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Question of the Week: 59 - 9/11/2001

911 America: Talking Through The Terror...

Talking Through The Terror... And helping each other cope with the tragedies that struck at the very heart of the United States. The Witches Voice has opened up this forum in order that Pagans may express their thoughts on the terrorist attacks that took place in NYC and DC on September 11th. As the full realization of what happened and the toll numbers begin to come in, Americans have many challenges ahead.

What are your thoughts on these incidents? How are you feeling? Feel free to post any magickal workings or other support gatherings planned in your area.

WebNote 9/16/2001: Since we launched this on 911 this forum as become laced with powerful inspiration and critical information, feel free to use the search functions on your left to better define the info you are looking for. Search for your area, famous Pagans, key words etc. Also check Wren's Nest News for the latest news related to our community.

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I Am A Tarot Reader On The Free Tarot Network, Www.freetarot.net, And... Sep 14th. at 9:08:50 pm UTC

Stevi (Novi, Michigan US) Age: 31 - Email


I am a tarot reader on the Free Tarot Network, www.freetarot.net, and one of the other readers shared a powerful ritual that I wanted to pass along:

"Here in the US, today (Friday September 14th) has been declared a
national day of rememberance and mourning. Here is the simple ritual
I performed, in the hopes it may bring a measure of comfort to others
as well. From my favorite tarot deck (I used Robin Wood) I first
pulled the Tower, to represent the World Trade Center. Next to it I
placed the Ace of Pentacles, for the Pentagon. I bridged these two
cards with Strength, and crossed them all with the Star. Along with
these I lit a candle, visualizing it lighting the way home for all
the lost souls."

I used the Universal Waite deck for this ritual to send strength and energy to all of those directly affected by this tragedy, and asked the God and Goddess to be with them also.

Blessed Be,

Stevi


I Have Been Horrified By The Attacks In The Us. I Feel... Sep 14th. at 9:05:50 pm UTC

Mendy Gossett (Monroe, Louisiana US) Age: 27


I have been horrified by the attacks in the US. I feel isolated since I am a solitary, and cannot openly express my feelings through my faith. These acts should give us pause, and is a glaring example of how intolerance and hate can affect everyone. My soul aches for those who have died and all those who lost someone they loved. I still cant explain this to my children. How do I do that?
My faith in humanity is shaken, but I know that love will conquer all. I pray that the God and Goddess bless us and help us to heal our wounds.


I Have Been Filled With Saddness, Then Anger Then Helplessness. Being As... Sep 14th. at 9:01:42 pm UTC

Starpalm (Bay Area, California US) Age: 38 - Email


I have been filled with saddness, then anger then helplessness. Being as I am I must shield constantly fore the energies out there are too much filled with pain, fear and grief. I have become a conduit and it is my charge to change this energy into something useful.

Each moment that passes is filled with a name, Osama bin Laden.

Osama bin Laden, you claim these acts of terror to be a Holy War.... It is not my war, but I WILL rise to meet you on your turf. Osama bin Laden, Osama bin Laden, Osama bin Laden may you FEEL the pain your destruction has caused, may you never think murderous thoughts, may you never scheme terroist actions, may you feel the grief of a Mother whose child's life you murdered, may you feel the loss of one whose Father will not come home, may you reel in the reality of what you term a Holy War.

Osama bin Laden, may your heart become HUMAN and may you see that the ones you murder are as you, just brothers, sisters, husbands, wives, mothers, fathers, daughters and sons. May you KNOW to KNOW the GREAT EVIL you have done. Osama bin Laden may you FEEL.

It is my Mantra, Osama bin Laden, that falls from my lips like a whisper, a ROAR. Your name begets so much emotion. With each breath I use to utter it, I FEEL, SEE & KNOW that what you sew you shall reep. The three fold law.

May you FEEL, Osama bin Laden, may you KNOW, Osama bin Laden, the HATE you fight is not ours it is your OWN. Osama bin Laden. I give you back your soul. Osama bin Laden, I give you back your compassion, your humanity, your Islamic Law. Osama bin Ladin I give you LOVE.

Osama bin Ladin, I promise you this, that I shall use all pray and continue my rites until you are STOPPED.

So Mote it BE
Starpalm, 9/14/01


Blessed Be The Souls Of Those Who Have Lost Their Lives.mercy... Sep 14th. at 8:53:02 pm UTC

Crystal Dawn (Bryan, Ohio US) Age: 16 - Email


Blessed be the souls of those who have lost their lives.
Mercy reign over those who have caused this tragedy, for they are ill in soul and mind.
Love and peace control the mouths, hands, and hearts of all those who witness the tragedy, whether first-hand, or through a television or computer screen.
We must not let hatred control us .. hatred is the killer of sentiment and compassion. Hatred is the mind-killer, the soul-damner, the heart-rotting emotion that kills indiscriminantly.

Hatred has already won over so many people here (Ohio, USA) .. they've defaced the local mosque .. harrassed anyone they think looks muslim or islamic (including those from India .. even mexicans aren't safe, just because they "have the same skin" ..) .. We need to band together .. send prayers of love into the world, do healing spells for the world, burn candles nightly, anything we can to stop all this anger, hatred, and pain ... We need to END this vicious cycle ... So Mote It Be!


It Is A Tragedy On A Grand Scale. As A British Citizen... Sep 14th. at 8:29:39 pm UTC

Jay Friedlander (Andover, England UK) Age: 24 - Email


It is a tragedy on a grand scale. As a british citizen I feel that we should support the USA. As a mother I am scared for the welfare of my small children, why did I become a mother when my children could be affected by world war 3?. My first thought when I heard was to all those innocent victims, especially the small children who had no understanding of what was going on.I tried to explain to my 2an three quater year-old why we had to be quiet fof 3 minutes today , my 18 week old baby was very good.My heart goes out to all the victims families, especially those who have lost the brave people in the fire brigade on police and ambulance crews. I have faith, but I do not understand why terroists can kill in the name of their god.
Jay friedlander


All The Wiccans In This Country And Around The World Should Start... Sep 14th. at 8:22:20 pm UTC

monty joslyn (ionia, Michigan US) Age: 53 - Email


All the wiccans in this country and around the world should start doing banishing spells on bin laden and all his buddies until theyre no problem It worked in ww2 against hitler


I Think That Through All The Planning These Terrorists Did They Forgot... Sep 14th. at 8:20:58 pm UTC

Sarah (Brooklyn, New York US) Age: 20 - Email


I think that through all the planning these terrorists did they forgot that our first name is united and when pushed we will show them we are not going to let them knock us down. I hope that everyone finds their loved one even if they are dead at least their bodies so they can give them a proper funeral. My love and sympathy to all the families who lost someone in these attacks.


The Phone Rang, Jerking Me Out Of Sleep. I Look At The... Sep 14th. at 7:59:57 pm UTC

Michelle (Mesquite, Texas US) Age: 28 - Email


The phone rang, jerking me out of sleep. I look at the clock first, and note that it's 9:04 AM. Who is calling me so damned early?

"Hello" I say, expecting a telemarketer.
Instead, I hear my best friend Mary's voice. "Are you watching the news?" she asked. "No" I replied, wondering if she was nuts- A) I never watch the news, and B) I rarely get up before 10:00, so why would I be watching it at 9?

"You should be" she said, and her voice was shaking.

The rest of the day passed in a state of numbed shock. I didn't cry, I didn't panic, I didn't react. I just sat, glued to the TV, for hours. At some point I brought two of my kids into the living room (they were home sick that day, as was I) and put them in front of the TV, saying "You need to see this, it's important". I watched my daughter, who is 12, reel from the images in front of us- stunned that this was happening. Still, I didn't react.

Around 7:00pm, my own reality shifted. The kids were with their father at his place, there was nothing else I needed to do at the time, so naturally I turned the set back on. After endless hours of seeing the same footage of the towers' collapses, I was now seeing something different. They were showing footage from *other* countries from around the world, who had also been airing it all day- they were showing the leaders of those countries offering their condolances to the President, and the American people.

I broke.

That shell was shattered, the numbness was gone, and all of it hit me at once.
Right then my coven brother called me, to tell me that we were going to be doing a healing ritual (in our own homes) in 15 minutes. He asked me what was wrong. I told him that the events of the day were just catching up to me, that I was just now reacting. I then began to get myself under control. Until he said "Today's the first day of World War III you know".

And I haven't been able to stop crying since.

I cry for all those who died in the planes and buildings, for all the loved ones they left behind, and for all who *will* die as a result of this brutal act.

And I, who haven't watched the news in 10 years, now watch it on 4 different channels almost 24 hours a day- and I'm taping much of it as well. I once considered myself just about the most un-patriotic person in the US, and now I'm out shopping for flags.

September 11th changed more than our landscape and population. It changed our hearts, and reminded us of our humanity. UNITED WE STAND.


The Tragity That I Saw Is Unsettling. I Am Bushido; A Warrior... Sep 14th. at 7:46:03 pm UTC

NeoBushido (Hector D.) (Weslaco, Texas US) Age: 35 - Email


The tragity that I saw is unsettling. I am Bushido; a warrior in my heart and my soul. With that title comes a code of conduct that Samuri have to abide by. I cannot strike in anger for it would poison my soul. The time to strike will come soon. With a peaceful heart, calm mind, and with honor. If these animals wanted a fight they got one. I have no blessings for these people. These people(the ones that blindly follow that fool Bin Laden and others like him) have put the ones that follow a peaceful life with all of us here in America in danger. My hopes, best wishes, and brightest blessings for all the victims, their families, and to all of you reading this message for are also victims


This Has Been A Week Of Shock, Pain, Sorrow, Anger, And Confusion... Sep 14th. at 7:29:07 pm UTC

Rhiannon (watchfire coven) (Portland, Oregon US) Age: 35 - Email


This has been a week of shock, pain, sorrow, anger, and confusion. I suppose I am one of the pacifist fluff bunnies that have been reviled by some of the postings here. In a way, these words of anger and disgust directed at fellow pagans are more hurtful than the actions of the extremist terrorists that attacked out nation. Now is not the time to attack each other, now is not the time to jump on the nearest soap box and spout rhetoric. Now is a time to mourn, to help, to think. to reach beyond differences and listen. The terrorists that attacked our nation took lives, they took buildings, they took security - we can not let them take our civility. If we react barbarically, we are as hateful and as hurtful and as evil as they are. I do think that they must be found, they must be punished. I do not think that justice will be accomplished if we do this by being ruled emotionally. We must maintain our civility, and seek out justice. We must at the same time look critically at what message we are sending to the world that allows individuals to cheer when Americans die. We must at the very least seek to understand each other and our differences and not toss hatered and accusations at one another.

Some time in the next month I will be bringing a child into this world (he is actually due on Samhain) - it is not the same world that I thought would be meeting my son. But I hope and pray that it is not a world where fellow pagans lash out at each other because of the hurt and pain that we are now experiencing. I hope that he grows in the community that has openly accepted so many despite differences in beliefs and lifestyles. I hope that he will learn to treat others with respect and kindness even if he disagrees with their opinions. As this new life stirs (and kicks and wiggles and pushes) in my womb I look to the future with an odd combination of hope and fear - I can only pray and work to make the hope outweigh the fear.


In This Time Of Turmoil, I'm Trying To Keep In Mind That... Sep 14th. at 7:12:40 pm UTC

Embla (Pipe Creek, Texas US) Age: 45 - Email


In this time of turmoil, I'm trying to keep in mind that the perpetrators of these attrocities have acted out of envy. Although I haven't the discipline to forgive the deeds, I've discovered that I do have it in my heart to forgive them their envy. This may not be a terribly popular viewpoint, but it's helping me to cope with the grief that I feel coming from around the world and pouring out of myself.


Pure Evil. How Can I Not Wish Harm On Someone Who Has... Sep 14th. at 7:07:08 pm UTC

Aleicia Boomer (Gautier, Mississippi US) Age: 24 - Email


Pure evil. How can I not wish harm on someone who has done so much evil?


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