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Question of the Week: 59 - 9/11/2001

911 America: Talking Through The Terror...

Talking Through The Terror... And helping each other cope with the tragedies that struck at the very heart of the United States. The Witches Voice has opened up this forum in order that Pagans may express their thoughts on the terrorist attacks that took place in NYC and DC on September 11th. As the full realization of what happened and the toll numbers begin to come in, Americans have many challenges ahead.

What are your thoughts on these incidents? How are you feeling? Feel free to post any magickal workings or other support gatherings planned in your area.

WebNote 9/16/2001: Since we launched this on 911 this forum as become laced with powerful inspiration and critical information, feel free to use the search functions on your left to better define the info you are looking for. Search for your area, famous Pagans, key words etc. Also check Wren's Nest News for the latest news related to our community.

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I Feel Like A Hole Has Been Ripped Into My Soul And... Sep 12th. at 10:52:36 pm EDT

Tara (Dallas, Texas US) Age: 28


I feel like a hole has been ripped into my soul and it bleeds every day for those lost and their loved ones. I have to fight back the tears when the stangest things remind me of it all. I can't say I am shock but in mourning. I had just gotten my 18 month old son out of bed when I turned on the news and saw what had happened just a few moments before. I stood there for a moment while it sunk in and then sat on the couch and prayed. My son ran around playing as usual waiting for me to start breakfast. I couldn't. After several tears and attempts at comprehending I got up, moving purely by force of habit, to start the day. I have done nothing but think of this and gone through many emotions to end up with the same question over and over again...WHY? I am in Texas and it feels like I am there living in the devastation and pain.
But on the lighter side when I play with my son and am able to laugh and chase him around while he lights up the room with giggles I remember that life is precious and to enjoy this while I have it. I don't know how I am going to explain this to him when he gets older. How do you tell your child that human beings harbor the potential for the worst kind of evil to ever exist? I fear for him. I know the world goes on and in time the wounds will heal but the scar will remain. Tonight and for the next 9 nights I will focus my energies to help heal those that need it.


Like The Rest Of You My Heart Is Deeply Wounded By The... Sep 12th. at 10:50:47 pm EDT

Abby Willowroot (Benicia, California US) Age: 56 - Email


Like the rest of you my heart is deeply wounded by the suffering in NY, DC & PA.

Offerning this Sacred Altar for people of All Faiths, a place to reflect. pray and meditate in a wuiet harmonious space online.
www.spiralgoddess.com/tribute.html

There is also an Altar especially for Firefighters and Police Officers at www.spiralgoddess.com/911.html

Goddess Blessings,
Abby


I Cannot Express My Sorrow, And Feelings Of Loss, For All The... Sep 12th. at 10:48:33 pm EDT

kekiut (old town) Age: 34 - Email


I cannot express my sorrow, and feelings of loss, for all the people who lost loved ones in this horrible situation.
i lay on my bed gazing into the night sky and prayed to the gods that perhaps somday there will be a world without war.
where men and women brothers and sisters all a part of each other can live together in peace and love and harmony.
i pray for the souls of all who have crossed over, that they will find peace and rest.
to those who have lost family and friends i pray the strength of the great mother gia and hunter lord of the wildwood, will sheild and bring you love and peace.
to they who fight daily for peace and never give up the struggle, i pray they find courage beyond the horror that is hate and fear.
the circle is ever turning, i pray for all the workers and volunters, people shaken and moved to assist those in new york and washington, i ask for strength for them.
may all find hope and love as the wounds heal.
raven


Hello All,well, A Few People Said They Were Interested, So Here... Sep 12th. at 10:40:42 pm EDT

Jenifer Paulousky (Montreal, Quebec CA) Age: 20 - Email


Hello all,

Well, a few people said they were interested, so here it goes:

"Open circle for peace and compassion (in response to the terrorist attacks in the US)"

Description: Done in a Wiccan eclectic format, and open to on-the-spot modifications as per participant's suggestions, this ritual is to invoke peace (to prevent the possibility of war, and to give peace to all those affected by these horrific attacks) and compassion (to awaken it in the hearts of those that would wish/rejoice in such harm, so that they never consider doing this again, and to send good energy and caring to all those that have been affected by this). I propose a talking stick discussion first, so that everyone can share their feelings/experiences if they so wish, along with anything they might want to add to the ritual, and then doing the main part of the ritual, the invocation of peace and compassion. No special experience is needed, no specials beliefs either, as people from all creeds have been affected, this will be an especially inclusive ritual. The focus will be on content (our good intentions, energy, healing) rather than pure esthetic form. It will be a chance to gather together to share and do what we can to help, as a community, and to support those of us that have been especially affected also. It will be hodge-podge bilingual, everyone will understand what is going on, whether unilingual or bilingual, and people are invited speak in whatever language they feel more comfortable.

When: Saturday, September 15th, meeting time at 4:30, ritual begins at 5pm

Where: on the Mont-Royal. Meet at 4:30 at the benches near the steps below the big angel statue where people usually meet for tamtams, just off Parc avenue, half a block below Mont-Royal Street, we'll go find a quieter spot around 5pm. You can get there by taking the 80 bus North from Place-Des-Arts metro.

How to spot us: I'll be there, wearing jeans and a long sleeved t-shirt (black sleeves, dark grey body), and I have long brown hair, for those of you that don't know me.

What to bring: a snack to share with others for the communal "feast" that will follow. It will be especially useful to ground us afterwards.

Who is welcome: everyone. This ritual is not sponsored by any group, being rather impromptu, but absolutely all pagan-friendly people of good will are welcome, whether this is their first ritual or whether they are highly experienced. The focus is helping, anyone can do that.

N.B.: This ritual will not be the place to focus on retribution or similar aspects, the focus of this circle is to help, if there is a need for it perhaps someone else can offer another rite for any other purpose.


Hi, Myself And Several Of My Wiccan Friends Are Going To Form... Sep 12th. at 10:39:33 pm EDT

Graceria Soul-Fire (Oxford, Massachusetts US) Age: 22 - Email


Hi,

Myself and several of my Wiccan friends are going to form a circle to send healing energies out to all the victims and their families and to send guiding energies out to the rescue teams to help them find the survivors. The thing is, we are doing this across the country and so the circle will be more of a visionary thing. I'm trying to get as many people as possible to make the energy as strong as possible. Once we have enough people, we'll work out an exact time to perform this. If you are at all interrested in helping out, please e-mail me at Graceria@yahoo.com and I'll give you the details.

Shade and Sweetwater and Blessed Be,

Graceria Soul-Fire


Dear Brothers And Sisters:i Am Also Horrorfied By The Events In... Sep 12th. at 10:36:26 pm EDT

Thora Wodenshild (Texarkana, Texas US) Age: 43 - Email


Dear Brothers and Sisters:
I am also horrorfied by the events in New York and Washington. I'm old enough to remember the Cuban Missile Crisis, and the terror it inflicted upon the entire world. What I saw yesterday on the news left me sobbing on the floor. I can't imagine the horror those people must have endured during their last minutes on this side of the veil, but my family and I lit candles and prayed. I pray that those responsible will be caught and punished. I pray that something like this never happens again. Hopefully healing will come soon, for all of us.
So mote it be
Thora Wodenshild
Deputy WARD Director
Texas


I Ask You All, Regardless Of Your Faith, Pray To Whatever God... Sep 12th. at 10:32:53 pm EDT

Dreamweaver (South Bend, Indiana US) Age: 34 - Email


I ask you all, regardless of your faith, pray to whatever God or Gods you hold dear for those who died or were injured. We will be doing the same. I am numb with horror and anger and fear. I am hearing of the people whom the FBI is investigating as I write this. I hope beyond hope that we find all those responsible for this act of war. I say they are all Hostis Humani Generis. For those who don't know Latin, that means Enemies of Humanity. Thus I name those who perpetrated these horrors and all who helped them plan it. May Kali find them and treat them as they deserve.


I Think It Is Important For Everyone To Know That Going Out... Sep 12th. at 10:32:45 pm EDT

CrystalPixie (Springfield, Illinois US) Age: 18 - Email


I think it is important for everyone to know that going out to donate blood all at once may not be a good idea. Blood expires after 40 or so days, please everyone we need to keep the donations constant, not all at once.

Blessings and prayers.


I Cant Understand Anything That Has Happened. I Cant Understand Why Anyone... Sep 12th. at 10:32:19 pm EDT

Phoenixfire (Heidrick, Kentucky US) Age: 16


I cant understand anything that has happened. I cant understand why anyone would kill so many innocent people. I feel The Goddess weeping. She feels the pain of so much lost life. My heart goes out to anyone who has lost a loved one due to this tragedy. I pray that those who are responsible will be punished, and that a full scale war is avoided. No more death.

May The Lord And Lady Bless Us All.


It Was 7:30am In Sydney Australia. My Roommate Awoke Me And... Sep 12th. at 10:19:14 pm EDT

Bohemian Witch (Sydney, South Australia AU) Age: 19 - Email


it was 7:30am in sydney australia. my roommate awoke me and bekoned me into the living room where cnn was reporting the terrorist attacks in the states. i couldn't believe it. and now, 24 hours later, i still can't believe it.
the whole thing seems to be playing itself like some sorta hoax/spoofy type of movie. but in reality, people are dead. innocent people are dead.

on the night of 12th september 2001, i lit up my living room with candles. it was my small ray of hope for the world, that shone out of my sydney city apartment over looking central station and chinatown.
i lit incense out on my balcony - a tribute to the disater.

i am still in shock and my mind is full of things that are hard to express.

i suppose, i am like everyone else, we are all asking ourselves the same question.
"how could something like this happen?"

this was an act of terror by humans, people filled with hate and evil have killed other people.can someone make some sense of this crisis??? i certainly can't!

i pray that the maddness ends soon.

blessed be


My Thanks And Gratitude To Our International Brothers And Sisters Who Have... Sep 12th. at 10:01:36 pm EDT

Peg Aloi (Cambridge, Massachusetts US) Age: 37 - Email


My thanks and gratitude to our international brothers and sisters who have expressed their sorrow; from Australia to Britain to France to Denmark, and everywhere else.

Like everyone else I am still in shock. I live here at Ground Zero; where the first hijackings began. Now there is FBI activity and suspects being seized at hotels in the area.

My coven did an intense working for strength and courage and light. I went into the temple shaking, literally, from delayed shock. Not to mention anger, and fear. I felt very drained afterwards. I went home and finally slept, after lying on the couch watching Peter Jennings, amazed he was still covering the story after so many hours. In times of such horro I suppose we take cmfort in odd places. Peter was my rock, you could say.

I understand the anger. But please, my friends, think what you are saying. Think of where you are sending this energy.

We are workers of magic. By being called to this path we have an opportunity to shed light and wisdom, to instill love and compassion, in others who find themselves lost in their grief and fear.

Think of those on the front lines: digging through the rubble, moving bodies, trying to save those trapped beneath the collapsed buildings, endangering their own lives in the process. Think of those medical personnel working double and triple shifts, collecting blood and staying at the ready for casualties.

This is not work borne of a desire for vengeance; this is work borne of hope, of a belief that there is a future, even after a day where it seems so much was lost forever. This is work that allows that any and all humans desrve compassion and care.

For us to blindly lay blame and demand revenge when we do not even know what we are pointing at yet, is, I agree with whoever said it earlier, our fear speaking through our anger.

Move forward, in the hope we will one day heal and learn and love again. Are we truly here to hate? To avenge? To kill? Or are we on a path towarsd enlightenment?

I wrote the following quotations on the board in my classes today, before greeting students whose youthful dreams for the future have recently been shattered into bits:

"Each man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; therefore, never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee."

John Donne, poet

"Always leave people with good thoughts, because you may never see them again."

Valerie Perrine, actress

peace and love and hope to you friends...

Peg/Albion


It Is The Day After All I First Heard About What Happened... Sep 12th. at 9:56:29 pm EDT

Lilith Ravenmoon (Americus, Georgia US) Age: 22 - Email


It is the day after all I first heard about what happened over the radio at work, and I am still sickened and horrified by what happened. I ask Lilith to grant swift justice on those responsible, and wisdom on our leaders to see away to overcome this tragedy without anymore innocent blood being spread. We need to punish ONLY those responsible...going to war with an entire country would only result in the lose of more innocent life.

I also want to address something that disturbs me greatly, something that has happened since the bombings...the growing anti-Muslim hysteria that has been spreading. I have seen several anti-Islamic graffiti in my hometown and been in one chatroom on Yahoo where people were gathering to go to the Islam chat and bash the Muslims there. I know a lot of Muslims...most are peace-loving, law-abiding people who would never think of doing things like that. Actions like this are a result of poor judgement and pure bigotry...first off, we still don't know who's responsible, though we have a good idea. Second, even if bin Laden or someone else is behind this, he is one man. It is one small group. They do not represent all of Islam.

I am not crazy about the Islamic religion, but I know condemning an entire collective of people for the actions of one person or group is wrong. I think it is up to us level-headed thinkers to spot these people spreading this anti-Islamic bull and ask them if they thought about the large number of Muslims who have died yesterday morning. Then ask them if they think they are being any better than the monsters who did this and if they aren't doing exactly what the terrorists want them to do...namely, give in to hysteria and create division.

We need unity right now, more than ever, not division.

May the Lady guide and bless us all, take care of the souls of the victims, and help see that justice is served.


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