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Question of the Week: 59 - 9/11/2001

911 America: Talking Through The Terror...

Talking Through The Terror... And helping each other cope with the tragedies that struck at the very heart of the United States. The Witches Voice has opened up this forum in order that Pagans may express their thoughts on the terrorist attacks that took place in NYC and DC on September 11th. As the full realization of what happened and the toll numbers begin to come in, Americans have many challenges ahead.

What are your thoughts on these incidents? How are you feeling? Feel free to post any magickal workings or other support gatherings planned in your area.

WebNote 9/16/2001: Since we launched this on 911 this forum as become laced with powerful inspiration and critical information, feel free to use the search functions on your left to better define the info you are looking for. Search for your area, famous Pagans, key words etc. Also check Wren's Nest News for the latest news related to our community.

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It Feels So Surreal.personally, I'm Not Usually So Shocked By Reseaving... Sep 13th. at 6:46:10 am UTC

Pajususi / WillowWolf (JyvŠskylŠ) Age: 0 - Email


It feels so surreal.

Personally, I'm not usually so shocked by reseaving news like this, but an act like this makes a huge difference. As a Finnish, a Europian person I'm partly glad I wasn't there and partly unbelieavably sad and furstrated, because I can't help people in need across the ocean.

It just makes me so, so sad. I give all my loving and if possible, spiritual support to help the victims, their families and loved ones, and anyone who feel the great sadness and loss such as I do. Things like this should not happen at all, anywhere!

Mother Earth, give us power and strenght to survive through this.


I Live In Downtown Brooklyn, 3 Miles From Ground Zero. I Went... Sep 13th. at 6:40:36 am UTC

Beth (Brooklyn, New York US) Age: 25


I live in downtown Brooklyn, 3 miles from ground zero. I went to the Promenade today. It's in Brooklyn Heights and overlooks the Manhattan skyline. It was so weird to not see the twin towers there. We took pictures on the promenade after our wedding, sunset with the skyline behind us. odd....

I felt like I HAD TO go to the Promenade- like I had to see it with my own eyes, or just plain ol "bear witness"

There were about 200 people there at 9 this morning. Everyone was chatting and just the whole "New Yawk" veneer was gone. Common experience does that I guess... I was sitting on a bench and the people around me were all talking and it just seemed so natural for all of us to be chatting- everyone had coffee too. it was like, well, a coffee-klatch. NY is like this once a year: new years eve and people are still curt with each other as they rush to their parties.

One of my first thoughts was of the NYC Pagan Pride Event, of which I'm the Entertainment Coordinator- we were supposed to have the event in Battery park, which was literally in the shadow of the WTC. I was there Friday to pick up the permit. Odd... The site was picked because there's an awesome view of the Statue of Liberty. So here are the words forever associated with her:

The New Colossus

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A Mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp'" cries she
With silent lips "Give me your tired your poor
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of Your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"


I Was Shocked And Sickned When I Heard. My Mum Came Home... Sep 13th. at 6:17:14 am UTC

MerRua (Mayo, Ireland) Age: 19


I was shocked and sickned when i heard. My mum came home and said turn on the television the world trade centre has been attached. Then i saw the pictures. I could not believe it. So many people..

Then i heard about the pentagon and saw the pictures of the second tower being hit. Then i started to worry for a relation working in sears tower. What if that was next?. The shock in Ireland was unbeliveable. Everyone nearly has relations over there. New york is a second home to so many Irish.

Why did this happen? who had lost so much hope that this happened..?
That evening when the attacts happened in afganistan, i remember the worry. the americans have attached.. they have lost control.. People worried until the news came it wasn't the US.

The dead have to be buried and mourned and the lost and hurt need to be comforted. Let there be no more victims and let justice be done.


Goddess Help Us All... Sep 13th. at 5:41:37 am UTC

Eric A. Weiss (Nashua, New Hampshire US) Age: 49 - Email


Goddess help us all


I Think Everyone Will Agree With The Words From One Of My... Sep 13th. at 5:25:02 am UTC

Edward Potts (Manchester, England UK) Age: 20 - Email


I think everyone will agree with the words from one of my favourite songs, 'Fault The Police' by Corporate Avenger:

"I don't cry when a terrorist dies, 'cause they probably deserved it.
Went around with a bomb and a gun and they goddamn fugged with everyone.
Enforce rules, made by fools, violence and fear their tools.
Bomb souls to the sky and a mother she cries as she watches her babies die."


Please, Also: Goddess Bless And Protect All The Animal Companions Who Will... Sep 13th. at 5:17:49 am UTC

Pagan Mother (Palo Alto, California US) Age: 38


Please, also: Goddess Bless and protect all the animal companions who will not be able to understand why the people who were the center and beloved family of their lives are not coming home - Please let all those who may have been waiting alone at home, perhaps unknown to other humans, be found and taken care of.

"Pets" understand love. They love us. We are their precious family. My usually not-very-demonstrative dog has been snuggling close and licking and licking my hands as I cry and hug my husband, children and dogs....

Our dogs always participate with us in Circle. They KNOW.

Blessed Be


Merry Meet My Family,i Know I Am Not Going To Be... Sep 13th. at 5:15:36 am UTC

sareen dea (tucson, Arizona US) Age: 38 - Email


Merry Meet My Family,

I know I am NOT going to be able to say anything many of you have already said.
We are ALL Hurting for these people. I do want to express my feelings on a few things though.
Before our US Government Acts Impulsively and to FAST, I pray that they THINK about what MAY/PROBABLY will happen as a RESULT of its action/s if they do NOT PLAN and ACT in a way so as to NOT have this same mass murder happen to the USA again. I do not want them to attack us again in response to whatever we do to them because of this terrorism to us. I feel strongly that our USA should FIND the Spirochete who PLANNED and Headed this Masacre. And then, ONLY then, HE/SHE will be PUNISHED.

We do not need to HURT more innocent people just to "GET-BACK" at the WRONG/ or Innocent people.
Do You agree?

Brighter Blessings*
Raziel


I Hear The Souls Of Those Poor People Screaming.....i Watch The... Sep 13th. at 4:06:03 am UTC

Artemis (Danbury, Connecticut US) Age: 21 - Email


I hear the souls of those poor people screaming.....I watch the news and can't believe my eyes....it's horrible....yet I can't turn away from it....all I see is the towers collapsing, the people jumping or falling out of the crumbling building, all I can think is thank the Gods everyone I know is safe, justice should be served and the three fold law will get to whomever is responsible for this tragedy...The first thing I thought of when I heard the news is that this was like Pearl Harbor, but worse...more people gone....mostly civilians, innocent people just doing their jobs, mothers, fathers, grandparents, sisters, brothers, sons, daughters, friends, etc. I wish this was all a bad dream. That day I lit three candles....green, white and red.....green for healing, white for protection and red for love and courage....I blessed them and sent their energies to those who needed this and let the candles burn down.

I send my condolences to those who have lost a loved one or have one that is missing or injured....may the Lady and Lord take you into their arms to console you.

Blessed Be to


Horror,anger,sadness,sickness Disbelief,compassion,pride,love Death,life,destruction,recovery... Sep 13th. at 3:31:22 am UTC

Brandy Z. (Fort Myers/Lehigh Acres, Florida US) Age: 25 - Email


Horror, anger, sadness, sickness

Disbelief, compassion, pride, love

Death, life, destruction, recovery, faith

Hope, unity, insanity, sanity, fear

Strength, weakness, looking over our shoulders

Hugs, tears, kisses, fists

Chaos, calm, eerie, support

Denial, ignorance, patriotism, symbolism

radical, passive, suicide, fire, smoke, bodies

numb, numb, numb, numb, numb

I can't quite put what I wanted to say in order, so I just typed the words that popped into my head.


Yes, Other Parts Of Our Readings Also Agreed With Jenab's (below). And... Sep 13th. at 3:24:37 am UTC

Pagan Mother (Palo Alto, California US) Age: 38


Yes, other parts of our readings also agreed with JenAb's (below). And the ultimate long-term outcome unfortunately will be not the most peaceful world (well, we had that already before). BUT no WW3 for now, or so say the cards. Thank Goddess.


Horned Lord Watch Over Us.eternal Goddess Be With The Dead And... Sep 13th. at 3:19:58 am UTC

Shayde (Martinez, California US) Age: 20 - Email


Horned Lord watch over us.
Eternal Goddess be with the dead and dying.

Protect your children from themselves.
Protect your children from suspicion that makes fools
see fellow citizens as the enemy. May the stakes and bonfires
of the past remind us of the wages of fear.

Brothers and Sisters I love you all.
Send money, blood, and magic to those who need it.
When my seven day mourning candle burns out, may
the world be a safe place again.

Horned Lord watch over us.
Eternal Goddess be with the dead and dying.
Brothers and Sisters I love you all.


I Have Friends And Family Living And Working In And Around Manhattan... Sep 13th. at 3:09:34 am UTC

Pagan Mother (Palo Alto, California US) Age: 38


I have friends and family living and working in and around Manhattan. All of them who haven't yet, I pray Kuan Yin they PLEASE call or email soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Last night (9/11) in an emergency-organized Vigil/Circle here in the South San Francisco Bay Area, while burning incense for all the innocent crying souls, we saw *A PLANE* flying overhead, due East - we think it was likely additional rescue/safety personnel from California going to help, as the news media had been reporting. We sent them energy and wished them God/dess speed. God/dess Bless our nation's REAL heroes - those who risk (and often lose) their lives to try to help others.

We did divination work last night, as well. The readings indicated our Magick as Pagans is a strong tool at our disposal in dealing with this situation. It is important to use it wisely and well - let's try and keep innocents everywhere from being harmed anymore.

Readings also indicate the future is precarious for our children, and their children. OUR CHILDREN ARE THE FUTURE. Lets make sure they have a world in which they can grow up safe!!!! We CAN do something about it, if we are careful and wise. USE YOUR MAGICK!!! Use it well.

I understand that anger and hatred are in the forefront of many minds, but we also need the Wisdom to see who and why to be angry against. Pagans themselves know persecution - and should be among the first to realize that it is quite likely many Arab and Islamic Americans also died in this catastrophe, and that their American communites are in no way responsible. Don't take it out on them!!!

The perpetrators were betraying their own professed religion when they committed such a hate crime against our nation. They are the lowest form of life imaginable. I wouldn't want to have THEIR Karma on my soul!! I must admit we left THEIR souls OUT of our prayers entirely.

Goddess bless those all who died, Goddess support all those who must live without their loved ones, Goddess bless the children, and Goddess Bless us all.


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