Silent For... Sep 16th. at 4:18:16 pm UTC

~Morganne (Portland, Oregon US) Age: 28


The World Trade Center is attacked, and strangely I am silent for I am a woman with much to say. The Pentagon gets attacked, and strangely again I am silent, for no words could describe what I feel inside. Both towers come tumbling down like glass houses of the resulting fires, and strangely I am silent. Not because I heard the screams of the dying, not because I felt a shift in the veil, for I am not that dramatic. I have felt the touch of death too many times in my short life to count, to focus on the metaphysical aspect of this act of terror. In my short years I have comforted too many of the dying as they lay ready to traverse the path over into the Summerland.

I am silent, because I am a witch and that is the way I am. I dare to be silent while people pour out their anger and grief, those in pain need someone who will listen. I dare to be silent, for my anger is not meant to be sharedĐto inflame others and cause resulting harm. I dare to be silent, for my heart and will must be active. I must maintain equilibrium and balance no harm may come because of me, for as a witch I am practiced at manifesting my will. It is my chosen responsibility. Thus I maintain my silence except for this simple act.

I am here, listening. I am a witch, I am silent.


I Know That I Am Only Supposed To Comment Once But, An... Sep 16th. at 4:24:55 pm UTC

S. Garrison (Sacramento, California US) Age: 53


I know that I am only supposed to comment once but, an email from John made me come out of my own problems and remember what I am supposed to be practicing. This is what I aspire to do and I hope it helps somone else. I am going to bless a white balloon with red, white an blue crepe streamers and then release it on Tuesday morning (Sept 18) in rememberance of the all those who died and the volunteers who are helping in New York City. Thank you---R.BrWo.

At the Corner of Sunset & Sunrise

They say the hour is darkest before the dawn.
But oh, this night has gone on for so long.
When will the sun ever rise in my life?
Where is my star to lead me through the night?

The fire of life is in my soul.
The day breaks and the rooster crows.
My soul will be as the celestial sun,
The positive beams will shine in the morn. Written by S. Garrison(1st verse 1990 2nd verse 1999)


Blessings From Londonwe All Share Your Grief And Believe That Somehow... Sep 16th. at 4:32:22 pm UTC

earthspirit - jacquelyn adams (london, England UK) Age: 41 - Email


Blessings from London

We all share your grief and believe that somehow out of this there will be a new beginning for all of us.

On listening to the news, I hear the cries for war and would ask that all americans make themselves truly aware of other world polital events before making harsh choices about who should die. perhaps some of you are not aware of your country's political actions in other parts of the world.

The wisonm comes from learning about other people on this planet.

Hope and healing for us all!
earthspirit


I'm The Sort Of Person Who Often Writes What I'm Feeling, Trying... Sep 16th. at 5:03:59 pm UTC

Deb Barrand-Foisy (North Bay, Ontario CA) Age: 48 - Email


I'm the sort of person who often writes what I'm feeling, trying to cope with everyday life. Yet, here I am, finding I don't know how to put into words what I feel. I guess it's all been said anyway. I can only offer my deepest sympathies to all Americans, of all walks of life and all religions.
Words just don't seem to be able to describe the horror of what has happened. Yet it has also brought out the best in so many, with strength, heroics, courage and wisdom. We cannot change that which has happened, but let us focus our energies on the souls of those departed and gone on to Summerland. On those who are trying, as am I, to get past the anger and the ill will we might wish on the people who did this. Let us remember what religious persecution is and remember that only those involved in these actions should be held responsible for them. May they be brought to justice and my the Goddess guide all our steps in the trying times to come.
Blessings All, particularly our American friends, south of the border.
Damson


I Believe That We, As A Nation Of Believers, Should Perform A... Sep 16th. at 5:50:34 pm UTC

Wade White (Menlo) Age: 24 - Email


I believe that we, as a nation of believers, should perform a specific ritual for peace every year on the 11th. of September. Raise our voices to The Divine and send out all the posative energy that we are able to! It's what I've done as a gay Witch since the passing of Matthew Shepard on October 12th. I carve a lavender candle specific to gay issues such as homophobia and light it to dispell the darkness of the human heart, in the hours of the night...I'd like to see more folks do this. Let's all be 1, 000 Points of Light!!!

However, what I have seen that is rather disconcrting, is the stong fact that the Nation seems to be ignoring The Goddess, The Divine Mother of us all!!! It's almost heart breaking in a Nation with so many diverse religions. Even during the "Inter-Fait Memorial" there was no one there to represent The Goddess. All I saw were 3 basic "mainstream" religions which have what can best be termed as a "Patriarchal Divinity". I would have been prouyd to be a Pagan had I seen anyone invited to The Cathedral to represent The Goddess, in any form! But, alas...I saw nothing similar. How about you??? You may respectfully E-Mail me if you like concerning this message.


I Was At Work On That Horrible Day, When My Boss Came... Sep 16th. at 5:56:57 pm UTC

Lisa (Ft. Myers, Florida US) Age: 34


I was at work on that horrible day, when my boss came into the restaurant, turned on the tv, when we gathered to wonder how the "accident" had come to be. Oh, there's another plane, you can see how big that hole really is. Then the world turned inside out. They stood stunned, horrified. I ran to the bathroom and threw up, sobbed alone in the kitchen in a corner, lost, suddenly aware of what the people in Israel live with every single day. The few customers we had were all gathered around the tv when I came out, composed but shaking. I called my husband, told him to turn on the news, any channel, it didn't matter-- and could barely bring myself to say the words, to make it REAL. I went back to the tv, my coworker telling me, "This is war." No, it can't be...then the Pentagon. The President was already in the air, and oh so selfishly we were GLAD he was on his way out of Florida; he'd been only an hour away from us, what if airplanes were the least of what was to come? I wanted to run home, crawl under the bed, find someplace safe from the new reality.

I listen to the calls for retribution, and the blood lust rises quickly, eagerly inside me. What happened to that confident voice of reason I've always had? Where is my desire to "work things out?" I keep watching those horrible images of the planes ripping through the towers. I watch them willingly now, even though I flinch each and every time. Because those fiery scenes feed my sorrow, and as long as I am mourning, the anger can not come. My anger that I keep such a tight reign on. I fear my anger. I fear the combined energy of this great country's anger. Because if it is anything like my own temper, it will rage until there is NOTHING left.

Mostly I fear that there will be nothing left of us.

I have worked no magick, for I fear that I too will call upon the dark aspects of the Goddess and use all my energy for retribution. War has truly come; it wages inside me daily. I light my candles in silence and tell all my loved ones how much I cherish them, how glad I am that they are safe.

I read this board and am glad for those older, wiser than me, who have seen the horrors of what can come, who speak to that rational core inside me. Your words strengthen me, and I can only hope that our leaders have people like you to strengthen them. The savage within me still screams for bloody retribution. I have no answers for it. Goddess help us all.


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