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911 America: Talking Through The Terror...

Talking Through The Terror... And helping each other cope with the tragedies that struck at the very heart of the United States. The Witches Voice has opened up this forum in order that Pagans may express their thoughts on the terrorist attacks that took place in NYC and DC on September 11th. As the full realization of what happened and the toll numbers begin to come in, Americans have many challenges ahead.

What are your thoughts on these incidents? How are you feeling? Feel free to post any magickal workings or other support gatherings planned in your area.

WebNote 9/16/2001: Since we launched this on 911 this forum as become laced with powerful inspiration and critical information, feel free to use the search functions on your left to better define the info you are looking for. Search for your area, famous Pagans, key words etc. Also check Wren's Nest News for the latest news related to our community.

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Greetings All;my Alarm Clock Has A Radio On It And I... Sep 11th. at 7:11:47 pm UTC

Falconfeather (Anchorage, Alaska US) Age: 26 - Email


Greetings All;

My alarm clock has a radio on it and I woke up today(11am EST) to the horrible news. I thought I was still dreaming; that my dreams had taken a terrible, twisted turn. Even though I had the radio up at nearly full volume in the truck all the way to work, it didn't really start to sink in until I had actually arrived at work and heard everyone talking about it and saw it on the TV (I work in a telecommunications company and there are TVs all over the place with CNN & NBC updating us constantly throughout the day - there's no escape from the horror).
My condolences go out to all those who were injured and to all the family members of those taken in today's acts of terrorism (read: COWARDICE). My energies will go out tonight to those passing beyond the Veil, healing the wounded, and to support the efforts of the emergency personel working tirelessly and selflessly during this crisis.

In Light & Dark,
FF


There Isn't Much That I Can Say That Hasn't Already Been Said... Sep 11th. at 7:11:20 pm UTC

Krist (Columbus, Ohio US) Age: 27 - Email


There isn't much that I can say that hasn't already been said. I am utterly disgusted and quite sad about the events that took place today. Not only by the disasters, but also by the celebrations that took place because of this tragedy. My thoughts and prayers to those whom have suffered, their families and friends, and the Nation. May the Gods provide comfort, healing and love to all.


This Is Like All Of My Worst Nightmares Realized. I Can Remember... Sep 11th. at 7:05:58 pm UTC

Kaicielia BlueDragon (Madison, Wisconsin US) Age: 25 - Email


This is like all of my worst nightmares realized. I can remember some of my worst nightmares as a child were of walking home from school, and I had to cross a warfield to get home. I can remember dreams of attacks on the school and trying to hide in the halls, or get outside where it would be safer. I don't know what to do. I do give plasma on a regular basis, only because I cannot give whole blood. I hope that helps somewhat. I don't know what else to do. I feel lost, like I need to be doing something, I should be doing something. I hope this all plays out a little easier than all this, but I don't think that is at all likely. I guess I can just pray to the gods to help these people and save all they can.


Mm, I Have A Message That I Believe All Wiccans/pagans Should... Sep 11th. at 7:00:26 pm UTC

helcat (Ottawa, Ontario CA) Age: 18


MM, I have a message that I believe all Wiccans/Pagans should read. Please take part. This is an unspeakable horror and a monumental hurt. Blessings,

-helcat

*YOU HAVE BLANKET PERMISSION TO FORWARD THIS MESSAGE SWIFTLY AND WIDELY*

People,

In addition to everyone's private efforts occuring throughout the day, I am calling for a major coordination of an Act of Magick on behalf of this crisis to take place TONIGHT at Midnight, U.S. Eastern (New York/Washington D.C.)Time, 11p.m. Central time, 10p.m. Mountain Time, 9p.m. Pacific time and 5a.m in Great Britain and Western Europe. All who can please gather in your temples, living rooms, sacred groves and by your nearest power spot to send energy to this situation. If your heart directs you to, please CONTINUE this Act of Magick for Nine Nights - I feel strongly that our country's leadership will direct the country towards wholesale warfare; this Act of Magick will be both healing and prophylactic. The goals as I see it that we should focus on as a bare minimum should be:

* Safety and Healing, both for individuals and our piece of Gaia - and Herself as a whole

* Reinforcement of our personal and national shields

* A STRONG thread of Peace and Calming directed within our own borders as well as towards the Attackers

* A prayer for clarity and equanimity to prevail

* A STRONG thread directed to our country's leaders NOT to consider War as an option and good vibes sent to our people in the military

However your customs, traditions and spirit tell you to combine any or all of these issues (or others you may come up with) and proceed, please do so. The important thing is that we coordinate our energies

at the same time and keep the wave going as long as we can - Nine Days is the ancient prescription for such crises.

Now, a plea for rationality: Most of you know that I have been involved in the Islamic world in one way or another since college.
My gut, intuition and magick say that there are Muslim interests involved in these horrible incidents, which seem to be confirmed by the fragmentary reports coming in. I would ask everyone on this list who is actively involved in sending to this situation to think, at least *think* about (if not actively send love/magick/positive energy

to) the Muslims here in America, who are mostly peace-loving people, innocent of any involvement there may be in this awful affair. Islam boasts a larger than normal amount of fundamentalists due to its active emphasis on Jihad-e-Asghar (the Smaller War, against "infidels" - the Larger Jihad, Jihad-e-Akbar is the fight against the evil in oneself...), but we are talking about a VERY small minority who are not supported by the rank and file. I can see

the writing on the wall here for the fates of average Muslims living in this country if/when reports of Muslim involvement are concerned.

In the late 70's when I was teaching English in the Iranian immigrantcommunity, we regularly bandaged up Iranian and Arab boys and girls
who had the crap beaten out of them by bigoted idiots - their lives were sheer utter hell for years. Please, when you are sending your energies out to this situation, consider reserving a portion for the peace, strength, calming and healing of the Muslim community in America, and for increased positive relations between Islamic communities and other religions/lifestyles worldwide. Thank you.

I look forward to joining energies tonight and for the next eight nights on this. Anyone with more/better ideas, please post them and forward this one as widely as you like.

Many Blessings be to all of you,
Maryam Webster,
Saratoga, California


The Children Of My Generation Have Never Known War. We Are Too... Sep 11th. at 7:00:11 pm UTC

Eleigh (Corpus Christi, Texas US) Age: 17 - Email


The children of my generation have never known war. We are too young to remember the Gulf War, and Operation Desert Storm is but a phrase from our early memory. Throughout the school day, televisions and radios in different rooms blared the latest news of the great American tragedy. Students were either apathetic or shocked -- more commonly a combination of both -- as they puzzled over the impact this event would cause on their daily lives and their lives in the future. Those children with parents or other close family in the military were making phone calls about the situations on our US military bases or weeping quietly in each others arms. In my varsity choir class, we talked about the importance of community in times of crisis. We acknowledged the need for unity in helping to control the hardships of warfare; including economic downfall, local anarchy and pillaging, the pain of losing those persons closest to us, and international chaos.

This terrorist act, and whatever else may come as a result, has brought a new form of empathy for my generation towards those who have come before us. Yesterday, my biggest concern was whether or not I'd have my journalism assignment in on time. Today, my greatest fear is that hundreds-of-thousands of lives will be lost in a war that will define my generation. I think of how my grandparents and great-grandparents felt when they heard the announcement of WW2. My heart is in my throat as I think of all my friends who have joined the military. I tear up in fear at the thought of the boys sitting next to me in class being drafted. I cannot even imagine the ripping pain these boy's guardians must feel.

While the future remains uncertain, we must realize that now is the time for unity. There is safety in numbers -- and in the knowledge that the people around you have their hearts and minds tied to yours. Say a prayer, tell someone in pain that you sympathize with them, give blood, volunteer with the Red Cross, light a candle, set aside petty conflicts and rise together as one people. "E PLURIBUS UNUM."

Life is too short for hate.


Please Feel Free To Rewrite This As You See Fit. It Is... Sep 11th. at 6:59:37 pm UTC

Cynthia Tyler (Little DragonFlower) (Philadelphia, New York US) Age: 21 - Email


Please feel free to rewrite this as you see fit. It is not the author that is important, it is the message:

Dear Brothers and Sisters:

As you well know, a great travesty has befallen humanity. The City of God is burning and the Twin brothers have fallen. Nostradamus did not see wrong. The Third Great War is fast coming upon us. I come to you now to spread the word to your brothers and sisters, covens, circles and churches to become ready to raise a great Cone of Power.

I and my fellow pagans have had a dream, last night, before this horror. It was a nameless evil, waiting to consume everything. This pervaded us with a deep-rooted feeling of dread and fear. It was then that we decided to send word to our breatheren far and wide.

We must be ready to protect millions of innocent lives, and protect those who are overwhelmed with protecting us. We have the power together, and we must do this to save the world from darkness.

Lend your energies, prayers and offerings however little or large. Reach out and touch your powers together. The time to raise the cone is unsure, but the need within says that the time is coming soon, we will all know when. This destruction of thousands of lives is a great sign. Our prayers all beseech the Gods to not let them pass by. Now we must ready ourselves to fight this darkness.

Thank you for your time, I can only hope that you feel the same as I do. Please send this to anyone you believe to want to help.

Sincerely, Blessed Be,

Little DragonFlower
Philadelphia, New York

Reply to: lilmoongodess@hotmail.com


Hello Seattle Tacoma And Puyallup Washington! If You All Wanna Meet At... Sep 11th. at 6:54:26 pm UTC

Luna (Eatonville, Washington US) Age: 17


HELLO SEATTLE TACOMA AND PUYALLUP WASHINGTON!

If you all wanna meet at the park in Tacoma, WA, please meet there to pray for all the folks in New York and Washington D.C. Goddess bless them all!


Blessings To All,aside From Emotional/financial Support, You Can Also Give... Sep 11th. at 6:53:22 pm UTC

Genevieve Huot (Montreal, Quebec CA) Age: 28 - Email


Blessings to all,

Aside from emotional/financial support, you can also give blood, even if you live in Canada, as I do, as it was said on the news that our countries have some sort of reciprocal help agreement for this. If you are in Quebec and wonder where to give blood, go to:

http://www.hema-quebec.qc.ca/E/collecte/index.htm

Someone also posted the following call for all people spiritual (Christian, Pagan, Buddhist, etc.) to join in prayer-rituals tonight:

>*** THIS IS A NATIONAL CALL TO ALL OF SPIRITUAL FAITH
>EVERYWHERE ***
>
>In the face of the Recent Tragedies we, As Witches and
>Priests and Priestesses of Various Traditions and
>paths of Paganism, need now more than ever to band
>together and do work for the Protection of our
>Country, and for the strength and guidance of our
>leaders to make the best descisions.
>
>This is a detailed post as to a timeframe to unify our
>workings!! It is understood that not everyone can work
>together at the same time but it is requested that all
>effort be made to do so at this time. For those who
>cannot, it is ok, the energies will still combine and
>work together.
>
>This is a time that all people do what they can to aid
>those in need. As events unfold we will assuredly
>discover that injury and death tolls will be in the
>hundreds if not thousands. All people of spiritual
>faith (Pagans, Christians, Jewish, Muslims, etc.)
>should work together and combine their workings and
>prayers in an unified attempt to aid those in need as
>well as in the quick discovery of who is responsible
>for this horrific act of war.
>
>To the Pagan community that reads this is a call that
>all Pagans across the country focus on combining and
>directing their efforts and energies in this endeavor.
>This is a request that this evening (at approximately
>9:00 pm EST) - covens, solitaries, learning circles,
>etc., from wherever you may be and gather together,
>should make a concerted effort to doing just this.
>THIS IS A NATIONAL CALL!! PLEASE HELP HOWEVER YOU
>CAN!!
>
>Please Phone, Email, Post to other Yahoo Clubs and
>Groups, Contact all Pagans that you can and place out
>this call to everyone you know!!
>May The Gods of those lost take their Children home.
>GODS BLESS AMERICA
>
>
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There are so many horrible consequences for these monstruous attacks: thousands of tragics deaths (souls to pray for/help on their way, hundreds of grieving families), the very real threat of war, possible racist backlash both in the States (anyone having the misfortune of being of the nationality of the terrorists, when their identity has been established, might suffer prejudice due to maddened grief) and elsewhere (what an "Us against Them" excuse to be fuel xenophobia!)...

Whatever your path, please pray for peace, send healing, compassion and strength to those that need it, give blood, and be attentive to those in need, Reach out, offer your support...

Peace and compassion to all beings

Blessed be

GeneviŹve Huot
Peace and compassion to all beings

Blessed be

GeneviŹve Huot


I Noticed That The Television Has Been Showing Footage Of The Palestinians... Sep 11th. at 6:52:35 pm UTC

Brighid (Murfreesboro, Tennessee US) Age: 18


I noticed that the television has been showing footage of the Palestinians celebrating the disaster that has befallen America. Why do they find it necessary to dance in the streets and cheer for the deaths of so many innocent people? I know they blame America for siding with Israel, but we don't dance in the streets when their people die. It's really sad to see such, I guess you can call it, apathy. Why would anyone celebrate human suffering?


I Am Extremely Speechless Right Now As To What Happened. I'm More... Sep 11th. at 6:48:27 pm UTC

Kody (Portage, Indiana US) Age: 17


I am extremely speechless right now as to what happened. I'm more of in a state of shock. This was beyond anything I could have ever imagined. This tragedy was something I never thought I would see in my life. My deepest sympathy goes out to all the families and victims of this tragic event. With Love, Kody


Bright Blessings Everyone! I'm Sure We Could All Use Them Now. At... Sep 11th. at 6:42:40 pm UTC

Branwen (Irvine, California US) Age: 25 - Email


Bright Blessings Everyone! I'm sure we could all use them now. At the risk of sounding redundant I am in shock at what's happened. Many of the people here that I work with are very hostile and calling for "an eye for an eye". While I consider myself very patriotic- I have never shared the "eye for an eye" point of view. All out war is a travesty I fervently hope we can avoid.
With that in mind a fellow wiccan Thunderhawk Stormdancing and I have constructed a very simple chant that we hope many of you will participate in. While this can be greatly helpful throughout the day we hope that synchronicity will lend a hand at 8pm and 12am. At 8pm and 12am many wiccans all over the nation will be working this chant:

"By the fire and water
and earth and air
and spirit within my being,
to New York and all victims of this tragedy
I send Goddess love and healing.
By the Lord and Lady at once and three,
so mote it be!, so mote it be! so mote it be!"

Some may want to incorporate candles, others I know will be working with braiding cords, others will be simply visualizing golden healing light and chanting. However you choose to participate will be greatly appreciated!

Bright Blessings,
Branwen


Calling All Pagansplease Join In, A Nation Wide Ritual Being Held... Sep 11th. at 6:40:22 pm UTC

Huntress3 (Albany, New York US) Age: 28 - Email


CALLING ALL PAGANS

Please join in, a Nation Wide Ritual being held in honor of those effected by today's Tragedy. Please take a few moments as we stand together at 10 PM tonight (eastern time) September 11, 2001 and send healing, strength and love to the families and loved ones involved or effected by today's Terrorist Attacks on the U.S.

Please pass this on and share it with all your pagan friends.


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