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Question of the Week: 59 - 9/11/2001

911 America: Talking Through The Terror...

Talking Through The Terror... And helping each other cope with the tragedies that struck at the very heart of the United States. The Witches Voice has opened up this forum in order that Pagans may express their thoughts on the terrorist attacks that took place in NYC and DC on September 11th. As the full realization of what happened and the toll numbers begin to come in, Americans have many challenges ahead.

What are your thoughts on these incidents? How are you feeling? Feel free to post any magickal workings or other support gatherings planned in your area.

WebNote 9/16/2001: Since we launched this on 911 this forum as become laced with powerful inspiration and critical information, feel free to use the search functions on your left to better define the info you are looking for. Search for your area, famous Pagans, key words etc. Also check Wren's Nest News for the latest news related to our community.

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Dear Pagan Brothers And Sisters: I Recently Sent This To Our Members... Sep 13th. at 5:30:31 pm UTC

Sia (Santa Clara , California US) Age: 43 - Email


Dear Pagan Brothers and Sisters:

I recently sent this to our members here in Californa and to our friends at The Witches Voice. Fritz has since asked me to post this information here for eveyone to use as they see fit. To that end:

Here is some information that you may find helpful in this difficult time.

*** FEMA & FEMA for Kids:

Here is the website from Federal Emergency Management Agency.
http://www.fema.gov/

It has an article on how to talk to kids about disasters:
http://www.fema.gov/nwz01/nwz01_99.htm

and here is the FEMA site just for kids.
This gives children information on preparing for disasters. It even has a
section where kids can talk to other kids about disasters they have experienced:
http://www.fema.gov/kids/

*** TOLERANCE
Here is a group based in Silicon Valley which is dedicated to fighting hate
and promoting tolerance:http://www.tolerance.org
They have several helpful sections, including one about talking to kids
about tragedy and a list of things you can do to fight intolerance,
prejudice and hate.

*** GRIEF COUNSELING
Here is the website for Grief Counseling: It is called Grief Net.
http://www.rivendell.org/

Also, your local TV news websites will have information on inter-faith Prayer Meetings and Community Candlelight Vigils in your area. If you can't get to a specifically Pagan Circle or Ritual Group, this might be of some comfort.

Here at Full Circle we are organizing a Pagan Blood Drive and asking people to make donations to the relief & rescue efforts. If you and your group wish to do the same, you can find information at The Red Cross website: http://www.redcross.org

Take care, everyone

Sia & The Folks at Full Circle
http://www.fullcircleevents.org
"Honor the Past, Celebrate the Present, Create the Future"


I Have Alot Of Thoughts On This Matter. Being From Canada Pretty... Sep 13th. at 5:23:29 pm UTC

Kerri (Windsor, Ontario CA) Age: 19 - Email


I have alot of thoughts on this matter. Being from Canada pretty much anything that happens in the US affects us as well.

Having been at work since 8am on Tuesday I got to hear everything on the radio from the beginning. My initial reaction was one of shock and fear. What did this mean for me? Would my children's history beek mark September 11, 2001 as the beginning of World War III? I hoped not. As the day went on and I heard of other hijacked planes my greatest fear was for my mother who was scheduled to fly from Detroit to St. Louis that day. I feared she might be on one of those planes, as unlikely as that may be. I fought back tears and histerics all day, not just for my own friends and family, but for all the people whowere hurt in this tragedy.

Now that the initial shock has passed, I have had time to think on this matter. The first question to come to mind is why? Why would anyone do this? In retrospect, this is one of the easier ones to answer. Although Americans do not like to admit it, thye have many enemies around the world. And for various reasons each would like to see tragedy strike the heart of capitolism. Secondly, we aks who? That is not so easily answered. My heart goes out to all the arab-americans, and other arabs living in foreign countries around the world. Fingers are too easily pointed at them for tragedies such as this. Please let me stress, do not point your fingers at these innocent people. While arab-extreemists may be responsible for this incident, the men women and children of arab decent around the world are not. Least we forget how quickly fingers pointed to arab terrorists in the wake of the Oklahoma City boming. and that as we all know turned out to be a regular american joe.

My heart goes out to all of the people and their families touched by this horror. But perhaps this week's events will help the US Government to see that the way they deal with other nations, especially ones who are not necessarily friendly, needs to be changed. America must open it's eyes and look at what they are doing to the world. Some say that Tuesday's events were acts of senseless violence and detruction. I say they are not, they happend for a reason. I know many of you will not agree with me on this matter, but America needs to change. Picking and choosing which nations of the world America will help and those it will not, on the basis of capitolism is a shameful activity. The world as a whole needs to change and look towards peace, not war to settle our differences. We need to help eachother, not hurt eachother.

My prayers go out to all on this sad day.

Blessed Be,
Kerri


May I Add My Condolences To Those Already Expressed On These Pages... Sep 13th. at 5:22:15 pm UTC

Moondancer (Paisley, England UK) Age: 30


May I add my condolences to those already expressed on these pages. My heart goes out to those how have lost loved ones and to those who are working tirelessly in your emergency services. I would also ask that we all remember that people of all faiths have been involved in this tragedy and that this is not a time to persecute any one community. We need to draw together and show strength in an peaceful resolution to this crime.
Like many I will be lighting a candle ever night until the last body is recovered, and would ask others to do likewise.
May love and peace shine from your candle's flame.
Blessed Be
Moondancer


Blessings To You And Yours~the Events That Have Transpired In Our... Sep 13th. at 5:18:34 pm UTC

Rhiannon (Carson City, Nevada US) Age: 29 - Email


Blessings to you and yours~

The events that have transpired in our country the last couple of days are absolutely horrendous as we all know and have seen. This is a time that we must stand together with courage and strength, and really get to know our warrior Goddesses/Gods (Go Morgan!). But we also must be there for each other on a continual basis, and embrace the Mother and Father within us all (thou art Goddess/God).

This is not the end folks... yet only a new beginning. This is the beginning of a whole new world. Do not kid yourself for one second that this is over by a long shot. I hear many people discussing how they are not happy or content with the way in which the president is handling the situation. If you listen to his words very carefully, you will see that we, and possibly many other parts of the world are in it for the long haul. You don't hit the Pentagon, aim aircraft at the Whitehouse, or descend on our World Trade Center, and we turn away and go, "oh well...". This is BIG! It is on now... sadly, a war is on... its just a matter of time. And the US will not be the same hereafter... the winds of change have blown hard this time.

What will be brought to us all is not more than we can handle though, or it won't be sent our way. But I as a Witch, and a Military member in the United States Airforce, will do my very best to serve my country, and my Goddess and God. Even though it means I am fighting for your right to disagree with our governments actions, I believe in this freedom that we have here in the US and I refuse! Absolutely REFUSE to lay down and die in fear!

It is so wonderful to drive down the streets of the neighborhoods and see the flags waving proudly in the air! I am really, and truly, understanding for the first time, how really happy and proud I am to be a member of the couragous spirited people in this country we call our U.S. Watching the people volunteer and risk their lives just to pull one, just one person out, is inspiring to see. ... the epitemy of the light of the human spirit!

They set out to rip us apart, but the wonderful light that has come out of this, is the fact is, we Americans, are banning together, and showing what we are made of! SO MOTE IT BE!

Blessed Be Well~
Rhiannon, SSG, U.S.A.F.


I Would Like To Send All My Thoughts And Energy To Those... Sep 13th. at 5:12:41 pm UTC

Salix (Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania US) Age: 32 - Email


I would like to send all my thoughts and energy to those whose lives have been greatly affected by this trial of life. I understand that we must have life lessons on which we can learn but I can't understand why some of these lessons must be so difficult.

I have kept a white candle lighted since the first victim was named... Maybe my thoughts and energy will help those souls find some peace.

If any other of the brothers and sisters know anything else that is needed of me feel free to contact me. If we plan a mass moment of power, please e-mail me and maybe our combine power can send enough energy to protect those who need it and help those souls who have passed.

Bless all of us in this time!


I'm So Sad Over All This.it Was About Two Moons Ago... Sep 13th. at 5:05:44 pm UTC

Pony (Minneapols, Minnesota US) Age: 26


I'm so sad over all this.

It was about two moons ago when I was in NYC, and under the WTC. They could have attacked then.

Thank the Goddess that I live in a land that alows me to be a witch!

I did read my cards that night. Those who did this shall fail in thier war aginst us.

Blessed be.


As Someone Who Is New To Wicca I Ask For The Wisdom... Sep 13th. at 5:04:02 pm UTC

Kim (Hanover, Pennsylvania US) Age: 33 - Email


As someone who is new to Wicca I ask for the wisdom of the elders to help guide me through this horrific time. My feelings are torn, anger, rage, helplessness, and the strong concern for my fellow rescuers in NY and DC.

What I feel most strongly is that this is a time to set aside our religious differences and come together as Americans. This was not an attack on Christians. This was an attack on America. At this time it doesn't matter who you pray to...Just that you pray.

I would like to hear from any solitares, or covens in my area who are planning any magick. Any one else who is feeling like me is welcome to email. Perhaps by talking this out we can make some sense of it. May the Lord and Lady watch over and guide us all.

Bright Blessings,
Kim


I Realize That This Is My Second Posting, Yet I Am Compelled... Sep 13th. at 5:02:03 pm UTC

Noel "Belakane" Collins (Fayetteville, North Carolina US) Age: 21 - Email


I realize that this is my second posting, yet I am compelled to add the following to my previous statement:

*******In light of the recent attacks on those members of our community who are of Middle Eastern descent, I am extending my invitation to not only include fellow pagans, but also these fellow members of our community. MY HOME IS OPEN!!! Should any person feel the need to talk to someone, I AM AVAILABLE! My email is edajk@yahooo.com*******

Love and Light to all,

Belakane


First To All Those Who Have Suffered Loss My Soul Weeps. Derive... Sep 13th. at 4:57:38 pm UTC

Truthseeker (Winter Park, Florida US) Age: 52


First to all those who have suffered loss my soul weeps. derive whatever comfort you can from knowing that people of all faiths aroud are praying in their own manner for you and those you have lost.

My heart has been sickened twice in the past three days. First, by the cowardly attack upon my nation and its people. Second, by those of my fellow Americans who are taking their anger out on inosent fellow citizens who happen to be of Aribic decent or practice the Muslim faith. The outporing of hate aginst those who are as loyal as I is deplorable. We must stand and protect those who are worngly singed out. both with our workings and phisicaly when necessary.

BB Truthseeker


Here In England, As I'm Sure It Was Throughout The World, We... Sep 13th. at 4:37:16 pm UTC

Ian Cliffe (Liskeard, Cornwall, England UK) Age: 25 - Email


Here in England, as I'm sure it was throughout the world, we felt an utter sense of disbelieve and pure shock at the horrific events on Tuesday. I, and the small coven to which I belong offer our heartfelt sympathies not only to the victims and their families but to America as a whole. I can only hope that any magical workings that I, and all witches worldwide, perform will help the worlds authorities to find the people who did this and bring them to justice. I ask witches everywhere to do whatever is in your power to help all the people caught in this terrible tragedy. If we all focus our energies towards the same goals I am sure we can ensure that nothing like this EVER happens again. Let us all work together to make this world safer and above all more peaceful.

May the Goddess watch over all those who have passed on and may she protect and safeguard all those survivors and families who have been affected by this sickening act of terrorism.

Blessed Be to all.

Ian Cliffe


I Know This May Seem The Wrong Time To Be Talking About... Sep 13th. at 4:31:03 pm UTC

Jezzi (State College, Pennsylvania US) Age: 15


I know this may seem the wrong time to be talking about disunity, but doesnt it seem that a lot of religious organizations are using this to benifit them?


To Give Credit Where Credit Is Due: The Poem That Appears On... Sep 13th. at 4:27:24 pm UTC

Rahel (Jerusalem, Israel) Age: 36 - Email


To give credit where credit is due: the poem that appears on the Statue of Liberty base, "The New Colossus, " was written by Emma Lazarus.

We in Jerusalem are walking around in shock and grief and great pain. Many of us are from NYC; many of us have family and friends there. I remember a school trip to the WTC as a child, back when only one of the towers was completed. I can't believe they're gone, that so many people were killed so cruelly.

Next week is the Jewish New Year, when we pray for a good year and for Divine compassion. I ask myself: how shall I pray for Divine compassion now? The words will stick in my heart.

Spirit help us all.

-- Rahel


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