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Question of the Week: 29 - 2/19/2001

How About Some New Holidays?

June 22, 2001 will mark the fiftieth anniversary of the repeal of the last Witchcraft law (or anti-Witchcraft law, if you will) in England. Shortly after that event, the flow of information related to ancient and modern Witchcraft and Wiccan practices, beliefs and rituals began to flow across the waters into the United States and beyond (Whether British Witches think that this was/is a good or bad thing is still debated in some circles). Should we do something to celebrate this event each year, and especially, during this 50th anniversary year? Someone else suggested that October 4th-marking the first time ever a Wiccan (Bryan Lankford) gave an invocation at a government assembly-be adopted as 'Invocation Day.' What founder birthdays, anniversaries or significant-to-Pagan-history events might we consider as communal Holidays?

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How About Looking Into The Dates Of Incorportation Of The First Openly... Feb 24th. at 2:23:11 pm UTC

Christopher Bingham (Snohmish, Washington US) Age: 40 - Email


How about looking into the dates of incorportation of the first openly Pagan churches? I could be mistaken, but I beleive the Church of All Worlds was started in 1962. Then there is the ATC incorporated in 1985 (I THINK)I bet if we started with largests organizations we'd have another week of holidays!
I wouldn't celebrate the first time a Pagan gave an invocation at a Government event, however. While it's great that we're at the table, it's a sad day for me when there is a government sponsored table at all. I think the best meetings start witha simple "hello - let's get to the issues. Lunch is in an hour. Let's get it done..."


As A Solitary, I Would Like To See A National "day Of... Feb 24th. at 2:34:00 am UTC

Dreaming Cougar (bryant, Arkansas US) Age: 39 - Email


As a solitary, I would like to see a national "Day of Remembrance". A day set aside for all Pagan paths to assemble together to acknowledge our Ancestors and the sacrifices made to pass down the 'ways'. I know we have Samhain, but what I would like to see, is something on a bigger and more spiritual level. If I had to pick one person to recognize, I guess it would have to be Lady Sheba. Although choosing one pioneer of our century would be a monumental task. There have been so many wonderful people who have risked all to bring our paths into the light after so many centuries of shadows.


I Think That We Should Make Invocation Day An Official Holidayand That... Feb 23rd. at 3:18:01 pm UTC

Lila Astarte (East Meadow, New York US) Age: 35


I think that we should make Invocation Day an official holidayand that we should celebrate it on October 4th. It is an excellent way to mark the ending of our year. I think that the first suggestion of celebrating the fiftieth annerversary of the last anti-witchcraft law should be remembered and not forgotten but I feel it might interfer with the celebration of the summer solstice. I feel it should be a dedication day, not a celebration day.


Mm Everyone! I've Taken The Time To Read Through What Some People... Feb 23rd. at 2:00:02 pm UTC

Whitefeather Dolphin-moon Skyowl (Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario CA) Age: 16 - Email


MM everyone!

I've taken the time to read through what some people have written, and it's good stuff. I agree with the idea of a Pagan Pride Day, an official day we can all have to go out into our communities and be Pagan without fear. But, I don't think any other holiday would be neccessary. I already have eight Sabbats, not to mention 13 Esbats to celebrate all year, so the addition of another holiday seems a bit much. Seems to me that all the honour that special pagans need (Scott Cunningham, SilverRaven Wolf, Starhawk, Gerald Gardner etc) is the fact that many many many many many people follow their teachings to a greater of lesser degree. That's recognition enough. As for days marking the final death of a witch, or the repealing of laws, they should be allowed to pass to memory quietly, one as a tragedy, one as a great victory. (And if you don't know which is which, go jump off a bridge!) :(

In closing, Hurray for a Pagan Pride Day! Let me know of the date, eh?


Instead Of "new" Holidays, How About Going Back And Finding Some More... Feb 23rd. at 11:28:44 am UTC

SGIWizard (St. Louis, Missouri US) Age: 34 - Email


Instead of "new" holidays, how about going back and finding some more "old" ones? Why not turn to texts & scriptures of ancient Pagan cultures, e.g. Norse, Celtic, Persian or Sumerian (the oldest of all), and find out what sacred days those peoples celebrated, and why? Some of those days will no doubt be the same Sabbats we recognize today, but there could be some additional celebrations we could add to our Pagan Year to enrich it even further. I've been wanting to do this for a long time but haven't gotten around to it. It's also a way to connect with our ancient ancestors from whom our beliefs and practices originated, and remind ourselves that Paganism is not a 20th century sociopolitical invention.


I Believe That A Special Holiday For Pagans Would Nice. I Lean... Feb 23rd. at 7:25:17 am UTC

Anthony Griego (Hamden, Connecticut US) Age: 58


I believe that a special holiday for Pagans would nice. I lean more towards Pagan Pride Day which has been celebrated around September 22-24. That day would be a good time to get positive information out about who Pagans, Witches and Wiccans are and what we believe in. Because of the misinformation out there many of us are still in the closet Pagan Pride Day would honor us all, not any special person or event I hope I will see this come to pass in my lifetime. Connecticut is the location of the first Witch executed for Witchcraft in the North America. Alse Young of Windsor, Connecticut was hung in Hartford, Connecticut on May 26, 1647.


I Do Think That There Should Be A National Pegan Pride Day... Feb 22nd. at 11:56:01 pm UTC

Aspen (Gulf Shores, Alabama US) Age: 17 - Email


I do think that there should be a national pegan pride day, but there are many consequences on the thought of that. If the media should get its filthy hands on it all of it would be blown out of proportion and many problems would arise. But you also have to think about the civil rights movement, that had a majority as an opposition but it still went through and now there is a national black history month. I do not have any suggestions on how to choose such a day but i stongly think that one should be honored, not only for the great pegans who have set a precident for us to follow, but also for all of those ancient pegans in celtic Britian, Ireland, Norway, Denmark, Finland, and especially for our bravest ancestors in the last pegan nation of Lithuania. We should honor our past, not only our recent past but our ancient past. Remember more pegans have died for our beliefs than any other group in the history of humanity.


If A Particular Coven Or Solitary Wants To Name A Certain Day... Feb 22nd. at 1:13:56 pm UTC

Morgaine Moonsong (Springfield, Massachusetts US) Age: 20


If a particular coven or Solitary wants to name a certain day a holiday for themselves, that's fine. However there are way too many different perspectives to have just one day marked off as a pagan holiday. Because there are so many "founders" of the Craft i.e. founders of traditions, and a whole heckuva lot of important Pagan people it would be extremely difficult to honor all of these people by themselves. Perhaps a day set aside as an official Pagan Pride Day would be good, but there are so many different opinions how would any one set a day that would satisfy the majority? Would a prominent Pagan get to pick the day or would there be a poll? Would only one coven be involved in the choosing or would you get every coven and solitary to choose? And if so how would the decision be made? Unfortunately, this is a very tough topic, as it could step on a lot of toes. Would we want the government to declare this a national holiday? Boy, that would raise a lot of ruckus with the radical right wing! This is something that needs a lot of planning and thought.


A Group That I Circle With In Massachusetts Has And Will Continue... Feb 22nd. at 12:41:43 pm UTC

Amy Davis (South Deerfield, Massachusetts US) Age: 28 - Email


A group that I circle with in Massachusetts has and will continue to put on a "Pagan Pride Day" event on or around September 22-24. We always have a wonderful time and there is always a great turnout. Why not think about making that time of year or another specific date a day to celebrate and have pride in our religion? Won't George 'Dubya' be surprised when he sees there really ARE Pagans who have voices?!?!


Mm...my First Thought Was That It Should Be My Birthday, August... Feb 22nd. at 6:16:35 am UTC

Raindancer (Christchurch, New Zealand) Age: 52 - Email


MM...My first thought was that it should be my birthday, August 1, but thats taken already... seriously, I guess that as much as I like holidays, I have to come down on the side of those who see no need for some kind of "Official" holiday. There are so many already, and none of the suggestions so far has had anything approaching a universal appeal.

I think that declared OFFICIAL HOLIDAYS TM, times that may mean something to someone like Gerald Gardner Ran Out of Toilet Paper Day, but not to others, will only end up being a joke. Actually, that one already did.

There are too many Traditions, and beliefs to umbrella under one day. This is not to mention all the Eclectic Unrepentant Solitary folk like me. Its too bureaucratic/Hallmark for me.

I think that it can be said that there are as many traditions as there are people practicing. Everyone has their own slant. What I WOULD suggest is that each and every one of us, might consider making our Initiation/dedication day, or whenever it was that we made the decision to get off the fence and follow our path. It might be a day to look back on how far you've come, what you've learned, reexamine your beliefs again... have they changed, are they the same? What trials and tests has our decision brought upon us, and how have we grown as a result.

In short, personal Dedication day, might be a time to re-examine ourselves, and reaffirm our faith. Each one of us should make the choice of their day, we're too individualistic to agree on any one day, or to allow ourselves to have one chosen for us. Its a nice thought in some ways, but I don't think its very practical. Blessed Be Raindancer


For Me, The Best Holidays Are Those That Are Celebrated First And... Feb 22nd. at 6:01:16 am UTC

Richard Seward (San Francisco, California US) Age: 49 - Email


For me, the best holidays are those that are celebrated first and only then given governmental sanction. The reverse never quite works out. "President's Day" is an example of a holiday that has governmental sanction but no celebration. Halloween-Samhain and Chinese New Years-Festival of Lanterns are exemplary of holidays that are celebrated and enjoyed without governmental sanction ... especially in San Francisco. Days that mark events I want to celebrate become public holidays when many others feel as I do.

June 22nd and thereabouts is taken in my family ... Father's Day and Gay Pride Day come at that time of the year (no they are NOT mutually exclusive **grin**) My family also celebrates the turnings of the lunar and the solar year. And the day of first snow in Alaska. And the day the roses bloom on the fire escape. And the first day over 75 and sunny in the Bay area. And ... well, you get my drift.

I think we each celebrate our own holidays and then as many families celebrate simultaneously, critical mass is reached and the day is recognized by the society at large. I would hate to see a Pagan-Wiccan holiday on the books with the same impact National Pickle Month.


Scott Cunningham's Birthday.... Just Because He Was A Neat Guy Who Initiated... Feb 22nd. at 12:15:10 am UTC

Parvati's Tigress (San Antonio, Texas US) Age: 17 - Email


Scott Cunningham's Birthday....

Just because he was a neat guy who initiated a lot of us to the idea of Paganism.


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