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Who Are Your Gods?

Who are your Gods/Old Ones/Ancestors? Did you choose Them or did They choose you? Do you believe/perceive Them as merely evolved Beings-or are They indeed the all-powerful Masters of the Universe? Do you believe/perceive that Gods/Goddesses/Ancestors/Old Ones are extensions of your higher self, separate and distinct Beings of personality or 'all Gods and Goddesses are One'? In your times of need, do you believe that They can overturn the Laws of Karma/The Fates/The Norns for you? Why do you suppose that some prayers/pleas/invocations are seemingly ignored while others may be answered? Do you feel that the Gods/Ancestors/Old Ones may sometimes 'use' you to accomplish some greater plan than you may be humanly aware of? How do you feel about that? What has been your most powerful, meaningful or life-altering encounter with Them?

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I Believe In Jesus, Allah, Buddha, And The Goddess. I Feel That... Apr 30th. at 12:53:52 pm UTC

JourneyWalker (Covington, Kentucky US) Age: 17


I believe in Jesus, Allah, Buddha, and the Goddess. I feel that there is one being but just different names.


In Reality, I Do Not Believe In Diety So Much As In... Apr 30th. at 11:01:23 am UTC

Juana Bruja (Saint Cloud, Florida US) Age: 30 - Email


In reality, I do not believe in diety so much as in the living energy of the universe. However, I'm only human, and as a human I benefit from having symbolic representations upon which I can focus. In my instance as a practitioner of Brujeria, I have two main figures, Mayahuel and Guadelupe. Mayahuel came to me in a dream. She is the Aztec goddess of the maguey planet and of the fermented beverages it produces (such as tequila). What I really found in her was the heart of a people, the way her sacred plant lies at the heart of Mexican culture and its gifts the lifeblood of a people. Guadelupe is sometimes controversial among Pagans who do not understand her unifying significance. In one sense, Guadelupe is the Virgin Mary. But in a much greater sense, Guadelupe represents the Great Mother of what we call the New World (which is not new at all). While Mayahuel gives me strength and ability, I call upon Guadelupe for guidance. The best example I have had of her power recently was before, during, and after I had my wisdom teeth extracted. Both Mayahuel and Guadelupe, plus myself, the bruja, make up a feminine trio which is virtually unbeatable.


I've Recently Done Some Soul Searching, And Realized That I Recognize No... Apr 30th. at 9:30:30 am UTC

Artemis Moonshadow (Kfar Saba, Israel) Age: 15 - Email


I've recently done some soul searching, and realized that I recognize no Deity.
I'm an Atheist. Nature herself puts me in Awe, I see the Earth as my home and sacred place. I don't believe any one needs a deity if one truly believes in oneself.
I don't see the Forces of nature and diving, they're just the forces of nature and they're powerful and should be respected, but worshiped, I don't think so.
Everything has a soul or spirit and we are all unifies in the oness of the Universe, but the universe is not God.
As I Witch, I recognize the flowings and movements of nature herself and I use those movements for my own workings. But now when I do rituals I realize I don't need to invite Deity because there is no Deity and all you need are the elements and your own mind in the words of Granny Weatherwax "Headology".
Many Pagans would disagree with me and that's fine, I would probably disagree with many other Pagans.
Any way the way I view my path in life is as an Atheist Witch, I'm probably still considered Pagan because of going according to the movements of Nature.
As for Karma, my life motto has always been whatever goes around comes around equally.
Blessed Be.


I Belive That Deity Is Within As Well As Without. We All... Apr 30th. at 3:32:08 am UTC

Angela McMullen (Montoursville, Pennsylvania US) Age: 22 - Email


I belive that deity is within as well as without. We all have a little bit of divinity within us after all in my belief system They created us. I believe that everything has a spirit. The animals, the trees, the rocks. But I also think that deities are also beings all their own. I had a dream once about the God/dess and in that dream They gave me the name that I use when I speak with Them. It was very vivid and enlightening. The goddess whom I am most drawn to is Diana. I had dreams about Her. I tried studying other pantheons but for some reason she kept calling me back. So in a way They do choose you. I beleive that there is an All and that the gods and goddesses come from that All. Kind of like the All is the parent and the gods and goddesses are the children. This is just my personal belief system and spirituality.

Gentle Breezes

Angie


I Have Had An Experience Recently That Makes Me Believe That Gods... Apr 30th. at 2:42:28 am UTC

Coyotegirl (Quad Cities, Illinois US) Age: 23 - Email


I have had an experience recently that makes me believe that gods can choose you, that is, appear in the form you most need. It might sound flaky, but this is what happened. I was entering a really transitional peroid in my life and was looking for something to kickstart my future. It just so happened that there was a "Women of Egypt" exhibit at our local museum, and being fascinated with all things ancient egyptian, I went the day before it closed. It was an egyptian pagan's delight, but I was particularly mesmerized with the statues of Sekhmet, goddess of war and healing. I felt a presence come to me, and on the way home I got a strong desire to look into the military as a career. For a couple months I researched and turned the idea over in my head. I am now in the process of joining the National Guard and I feel a very strong closeness with Sekhmet who I believe came to lead me in a positive direction just as my life was becoming the most unstable.


I'm Still Searching Myself For The Answer, I Have Been For About... Apr 30th. at 12:35:10 am UTC

Amanda S. (Anoka, Minnesota US) Age: 16


I'm still searching myself for the answer, I have been for about a year now. I have come to the conclusion, and stayed with the belief that there is an all. In this great mass, which is the universe itself, there is the masculine, and the feminine. The God and the Goddess. I believe they themselves are a greater force, rather than simple deities. We see the Goddess in each of us, in the moon above our heads, in the grass beneath our feet. We see the God in all men..and yes, women too, the Sun above, and the wind that sweeps by us. (Don't ask why, I've always seen the wind as a masculine force) THrough the ages, different cultures have taken portions of the Lord and the Lady, and broken them down into separate deities. And, it has always seemed to me, easier to ask of a small part of the Lord or the Lady, a smaller deity, such as Bast or Apollo. I identify most with the goddess Bast, if I must choose a deity. For years, she's captivated me, I never quite knew the reason. But, I feel dedicated to her, and Her statue sits on my small, rather unused altar. ^^


My Gods Are All The Gods (except For A Few Who I... Apr 29th. at 11:28:45 pm UTC

suicidal angel (Porirua, Wellington, New Zealand) Age: 13 - Email


My gods are all the gods (except for a few who I really find evil), but I have a few that I dedicate myself to regularly, sometimes in a sub-consious way. They are Venus, Persephone, and although many pagans may disagree on whether or not she is a godess also Eve, the mother of humanity. As you can see I tend to favour the female's over the males. For a while I tried being both sexes, but It really wasn't working because I seemed to connect far better to the females.
As for whether they chose me or the other way around, neither. I believe that the god/ess that we worship are already within us. All of them are, but some are stronger than others. It really boils down to who you are inside, and whether who you are inside connects more toward one diety or another. I beleive that the gods are not the supreme rulers of the universe, but the embodiements of our belief. The different energies that we have created ourselves. The outward manifestations of daily life.
Some prayers and invocations are ignored most likely because that is the best thing to happen right then. It may be that when the prayer was offered it wasn't offered from the depths of the heart & soul, or that the intentions weren't altogether *good* even if they outwardly appeared so. The hidden concious grabs the prayer and doesn't release it. The other reason may be that the diety you call upon may have a tendency to ignore plea's. If the god/ess is said to do just that it may well have decided to remind us that he/she isn't here just for us.
The Lord and the Lady are both equall to me, but I tend to connect with the godess more because Im female. The Lord however is still strong within me in my spirit, for I am a warrior at heart, and that is a *generally* masculine thing.
The gods are different for everyone, so we each need to look within ourselves to find them before we can find them outside.


Generally, One Can Have A Particular God Or Goddess Who Seems To... Apr 29th. at 10:53:14 pm UTC

Tarostar (Toronto, Ontario CA) Age: 59 - Email


Generally, one can have a particular God or Goddess who seems to embody one's own ideals and attitudes. That Deity is the one who seems to push him or herself into your waking consciousness all through your life at various times.

Mine is Athena. I approach Witchcraft/Magic/Paganism through a cerebral
mode of action and understanding.

I honor the Olympians as archetypes of a healthy Pagan community, but I do not "worship" in the sense most seem to apply from an xtian Past.

Gods need no worship for being Gods; doing their job.

I would rather apply my own mind and occult abilities in the Universe for problems than ask the Gods for help. A Witch should be able to work the warp and woof of metaphysical Time and Space on his/her own, not so?


I've Been Pondering This Question Lately. And The Only Answer I Can... Apr 29th. at 9:42:18 pm UTC

L. (New York, New York US) Age: 20 - Email


I've been pondering this question lately. And the only answer I can come up with is that my deity is an androgynous One. This sounds monotheistic and I am a bit worried about that sometimes, but I find the polarization of supposedly "male" and supposedly "female" energies and deities just as troubling. I would like to work towards working with a pair of androgynous beings, or perhaps to be able to somehow "fragment" that One and work with its many facets, but I'm not there yet. I used to use "Lord" and "Lady, " as opposed to any specific deity names, but even that has become too gender-oriented for this young queer feminist witch. :-) There are many ways to bring the energy we call "spirit" or "deity" or "God/dess" into your rituals and into your life. I simply haven't found the exactly right way yet. I'm getting there, but because I can't accept the way we tend to define "male" and "female" I can't take the distinction in my works. There are different energies out there, but there are more than two, and they reside in all of us.


I've Recently Done Some Soul Searching, And Realised That I Recognize No... Apr 29th. at 1:29:26 pm UTC

Artemis Moonshadow (Kfar Saba, Israel) Age: 15 - Email


I've recently done some soul searching, and realised that I recognize no Deity.
I'm an Atheist. Nature herself puts me in Awe, I see the Earth as my home and sacred place. I don't believe any one needs a deity if one truly believes in oneslef.
I don't see the Forces of nature and diving, they're just the forces of nature and they're powerful and should be respected, but worshiped, I don't think so.
Everything has a soul or spirit and we are all unifies in the oness of the Universe, but the universe is not God.
As I Witch, I recognize the flowings and movements of nature herslef and I use those movements for my own workings. But now when I do rituals I realise I don't need to invite Deity becasue there is no Deity and all you need are the elemnts and your own mind in the words of Granny Weatherwax "Headology".
Many Pagans would disagree with me and that's fine, I would probably disagree with many other Pagans.
Any way the way I view my path in life is as an Atheist Witch, I'm probably still considered Pagan becasue of going according to the movements of Nature.
As for Karma, my life motto has always been whatever goes around comes around eqally.
Blessed Be.


Who Are Your Gods? They Are The Ones You Should Believe In... Apr 29th. at 12:09:29 am UTC

Perrin (Denver, Colorado US) Age: 24


Who Are Your Gods? They are the ones you should believe in, as I follow the black goat, I realize that are a multitude of spiritual beings, that much I think Catholicism has right. I dislike being used for "Good" purposes, as the gods that do this frequently have their own agenda, which does not usually include my well being. As to why some prayers are answered & some not, we will never know the answer to that one, & I can personally vouch that it has nothing to do with how high up you are, I live in mile high Denver, & if altitude had anything to do with it the whole city would have thousands of major miracles every day. Perhaps the answering lies in 2 areas, the person asking, & what type of god the person is praying to. If you pray to an almighty being for something small, or petty, then don't be suprised when He/She ignores you, but if you pray to a God for a specific reason, & that God is able to help, then usually they do, but in either case be careful what you wish for. The classic example of not guarding your tounge is the Leprechaun. Wish for a pot of gold, & you will get one, so the old legends say, but if you don't tell the little guy where you want it, & how much, you might have serious prohlems. I do think that humanity has chased away a lot of the Gods, mostly because a large portion of us don't keep our word, and the rest may not like the overhead power lines we use on a daily basis. We must be wary of being considered fanatics, there are a few amoung those ranks that disturb me, which takes a bit of doing. No one should ever follow a God or a leader blindly, & yet millions do.

Personally I think chance determines fate, fate determines deestiny, and humanities destiny has not been achieved yet, despite 2, 000 years of our shooting for it.


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