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911 America: Talking Through The Terror...

Talking Through The Terror... And helping each other cope with the tragedies that struck at the very heart of the United States. The Witches Voice has opened up this forum in order that Pagans may express their thoughts on the terrorist attacks that took place in NYC and DC on September 11th. As the full realization of what happened and the toll numbers begin to come in, Americans have many challenges ahead.

What are your thoughts on these incidents? How are you feeling? Feel free to post any magickal workings or other support gatherings planned in your area.

WebNote 9/16/2001: Since we launched this on 911 this forum as become laced with powerful inspiration and critical information, feel free to use the search functions on your left to better define the info you are looking for. Search for your area, famous Pagans, key words etc. Also check Wren's Nest News for the latest news related to our community.

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I Feel An Abiding Sense Of Dread That This Sort Of Thing... Sep 12th. at 11:56:12 pm UTC

Moon Lynx (Toronto, Ontario CA) Age: 38


I feel an abiding sense of dread that this sort of thing could actually happen. I am certainly not alone in this feeling. Any people I have spoken with yesterday and today have expressed feelings of sorrow. But you don't even have to speak to people to know how they're feeling, because it is in the atmosphere. It is true that some very evil people have done this, but please remember that people have also come out in droves to help out. The glory and horror of people, who can sink to the depths or soar to the heights. We are all of us people.

The Lord and Lady be with you all...


To My Brother And Sisters Of The Craft:yesterdays Events Are So... Sep 12th. at 11:39:31 pm UTC

Bruce (Monterey, California US) Age: 55


To my brother and sisters of the Craft:
Yesterdays events are so terrible that no words can describe them. We have most likey lost 10, 000 + of our fellow citizens in the blink of an eye. As a VietNam vetern I seen death and destruction on a large scale BUT NEVER anything this horrific and immense in such a short moment. It's mind boggeling!!! My heart is devastated. We as a people are under attack by crazed, religious, fundamentalists that have absolutely NO REGUARD for life of any kind. They kill there own people, men woman and children with relish. They wish to impose there perverted will upon us because of what and who we are. We are in peril of loosing some of our freedoms already. Our Goddess gives us the right of self defense in what EVER manner it takes. I know I will be blasted for this but its time for vengence as a means of defense of our civilized peoples that were slaughtered in the sky and ground. We KNOW who these groups are and WHO harbors them. It time to root them out where every they may be and wipe them out to the last person. It's time to protect all peace loving people of the world.


I'm Sitting In Front Of My Computer As I Usually Am Everynight... Sep 12th. at 11:20:01 pm UTC

marie (richmond, Virginia US) Age: 19 - Email


I'm sitting in front of my computer as I usually am everynight, usually doing homework or maybe looking around on the internet looking for something to do. Today its different. I find myslef sifting through sites listing the names of survivors trying to locate friends of my family who have not been accounted for.For a brief moment I thought I had lost a very close uncle and other members of my family. Thankfully I didnt and I only wish that everyone could have beena s lucky. I dont understand how something like this can happen here, in our country. It doesnt make any sense to me. One day we are going about our lives thinking we are totally safe because we are in america and the nest day wonder when the next jet is going to drop out of the sky or when our president is going to declare war. I was so young when we were involved in Desert Storm that I dont really recall what the feeling was like but I think it was no where near what the feeling is like today. It is so scary to think that things could get a lot worse adn if they keep going to way they have been, they just might. I wish I could go to sleep and wake up and think that this is all just a dream, that it never really happened. How cna two buildings, two beautiful strong buildings that are a symbol of a great city be destroyed in less than a few moments. How can there be thousands of people dead on a very small little place. For those who have never been to New York or who may have never been to the world trade center complex, the surrounding area is absolutly beautiful but it is a small area. It is so scary to think that there are thousands of lost souls there. It is truely one of the scariest things I have ever had to see. For all those who have lived through war and have seen things, It must be agony to know that they may have to live through something like this again. A little closer to my home, the pentagon was attacked in teh same manner and for the first time, I am absolutly frghtened to live between Washington DC and Norfolk, the location of one of the biggest military bases in the world. No where is safe anymore. I am so scared. If anyone wishes to contact me, feel free. Blessed be......


When I Came Home From Work Last Night, I Watched The Television... Sep 12th. at 11:07:52 pm UTC

Crylla (Chino Valley, Arizona US) Age: 49


When I came home from work last night, I watched the television reports in shock, feeling helpless, yet moved to focus my energies on healing this terrible gash in my country's heart. My Muse guided me to write the following and I want to share it with you:

REMEMBER.
Words cannot reverse the clock to before this day began.

Words cannot return those lives that lay buried underneath tons of twisted metal and stone that once was lower Manhattan.

Words cannot remain unspoken, empty as they feel coming from my mouth, but,

Words are all I have to comfort those who grieve.

Words are all I have to give to those who have survived.

Words are all I have to say how deeply, deeply I share the pain and shock and hope, yes hope, that the citizens in this great country WILL NOT be crushed by this senseless series of terrorist attacks.

Remember this day. Remember September 11th. Remember 9-1-1 2-0-0-1

May the Light of the Great Spirit guide us through this gloomy time.


As I Take A Moment To Collect My Thoughts, And Try To... Sep 12th. at 11:02:40 pm UTC

Noel "Belakane" Collins (Fayetteville , North Carolina US) Age: 21 - Email


As I take a moment to collect my thoughts, and try to shake the sleepiness from my head, I hear my phone ringing off the hook.....terrorists have hit the United States. Immediately, a tremendous sadness wells up in my soul, followed by a hint of fear...terrorists? Here? As I turn on my TV, I am jolted awake by the pictures and videos of the Trade Center and Pentagon in flames...and my heart aches for answers.

I step outside to retrieve my newspaper and my attention is drawn to the holly tree growing just below our front steps. As I take a moment to hug this tree spirit whom I have recently become aquainted with, the tears begin to flow...I feel the earth below me crying, the pain and anguish flows through me like lightning, and though I know that my canine companion cannot understand a news broadcast, I can see it in his face, he knows....

2 days now I have spent hiding my sorrow behind a mask of bravery, unable to restrain my tears when I am by myself. Though I do not personally know anyone in the areas attacked, my heart goes out to all of the friends and families of these people, and I am doing my part to help. I have signed up to donate blood, and though my mate faints at the site of blood, I am dragging him along as well. I am also donating clothing, shoes, and blankets to my local red cross.

*****NOTE***** Also, since there are so few Pagans in the Fayetteville area, I
am hoping that we can all come together to help each other in this tragedy, my home is open, should any of the pagans in my neighborhood need someone to talk to. My email edajk@yahoo.com

In closing, I pray that the god/goddess help us in our time of need, not only for us to heal, but also for us to come together and help each other. Love, light, and deepest blessings to all.....--Belakane


Fear Will Not Prevail!it Only Takes A Small Amount Of Those... Sep 12th. at 11:00:44 pm UTC

Jane (Baton Rouge, Louisiana US) Age: 35 - Email


Fear will not prevail!
It only takes a small amount of those willing to begin building up instead of tearing down.
It's easier to destroy, to tear down, to condemn. It takes knowing who YOU are as a person, the energies you can send through your thoughts, your actions, your words! We are a nation in mourning, we have to go through each emotional step to work towards a positive future.
Fear will not prevail!
These feelings, these raw emotions must be acknowledged for what they are, dealt with for what they are (in the time it takes for each one) and then channel that energy, that force for the good of all. Not just in our country, our world!
Fear will not prevail!

I, too, am working on my mixed EMOTIONS
I, too, am hurting in my HEART, my MIND, my SOUL, my SPIRIT
I, too, am concerned for all, their SAFETY and demand JUSTICE
I, too, am in RAGE and know it's necessary to channel that energy for GOOD
I, too, am sending HEALING and HELPFUL energies
I, too, am praying for PEACE, also knowing the possibility of WAR

Fear will not prevail!

These are just my thoughts, and as all people, we are ENTITLED to them. I ask my fellow sisters and brothers to respect each one of us, knowing that this small step of expressing ourselves is one of the important steps towards moving ahead, healing...walking forward to a POSITIVE, BRIGHTER future! There is nothing to be feared from the darkness, you aren't EVER alone....EVER!! Your FAMILY is larger than you can possibly comprehend, draw upon the strength of this family, REST when you need it, you will always be comforted, ONLY if you allow that comfort into your life. WORK past the rage, the anger, the hate and REMEMBER you ARE LOVED! My heart goes out to the families of the victims, the survivors, to all who are affected by what happened on September 11, 2001.


Friends,pass This Along As Far And Wide As You Can.let... Sep 12th. at 10:57:31 pm UTC

angeleno (The Road) Age: 54 - Email


Friends,

Pass this along as far and wide as you can.

Let every American Witch who can cast a shield spell around North America at Dark Moon.

And for those of you with warrior blood, at Diana's bow let us strike our enemies in whatever way amenable to you.

Witches exist to protect and serve their people. Let's get busy.

Angeleno


I Feel Like A Hole Has Been Ripped Into My Soul And... Sep 12th. at 10:52:36 pm UTC

Tara (Dallas, Texas US) Age: 28


I feel like a hole has been ripped into my soul and it bleeds every day for those lost and their loved ones. I have to fight back the tears when the stangest things remind me of it all. I can't say I am shock but in mourning. I had just gotten my 18 month old son out of bed when I turned on the news and saw what had happened just a few moments before. I stood there for a moment while it sunk in and then sat on the couch and prayed. My son ran around playing as usual waiting for me to start breakfast. I couldn't. After several tears and attempts at comprehending I got up, moving purely by force of habit, to start the day. I have done nothing but think of this and gone through many emotions to end up with the same question over and over again...WHY? I am in Texas and it feels like I am there living in the devastation and pain.
But on the lighter side when I play with my son and am able to laugh and chase him around while he lights up the room with giggles I remember that life is precious and to enjoy this while I have it. I don't know how I am going to explain this to him when he gets older. How do you tell your child that human beings harbor the potential for the worst kind of evil to ever exist? I fear for him. I know the world goes on and in time the wounds will heal but the scar will remain. Tonight and for the next 9 nights I will focus my energies to help heal those that need it.


Like The Rest Of You My Heart Is Deeply Wounded By The... Sep 12th. at 10:50:47 pm UTC

Abby Willowroot (Benicia, California US) Age: 56 - Email


Like the rest of you my heart is deeply wounded by the suffering in NY, DC & PA.

Offerning this Sacred Altar for people of All Faiths, a place to reflect. pray and meditate in a wuiet harmonious space online.
www.spiralgoddess.com/tribute.html

There is also an Altar especially for Firefighters and Police Officers at www.spiralgoddess.com/911.html

Goddess Blessings,
Abby


I Cannot Express My Sorrow, And Feelings Of Loss, For All The... Sep 12th. at 10:48:33 pm UTC

kekiut (old town) Age: 34 - Email


I cannot express my sorrow, and feelings of loss, for all the people who lost loved ones in this horrible situation.
i lay on my bed gazing into the night sky and prayed to the gods that perhaps somday there will be a world without war.
where men and women brothers and sisters all a part of each other can live together in peace and love and harmony.
i pray for the souls of all who have crossed over, that they will find peace and rest.
to those who have lost family and friends i pray the strength of the great mother gia and hunter lord of the wildwood, will sheild and bring you love and peace.
to they who fight daily for peace and never give up the struggle, i pray they find courage beyond the horror that is hate and fear.
the circle is ever turning, i pray for all the workers and volunters, people shaken and moved to assist those in new york and washington, i ask for strength for them.
may all find hope and love as the wounds heal.
raven


Hello All,well, A Few People Said They Were Interested, So Here... Sep 12th. at 10:40:42 pm UTC

Jenifer Paulousky (Montreal, Quebec CA) Age: 20 - Email


Hello all,

Well, a few people said they were interested, so here it goes:

"Open circle for peace and compassion (in response to the terrorist attacks in the US)"

Description: Done in a Wiccan eclectic format, and open to on-the-spot modifications as per participant's suggestions, this ritual is to invoke peace (to prevent the possibility of war, and to give peace to all those affected by these horrific attacks) and compassion (to awaken it in the hearts of those that would wish/rejoice in such harm, so that they never consider doing this again, and to send good energy and caring to all those that have been affected by this). I propose a talking stick discussion first, so that everyone can share their feelings/experiences if they so wish, along with anything they might want to add to the ritual, and then doing the main part of the ritual, the invocation of peace and compassion. No special experience is needed, no specials beliefs either, as people from all creeds have been affected, this will be an especially inclusive ritual. The focus will be on content (our good intentions, energy, healing) rather than pure esthetic form. It will be a chance to gather together to share and do what we can to help, as a community, and to support those of us that have been especially affected also. It will be hodge-podge bilingual, everyone will understand what is going on, whether unilingual or bilingual, and people are invited speak in whatever language they feel more comfortable.

When: Saturday, September 15th, meeting time at 4:30, ritual begins at 5pm

Where: on the Mont-Royal. Meet at 4:30 at the benches near the steps below the big angel statue where people usually meet for tamtams, just off Parc avenue, half a block below Mont-Royal Street, we'll go find a quieter spot around 5pm. You can get there by taking the 80 bus North from Place-Des-Arts metro.

How to spot us: I'll be there, wearing jeans and a long sleeved t-shirt (black sleeves, dark grey body), and I have long brown hair, for those of you that don't know me.

What to bring: a snack to share with others for the communal "feast" that will follow. It will be especially useful to ground us afterwards.

Who is welcome: everyone. This ritual is not sponsored by any group, being rather impromptu, but absolutely all pagan-friendly people of good will are welcome, whether this is their first ritual or whether they are highly experienced. The focus is helping, anyone can do that.

N.B.: This ritual will not be the place to focus on retribution or similar aspects, the focus of this circle is to help, if there is a need for it perhaps someone else can offer another rite for any other purpose.


Hi, Myself And Several Of My Wiccan Friends Are Going To Form... Sep 12th. at 10:39:33 pm UTC

Graceria Soul-Fire (Oxford, Massachusetts US) Age: 22 - Email


Hi,

Myself and several of my Wiccan friends are going to form a circle to send healing energies out to all the victims and their families and to send guiding energies out to the rescue teams to help them find the survivors. The thing is, we are doing this across the country and so the circle will be more of a visionary thing. I'm trying to get as many people as possible to make the energy as strong as possible. Once we have enough people, we'll work out an exact time to perform this. If you are at all interrested in helping out, please e-mail me at Graceria@yahoo.com and I'll give you the details.

Shade and Sweetwater and Blessed Be,

Graceria Soul-Fire


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