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Question of the Week: 94 - 1/13/2003

Who Would Make Your Pagan/Heathen Who’s Who List?

If you were compiling the Pagan/Heathen equivalent of the famous ‘Who’s Who’ list of influential people, which Pagan or Heathen names would make it on your list? Why did you choose these people?

Which non-Pagans, but still people who are/were influential in some way to issues important to Pagans, should be on the list?

What qualities or accomplishments did you consider to be the most important in making your choices?

Finally, which people of your own acquaintance would make your private ‘most influential people in my life’ list?

 Reponses:   There are 91 responses posted to this question. Reverse Sort 

Not Sure There Should Be A "whos Who" Jan 19th. at 9:44:37 am EST

Trish Telesco (western ny) Age: 42 - Email - Web

Per say. There are a lot of wonderful people out there that are only known to a few doing the work that NEEDS to be done -- not for recognition or praise, but for simple love of their faith and an honest desire to see neopaganism move forward. It is these people, in any era or time, to whom we owe a debt of gratitude. These souls are our foundations, or ever-sure cornerstones - they hold us firm in the storms and build us up in the sunshine.

Yes, there are many wonderful authors and artists who help educate the public about our beliefs, and I do not belittle their efforts. But IMO it's much tougher to be a "hero" when your efforts are unsung (and very frequently go without even so much as a thank you).

So I thank those people who have been behind the lines supporting, nurturing, and motivating us to be our best.

The Early Ones Jan 19th. at 12:42:15 am EST

Twilight Rising (indiana) Age: 17 - Email

I think the most important people were the first pagans. The druid that looked up into the sky and, for the first time, saw the face of Danu. The Greek, seeking out wisdom, who found Apollo. The first shaman to journey into the lower worlds. The first person to ever just stop, and listen, and feel the presence of something greater than they were. These are who makes my who's who list. Starhawk, Garderner, Crowley, Wren, they would not be the same if it wasn't for those who came before them. As Newton, who was both an astrologer and an alchemist, said "If I have seen so far, it is because I have stood on the shoulders of giants."

Doreen Valiente Jan 18th. at 9:18:28 pm EST

Sofia Turpin (Hampton VA) Age: 20 - Email

I think this one should be obvious.

One More I Forgot Jan 18th. at 9:07:13 pm EST

Daven (Nashville, TN, USA) Age: 35 - Email - Web

4nongoths of Why Wiccans Suck.

Four years ago, I was Wiccan. I found two things. One was AncientSites, where I picked
the character class of "Druid" because my knowledge of Wicca and Newage drek would help
me. So I started looking online for information, and that is where I found WWS. It was
a punch in the gut to me. I had written a few good articles in my time (like Path of
the Magician) but most of my site at that point was other people's work.

It woke me up, it showed me that while I was not quite as bad as some, I was a
fluffbunny. Over the next few months, I worked hard on studying Druidism, and as a
result of that, Wicca. I learned my own religion and what it actually was. A lot of
things suddenly gelled in my head and I knew that a lot of what I knew was already
there, but it was disjointed. So, I worked on orginizing all my knowledge and expanding
what I knew and filling in gaps. I STILL use WWS as a primary resource for some things,
mostly a way to guage my own fluffyness.

4nongoths is entirely responsible for Why Wiccans Suck and for Daven's Journal. Without that resource starting me and waking me up, my own site, Daven's Journal would not exist. Link to More info related to this post -- HERE

My 'Top 10' Jan 18th. at 5:20:45 pm EST

Three Poles (Kansas City) Age: 46 - Email

1. Robert Heinlein for making me see human nature outside religion.
2. Arthur C. Clarke for making me see what we *could* be, outside religion.
3. Scott Cunnighma for taking the fear of the word 'witch' out of me.
4. Stewart Fararr for, well, being dear Stewart. Gods I miss him.
5. Gavin Bone for his support of our own personal efforts for our pagan community
6. Don Waterhawk. Don spoke to me 10 years ago and changed my life. And he keeps doing it, dammit.
7. Lady Circe, for taking the hits we all don't have to take nowadays.
8. Lady Elspeth for her Virginia accent when she tells me about the goddess.
9. The infamous Shaggyman; my spiritual mentor and friend.
10. Shanem Falconfire, Elder and Friend, who has stood tall for Honor, respect, and hard work while others could not.

Honorable Mentions
1 - Raven, brother in Honor and Faith.
2 - How could I know Alaric Terrason and not give mention?
3 - My own coven, who contain some of the first pagans in this area. Back before it was trendy or Safe.
4 - Mike Nichols, for his effort for our people.


My Pagan Who's Who List Jan 18th. at 3:48:50 pm EST

Korelyia (Calgary) Age: 42 - Email

1. Margarian Bridger Evergreen HPs and Steven Hergest Evergreen HP
2. Verne my Craft grandmother, she is wise, wonderful and supports you by letting you be you
3. Brigantia Stone my Graft Great Grandmother who writes wonderful thought provoking articles and make me think
4. Judy Harrow Proteus HPs who has written wonderful books, and with Brigantia writes wonderful articles on the Proteus website
5. Starhawk
6. Scott Cunningham
7. Vicki Noble for the Motherpeace tarot deck with Karen Vogel and for Shakti Woman
8. Karen Vogel for the Motherpeace tarot deck with Vicki Noble
9. Barbara Walker
10. Z Budapest
11. Llewellyn Books

An eclectic mix of personal and public people and one institution that have helped me and many others on their journeys.

Calgary, Canada Link to More info related to this post -- HERE

My List Of Pagan Whos Who Jan 18th. at 3:01:41 pm EST

Raven Spirit (Kansas City) Age: 32 - Email - Web

Well lets see who would make my list of Whos Who....well here is a short list

First and formost my Wife. She is a Goddess all by herself.

My HP and HPS (Angel and Dreamweaver)

Shanem Falconfire, Bel'Mor and Hawk (My Elders)

M.R. Sellars a personal friend and family member (I love ya brother)

Patrick "A Really Nice Guy" Chambers. He shows what it means to give..and give..and give.

My coven family

And last but not least every Pagan, Witch, Wiccan, Asatru, etc that has come to KCPPD and made it the sucess that it is

My Pagan/Heathen Who’s Who List? Top 10 Anyway... Jan 18th. at 2:55:00 pm EST

Tan yr Ddraig (Dothan,Alabama) Age: 31 - Email

1}Scott Cunningham (For all the knowledge has has shared)
2}Ann Moura (Aoumiel) ( For all the green craft wisdom)
3}Kerr Cuhulain (a fellow warrior...that and I respect anyone who doesn't hide their faith from the world)
4}D.J. Conway (For all the Celtic & Norse wisdom shared)
5}Rev.RavenSilverPheonix (My Correllian Nativist Tradition first degree mentor. Had to plug my teacher and all. lol)
6}Raymond Buckland (for the big blue book that doesn't fit on the shelf)
7}Wyrd Pagan (a friend who was a support when one was needed)
8}Raven Grimassi (a author whom I tend to admire)
9}Wren (Ok I know this is a little like butt smooching, but I give credit where it is do and she gives great knowledge in her rantings.)
10}Robin Wood (for the tarot deck.)

Whos Who Jan 18th. at 12:16:13 pm EST

bearmother (ks) Age: 32 - Email

Patricia Monaghan, Angelina Dawn and Deirdre M. Murphy would be at the top of my list for their Goddess poetry. Of non-pagan heros, Joseph Campbell for showing me the "Power of Myth" and Richard Wright for his "Between The World and Me". Jo helped me to see beyond cultural boundaries, whereas Wright's details of a hate crime are forever burned into my mind so that I don't forget. Of local favorites; Dr. A., a native of India, whom (with a quiet conviction) assured me that Sati WAS NOT a current practice of the Hindu faith. Then theres my friends at the Enchanted Willow; for listening, teaching and keeping me up on local pagan events. And the hubby guy, who is my best friend.

I've Been Doing Alot Of Thinking On This Question..... Jan 18th. at 11:57:56 am EST

silverwinterrose (Spartanburg, SC) Age: 46 - Email

and have found that I have been influenced by many great Pagans/Witches/
Heathens....I have read and admired Scott Cunningham, whom may be simple
but is a great starting point for those new to the Craft, Raymond Buckland,
Starhawk and more...There has been just as many books and articles that
don't seem to have the quality of info needed to help those who are
seeking the different paths of our Religion. When I first started on my
Path 2.5 years ago..I was eager to read everything I could get my hands on
and as I progressed I became quit 'picky' to what I was allowing into my mind.
My Path has evolved since my beginning and now I feel I am starting to understand
and find enlightenment in my choices.

And even tho I have had the ability to study and read some fine information
I have to say that the one most influential person in my life would have to be:

Ivy_w. willow..aka..Christina...

She is my youngest daughter with whom I have had the priviledge of sharing my life with.
She introduced me to Witchcraft about 5 years ago and I came to understand and
seek the knowledge 2.5 Years ago..We have been able to encourage and help each
other along the way..Without her I feel I would still be trapped in a world of
much sadness and depression..She started me on my Path to the Goddess and for
that I will be forever grateful.

Brightest Blessings to All

Personal Top Pagans Jan 18th. at 10:37:08 am EST

willow (ottawa) Age: 40 - Email

As with so many, there are those who "wrote the books" who will always top the list. And they have all been mentioned, altho i think Phyllis Currott was missed. Her book "book of shadows" was amazing.

my list would have to be personal and no one anyone here would know them but, this is an opportunity to thank them and let them know how they've influenced me. So, first and foremost, i want to thank my ex-husband who, by his actions, sent me to the pits of despair which led to my spiritual journey in search of light and truth. (no chuckling now, it's true) I'm sure i'd have found my way here eventually but... well.. 'nuf said. It's history. To Pastor Barry and Pastor Denny for both turning their backs on me during that time and showing me just how much community there really was in the Pentacostal Church. To both of them i would have to say a heartfelt thanks because NOW i know what it is to be truly "SAVED".. :o)...(yanno, feels good to finally get this of ones chest LOL)

Last but not least to my very very special ONE who lives so very far away from me. So far, yet always near. He was always there to answer questions and to guide. Shared freely of his knowledge and love. Thank You!!
(and i don't mean that one from the UK either!!!! rofl..)

(I Don't Know What You Are Asking For.) Jan 18th. at 10:36:48 am EST

Nancy Beront (upstate New York) Age: 52 - Email

I have been most influenced by the author Scott Cunningham, as I am a solitary. I have read many books, but I seem to identify most with him. My two adult daughters are also solitaries (we live at distances from each other)and we have similar but different paths. Whenever we are together we share rituals, but for the most part, I am completely alone and his advice has been invaluable and encouraging. Most other books make me feel that I would be a "failure" if I didn't have a coven of a certain number, that did certain things, etc., but I feel comfortable and get results with my path.

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