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911 America: Talking Through The Terror...

Talking Through The Terror... And helping each other cope with the tragedies that struck at the very heart of the United States. The Witches Voice has opened up this forum in order that Pagans may express their thoughts on the terrorist attacks that took place in NYC and DC on September 11th. As the full realization of what happened and the toll numbers begin to come in, Americans have many challenges ahead.

What are your thoughts on these incidents? How are you feeling? Feel free to post any magickal workings or other support gatherings planned in your area.

WebNote 9/16/2001: Since we launched this on 911 this forum as become laced with powerful inspiration and critical information, feel free to use the search functions on your left to better define the info you are looking for. Search for your area, famous Pagans, key words etc. Also check Wren's Nest News for the latest news related to our community.

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Please Feel Free To Rewrite This As You See Fit. It Is... Sep 11th. at 6:59:37 pm UTC

Cynthia Tyler (Little DragonFlower) (Philadelphia, New York US) Age: 21 - Email


Please feel free to rewrite this as you see fit. It is not the author that is important, it is the message:

Dear Brothers and Sisters:

As you well know, a great travesty has befallen humanity. The City of God is burning and the Twin brothers have fallen. Nostradamus did not see wrong. The Third Great War is fast coming upon us. I come to you now to spread the word to your brothers and sisters, covens, circles and churches to become ready to raise a great Cone of Power.

I and my fellow pagans have had a dream, last night, before this horror. It was a nameless evil, waiting to consume everything. This pervaded us with a deep-rooted feeling of dread and fear. It was then that we decided to send word to our breatheren far and wide.

We must be ready to protect millions of innocent lives, and protect those who are overwhelmed with protecting us. We have the power together, and we must do this to save the world from darkness.

Lend your energies, prayers and offerings however little or large. Reach out and touch your powers together. The time to raise the cone is unsure, but the need within says that the time is coming soon, we will all know when. This destruction of thousands of lives is a great sign. Our prayers all beseech the Gods to not let them pass by. Now we must ready ourselves to fight this darkness.

Thank you for your time, I can only hope that you feel the same as I do. Please send this to anyone you believe to want to help.

Sincerely, Blessed Be,

Little DragonFlower
Philadelphia, New York

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The Children Of My Generation Have Never Known War. We Are Too... Sep 11th. at 7:00:11 pm UTC

Eleigh (Corpus Christi, Texas US) Age: 17 - Email


The children of my generation have never known war. We are too young to remember the Gulf War, and Operation Desert Storm is but a phrase from our early memory. Throughout the school day, televisions and radios in different rooms blared the latest news of the great American tragedy. Students were either apathetic or shocked -- more commonly a combination of both -- as they puzzled over the impact this event would cause on their daily lives and their lives in the future. Those children with parents or other close family in the military were making phone calls about the situations on our US military bases or weeping quietly in each others arms. In my varsity choir class, we talked about the importance of community in times of crisis. We acknowledged the need for unity in helping to control the hardships of warfare; including economic downfall, local anarchy and pillaging, the pain of losing those persons closest to us, and international chaos.

This terrorist act, and whatever else may come as a result, has brought a new form of empathy for my generation towards those who have come before us. Yesterday, my biggest concern was whether or not I'd have my journalism assignment in on time. Today, my greatest fear is that hundreds-of-thousands of lives will be lost in a war that will define my generation. I think of how my grandparents and great-grandparents felt when they heard the announcement of WW2. My heart is in my throat as I think of all my friends who have joined the military. I tear up in fear at the thought of the boys sitting next to me in class being drafted. I cannot even imagine the ripping pain these boy's guardians must feel.

While the future remains uncertain, we must realize that now is the time for unity. There is safety in numbers -- and in the knowledge that the people around you have their hearts and minds tied to yours. Say a prayer, tell someone in pain that you sympathize with them, give blood, volunteer with the Red Cross, light a candle, set aside petty conflicts and rise together as one people. "E PLURIBUS UNUM."

Life is too short for hate.


Mm, I Have A Message That I Believe All Wiccans/pagans Should... Sep 11th. at 7:00:26 pm UTC

helcat (Ottawa, Ontario CA) Age: 18


MM, I have a message that I believe all Wiccans/Pagans should read. Please take part. This is an unspeakable horror and a monumental hurt. Blessings,

-helcat

*YOU HAVE BLANKET PERMISSION TO FORWARD THIS MESSAGE SWIFTLY AND WIDELY*

People,

In addition to everyone's private efforts occuring throughout the day, I am calling for a major coordination of an Act of Magick on behalf of this crisis to take place TONIGHT at Midnight, U.S. Eastern (New York/Washington D.C.)Time, 11p.m. Central time, 10p.m. Mountain Time, 9p.m. Pacific time and 5a.m in Great Britain and Western Europe. All who can please gather in your temples, living rooms, sacred groves and by your nearest power spot to send energy to this situation. If your heart directs you to, please CONTINUE this Act of Magick for Nine Nights - I feel strongly that our country's leadership will direct the country towards wholesale warfare; this Act of Magick will be both healing and prophylactic. The goals as I see it that we should focus on as a bare minimum should be:

* Safety and Healing, both for individuals and our piece of Gaia - and Herself as a whole

* Reinforcement of our personal and national shields

* A STRONG thread of Peace and Calming directed within our own borders as well as towards the Attackers

* A prayer for clarity and equanimity to prevail

* A STRONG thread directed to our country's leaders NOT to consider War as an option and good vibes sent to our people in the military

However your customs, traditions and spirit tell you to combine any or all of these issues (or others you may come up with) and proceed, please do so. The important thing is that we coordinate our energies

at the same time and keep the wave going as long as we can - Nine Days is the ancient prescription for such crises.

Now, a plea for rationality: Most of you know that I have been involved in the Islamic world in one way or another since college.
My gut, intuition and magick say that there are Muslim interests involved in these horrible incidents, which seem to be confirmed by the fragmentary reports coming in. I would ask everyone on this list who is actively involved in sending to this situation to think, at least *think* about (if not actively send love/magick/positive energy

to) the Muslims here in America, who are mostly peace-loving people, innocent of any involvement there may be in this awful affair. Islam boasts a larger than normal amount of fundamentalists due to its active emphasis on Jihad-e-Asghar (the Smaller War, against "infidels" - the Larger Jihad, Jihad-e-Akbar is the fight against the evil in oneself...), but we are talking about a VERY small minority who are not supported by the rank and file. I can see

the writing on the wall here for the fates of average Muslims living in this country if/when reports of Muslim involvement are concerned.

In the late 70's when I was teaching English in the Iranian immigrantcommunity, we regularly bandaged up Iranian and Arab boys and girls
who had the crap beaten out of them by bigoted idiots - their lives were sheer utter hell for years. Please, when you are sending your energies out to this situation, consider reserving a portion for the peace, strength, calming and healing of the Muslim community in America, and for increased positive relations between Islamic communities and other religions/lifestyles worldwide. Thank you.

I look forward to joining energies tonight and for the next eight nights on this. Anyone with more/better ideas, please post them and forward this one as widely as you like.

Many Blessings be to all of you,
Maryam Webster,
Saratoga, California


This Is Like All Of My Worst Nightmares Realized. I Can Remember... Sep 11th. at 7:05:58 pm UTC

Kaicielia BlueDragon (Madison, Wisconsin US) Age: 25 - Email


This is like all of my worst nightmares realized. I can remember some of my worst nightmares as a child were of walking home from school, and I had to cross a warfield to get home. I can remember dreams of attacks on the school and trying to hide in the halls, or get outside where it would be safer. I don't know what to do. I do give plasma on a regular basis, only because I cannot give whole blood. I hope that helps somewhat. I don't know what else to do. I feel lost, like I need to be doing something, I should be doing something. I hope this all plays out a little easier than all this, but I don't think that is at all likely. I guess I can just pray to the gods to help these people and save all they can.


There Isn't Much That I Can Say That Hasn't Already Been Said... Sep 11th. at 7:11:20 pm UTC

Krist (Columbus, Ohio US) Age: 27 - Email


There isn't much that I can say that hasn't already been said. I am utterly disgusted and quite sad about the events that took place today. Not only by the disasters, but also by the celebrations that took place because of this tragedy. My thoughts and prayers to those whom have suffered, their families and friends, and the Nation. May the Gods provide comfort, healing and love to all.


Greetings All;my Alarm Clock Has A Radio On It And I... Sep 11th. at 7:11:47 pm UTC

Falconfeather (Anchorage, Alaska US) Age: 26 - Email


Greetings All;

My alarm clock has a radio on it and I woke up today(11am EST) to the horrible news. I thought I was still dreaming; that my dreams had taken a terrible, twisted turn. Even though I had the radio up at nearly full volume in the truck all the way to work, it didn't really start to sink in until I had actually arrived at work and heard everyone talking about it and saw it on the TV (I work in a telecommunications company and there are TVs all over the place with CNN & NBC updating us constantly throughout the day - there's no escape from the horror).
My condolences go out to all those who were injured and to all the family members of those taken in today's acts of terrorism (read: COWARDICE). My energies will go out tonight to those passing beyond the Veil, healing the wounded, and to support the efforts of the emergency personel working tirelessly and selflessly during this crisis.

In Light & Dark,
FF


This Is Just Insane. I Had The Same Strange Sinking Feeling That... Sep 11th. at 7:11:57 pm UTC

Ianne (Abilene, Texas US) Age: 19


This is just insane. I had the same strange sinking feeling that Ghost mentioned and my dreams were of formless monsters crashing through glass walls. I didn't know how they related until I heard the report of the planes crashing into TWC.
When I went to classes today, everyone was in a state of shock. We all gathered around an AV room TV in the student's lobby and just stared in open mouthed horror. We all were silenced by this horrible massacre. Prayers were muttered, nobody caring who they were to, as long as they were praying to someone. For once, all our differences were forgotten in that ominous instant, we became simply Americans. And we'd just been raped by an invisible enemy.

I can only say that the sky will never be as blue as it was yesterday.
Never again.

Gods protect us.
Ianne



My Thoughts And Prayers Goes Out To All Who Is Personally Affected... Sep 11th. at 7:13:49 pm UTC

Moonsnake (Stockholm, Sweden) Age: 39


My thoughts and prayers goes out to all who is personally affected by this immensely sad and unspeakable tragedy, but also to the whole planet which seems to be standing on a crossroad at a crucial moment where time has stopped. On my altar, incense and a white candle is burning for protection and healing of the survivors and the brave people in the rescue teams. I have also asked the Goddess to guide all victims, whose spirits are in shock after a sudden and violent death, safely to the Summerland and to welcome Her children Home. I pray that the U.S. government and the citizens of America may not let their emotional fears and rage rule their actions and that world peace will prevail. What we all need now is positive and constructive actions and thoughts.


An Open Letter:okay, It's Time For Those Of Us Who Work... Sep 11th. at 7:15:44 pm UTC

Yasmine Galenorn (Seattle, Washington US) Age: 40 - Email


An Open Letter:
Okay, it's time for those of us who work with energy to pull together. I have set up an altar for the dead, for peace and protection...if everyone who works with energy does something to focus, then maybe our workings will be felt--there are a lot of souls that departed today in confusion and pain, a lot of frightened people don't know what to do, and our country needs as much love now as we can give it, and as much support. I have also set up an altar to the Dark Mother, asking that justice be brought to bear where it is appropriate.

In whatever way you work best, be it magick, prayer, or simply 'good thoughts', let's build a web of energy to try and help out...if you have friends who do the same, encourage them to add their energy....if we know we are not alone in doing this, it can make the work stronger.

Also: encourage people to give blood. I've got a link below to help you find the nearest donation point. If you can give it, then do so. If you can't, then do whatever you can to help out.

In love, sorrow and shock,
Yasmine Galenorn


The Bright Noon Sun Shines Over The Beautiful Pink Stone Of A... Sep 11th. at 7:20:17 pm UTC

Seamus McKeon (Boston , Massachusetts US) Age: 10


The bright noon sun shines over the beautiful pink stone of a university plaza in Boston as one lone Pagan moves in a state of disbelief and fear, wondering about friends and family back home, where the smoke still rises. The pictures of fire and destruction still fresh upon his mind, he encounters a friend, at school and in spirit, and the two witches embrace. Just that morning, their biggest issue was the discrimination they faced from school officials for worshipping the way they do, but now that worry is lost in a sea of struggling emotions. Class seems like something very far away as words cannot express the anxiety and sadness felt throughout the nation. And one thought forms in two minds; healing.

So the two witches do as their hearts direct them. They head to one of their homes, and begin to plan a circle, an expression of healing in the midst of shock, in an on-campus room that prohibits the use of fire. The altar is set up, the candles annointed and lit. Two more join in, one a witch, and one not, but the intent is the same in both. A card depicting the sun is written upon, addressed to the Earth, the Gods, and humanity, and a message of love, strength, and healing is conveyed through green ink.

The circle is cast, the Gods invoked to heal, and the tears stream down faces as the energy is released. And the Witches gather in a hug, sharing their comfort, as the incense moves toward the windows. The circle is soon down and class has been missed, but a feeling of hope and release is gained. Solidarity lends strength on this deceptively beautiful afternoon, and the work of recovery is begun.

That card was meant for you, and for me, and for all of us. Accept its power, and our love. And perhaps we can face disaster with unity, and win. Brightest Blessings be upon you and yours forever this day.


Not-so-merry Meet, Since I'm A Newspaper Reporter (a Very Small Town Newspaper... Sep 11th. at 7:25:45 pm UTC

Dawn Pillsbury (Sebastopol, California US) Age: 27 - Email


Not-so-merry meet,

Since I'm a newspaper reporter (a very small town newspaper reporter -- no fear of my getting sent to cover this disaster through I did call up the mayor and ask him about it) I've been innundated with news about it all day.

My biggest fear coming out of this -- greater even than my fear for my friends who are likely injured or killed -- is that our government will use this as an excuse to commit greater abridgements of our civil liberties in the name of a war on terrorism.

When I join the act of magic for this disaster this evening, I will pray that our representatives not allow our rights to be trampled in the name of national security. As we've seen, the conventional approach to domestic security does not work.

Blessed Be.


Thoughts On This Terrible Event In Our Nation's History. Like Many, I... Sep 11th. at 7:31:44 pm UTC

Mark Sosnowski (Bridgeport, Connecticut US) Age: 39 - Email


Thoughts on this terrible event in our nation's history. Like many, I was at work when I heard of the horrific events happening in New York City. Words can hardly describe the scenes of devastation, it was at best surreal. Transfixed, we watched, waiting and hoping for good news. Then the bombing of the Pentagon. Then the other plane in the fields of Pennsylvania.

I watched as the first tower of the World Trade Center collapsed. It defied belief. At one point I had to leave the room for fear of bursting into tears. A colleague of mine has a daughter who works at the WTC. He had no news of her. I could feel his pain, I cannot imagine what was going through his mind. Hers was a good ending, finally after hours of waiting, the call came through, she was fine, though no details. We all breathed a sigh of relief.

We work in our state's capital. I can see it, only a few short blocks away. Rumors went around that all tall buildings were being evacuated. We only have a 10 story building, and I work on the 6th floor. The WTC had 11 times the stories we have. Late in the morning word came that we, as a state office building, were also being sent home, the chose not to use the word, evacuate. Normally within a couple of minutes, one of the 4 elevators is at our call. I remember waiting better than 15 minutes for it to arrive. I can only imagine the horror those people faced many stories higher with no escape. My heart and prayers goes out the the families of those who perished, to the many workers trying to dig through the rubble looking for survivors, and the many health care workers dealing with this living nightmare.

I call upon the sword of justice to swing its mighty blow on the perpetrators of this act. I recall seeing our Lady Liberty looking on toward the billowing smoke enveloping the Isle of Manhattan. Truly a sad sight to behold. How dare someone terrorize us! Justice must swing its sword against the criminals who dared do this act.

I invoke these Gods of Law and Justice, Forseti, Kuan-Ti, Misharu, Nah-Hunte, Shamash, and Tyr to deal with this situation. I invoke these Goddesses of Law and Justice, The Erinyes, Ma'at, and Astrae to deal with this situation. And lastly, I invoke the Teiwaz rune over the matter. So it must be.


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