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Question of the Week: 55 - 8/20/2001

What Lies Beyond?

What does your magical/magickal tradition, belief system, training, religion or Path say about what will happen to you when you depart this earthly realm via what we call 'death'? If your belief system includes concepts such as 'Summerland', 'Avalon' or 'Valhalla' as a final arrival point in the hereafter, what do you envision that place/state will be like? Is it permanent or do you move on from there? If your belief system teaches/advocates reincarnation, what steps does the soul/spirit go through in the process? Why does the belief that you have been taught or have chosen concerning the afterlife appeal to you? Do your beliefs- or non beliefs- in the continuation of the Spirit help you in your life today when you encounter hard times, illness or the physical death of a loved one?

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This Week's Question Really Hit Home For Me. My Husband Has Congestive... Aug 20th. at 2:27:54 pm EDT

Lady Flame (Jackson, Tennessee US) Age: 29 - Email

This week's question really hit home for me. My husband has congestive heart failure and last week had to be admitted to the hospital again due to complications from his condition and the medication he has to take. I have always believed in reincarnation. I also believe that when we pass over we spend time in the Summerlands looking over the last life in preparation for the next. Lyon (husband) and I were handfasted two years ago and plan on renewing our vows again this fall. In his mind, it is to make doubly sure that we will meet again in the next life and hopefully have more time together. He plans on waiting for me in the Summerlands. This is, perhaps, his way of dealing with his own mortality and his efforts in reassuring me that he will always be with me, even if it is just in Spirit.

Believing in more than one life and knowing that death is rebirth to another life does not, however, make it any easier to watch a loved one slowly die. What does help is knowing that there will be more lives to spend together and that the Goddess does things in Her own way and time. I am reminded daily that each day is a precious gift because I never know if we will have tomorrow.

Well, Believe It Or Not, But The Movie What Dreams May Come... Aug 20th. at 2:20:26 pm EDT

Aelfen Pandora (Chicago, Illinois US) Age: 16 - Email

Well, believe it or not, but the movie What Dreams May Come changed my views of life after death since I had just converted from christianity to eclectic paganism and none of my books said anything about what happens after we die. In the movie, everyone forms their own worlds that are heaven to them; Robin Williams's character's wife was a painter and she was his soulmate. His heaven was a painting she painted for him. I believe that we form our own heavens and there is no "hell" or "punishment", that all karmic debts are repaid in our next lives, after reincarnation.

I strongly suggest seeing What Dreams May Come.

Merry Part and Blessed Be!

What Lies Beyond? Summerland Simplicity Always Seemed As Unreal As The Xtian... Aug 19th. at 10:45:32 pm EDT

Tarostar (Toronto, Ontario CA) Age: 59 - Email

What Lies Beyond? Summerland simplicity always seemed as unreal as the xtian "Heaven", strumming harps and singing Psalms for Eternity. Besides, who would want to go to New Jerusalem with all those sin-shouting, self-righteous Buzzards, for eons and eons?

As a magical practitioner, Theosophy seemed to have a more reasonable grasp of the "other world". Involution and evolution, with cycle after cycle on many Planes of Being is understandably explained.

Through modern terminology, the inferences drawn by the Pagan Neo-Platonic Sages seemed to hold more water than most modern theologies. One of the Elders of my trad in Craft was Charmaine Dey, author of THE MAGIC CANDLE; Original Pub., 82. She was also an officer of the Theosophical Lodge in Huston, Tx. Through her, much Psychic Science and Metaphysics were passed into the trad.

The Coven was versed in traditional Witches Mediumship and practice of seance and Spiritualism. Knowledge of other planes and methods for contacting
them were taught.

The process called Death was known as a simple movement into an other room
in an infinite Continuum, changing as each Plane of being requires.

The problem with most "Other side" teachings is the individual thinks he/she would still be the same personality, as is here and now being expressed. Nothing
can be further from the truth. The Persona is the first casualty in the peeling away process as the Spirit elevates on the upper Planes of Being.

Every "soul" knows what an Arschloch it really is and at death, the mind seperates from it and illuminates to burn off the dross of the soul. The Persona is part of that soul and fades.

The Spirit judges itself and castigates itself for its own failures or misdeeds. However, it is always moving upward back toward Source, but has cycles of experiences to undergo on those upper levels also. One has involuted for eons and will evolute for eons. The process is unending.

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