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Question of the Week: 59 - 9/11/2001

911 America: Talking Through The Terror...

Talking Through The Terror... And helping each other cope with the tragedies that struck at the very heart of the United States. The Witches Voice has opened up this forum in order that Pagans may express their thoughts on the terrorist attacks that took place in NYC and DC on September 11th. As the full realization of what happened and the toll numbers begin to come in, Americans have many challenges ahead.

What are your thoughts on these incidents? How are you feeling? Feel free to post any magickal workings or other support gatherings planned in your area.

WebNote 9/16/2001: Since we launched this on 911 this forum as become laced with powerful inspiration and critical information, feel free to use the search functions on your left to better define the info you are looking for. Search for your area, famous Pagans, key words etc. Also check Wren's Nest News for the latest news related to our community.

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I Am Presently Without Any Real Thoughts On The Situation But My... Sep 11th. at 6:40:20 pm EDT

Silver Unicorn (Marysville, Ohio US) Age: 21 - Email


I am presently without any real thoughts on the situation but my emotions are totally out of their normal sphere. I believe that we should definitly direct our energy and beliefs toward the help of those that can still be helped.
I am stunned behond words that this has happened and would like to know why?
I don't think there are any of us that aren't directly or indirectly connected. I know that the forces of nature and her creatures are talking today as well.
Blessed Be,


It Helps To Take Direct Action At A Time Like This So... Sep 11th. at 6:38:37 pm EDT

Sia (Santa Clara, California US) Age: 43 - Email


It helps to take direct action at a time like this so I am writing to ask those of you who can donate blood to please do so as soon as possible. You can find the address and number of your local Red Cross at this website: http://www.redcross.org/

You can also call 1-800-HELP-NOW. The Red Cross has other needs besides
blood. This number will tell you how you can help.

As I write this, the American Red Cross is sending blood donations to the
disaster areas in the U.S. This means that blood for operations, births, accidents and other emergencies in some other areas will be in low supply. Even if your blood doesn't go to someone in New York or Washington, it can help someone elsewhere, so please donate if you can.

The Red Cross also provides counseling and mental health care to those that need it. This is not easy task. They can use your spiritual and earthly support at this time.

Our thoughts and prayers go out to all of you on the East Coast and to those who have loved ones there.

We have also asked our members to send strength and love to the ones who have passed on as well as to their families, friends and loved ones. Please also keep the Rescue Workers, Fire Crews and Emergency staff in mind. These brave men and women deserve our thanks and support.

Alone or in groups, we will light candles tonight for Peace, Courage and Hope and then many of our members will go to on the Red Cross Centers in California.

Blessed Be to your and yours,

Sia
Council Leader, Full Circle Events
http://www.fullcircleevents.org
writing from Northern California.


At Inet Image Developers We Are Concerned About The Victims And Their... Sep 11th. at 6:36:47 pm EDT

Robert Keating (Bennettsville, South Carolina US) Age: 50 - Email


At iNet iMage Developers we are concerned about the victims and their
> families. We have just setup a website called americanvictims.org. We have
> setup a donations button there. We are asking everyone to email every one on
> their lists to let them know that they can make donations to help the
> survivors and their families. The money collected will go to organizations
> that are on the front line.
> American Red Cross
> Municipal New York City Agencies and more.
>
> The name has not propagated through the www DNS yet.
>
> Until then please use http://66.34.153.154
>


Though My 7 Year Old Son And I Are Currently Homeless In... Sep 11th. at 6:31:31 pm EDT

D Elswick (Concord, New Hampshire US) Age: 43 - Email


Though my 7 year old son and I are currently homeless in Concord, NH, we have to put our thoughts in perspective in view of these events. I say a prayer in thanks for us being alive and reasonably safe and my thoughts and love go to the victims, dead and wounded and their families and friends.

May the Love of the Lord ands Lady be with us all


I Don't Think Any Of Us Will Ever Forget This Day...my... Sep 11th. at 6:29:56 pm EDT

Rev. Carolyne Kleinman (Round Rock, Texas US) Age: 43 - Email


I don't think any of us will ever forget this day...my heart went to my toes as I saw the first of the WTC towers in flames when I walked back into my home from taking my kids to school. Then, horrifically I watched as the second hijacked plane plowed into the second tower. My gut told me we were under attack, and it was to be confirmed as the report came in that yet another installation was "plane-bombed" - this time, the Pentagon. All that I hold precious and dear suddenly became threatened from a nameless faceless force - and my brothers and sisters in spirit and in citizenship were dying in front of us all.
No longer did it matter, the lines of dogma blurred - we all hold some form of Deity as Sacred - and we all believe that our Freedom to worship, live, laugh and love is part and parcel of that Sacred Trust. Here, with a bloody, fiery scimitar, the Tapestry of our Republic was rendered, our innocence shattered, and our Faith to be tested. No matter what name we give our individual observances of Faith, it has become evident that it is time we come together, place dogma aside in favor of another hand to push aside the rubble, the ash, the shrapnel and pull ourselves out of the ashes to stand strong and reborn.
Issac is right. We don't have time to hate or retaliate. Right now, despite our differences, all we have is each other. Night is coming; my candle is lit, my hearthfire is ablaze, my kitchen will be a welcome place for those who hunger for the bread of grain or companionship after being on the frontlines of horror and hatred.


I Should Have Known Something Was Coming. Stormclouds Have Been Popping Up... Sep 11th. at 6:18:24 pm EDT

ghost (Sarasota, Florida US) Age: 21 - Email


I should have known something was coming. Stormclouds have been popping up in my dreams, and last night I woke up with a very strange sinking feeling. That being said, there is no way to gauge the harm that has been perpetrated today, both physically, emotionally, and spiritually.

Everwhere I look, faces are awash in anger. The words "bombing" and "arabs" have been paired and circulated constantly, usually with plenty of profane mutterings thrown in. People seem ready to meet death with death...it's like we've traded in an iron curtain for the crushing weight of an iron globe.

Every time I close my eyes, I see something that makes me open them again--fire, smoke, bodies toppling through the sky. I can feel their screams hoverring in the air, just out of reach of my ears. I don't know if anything will ever be the same again. My thoughts keep landing of Faust--maybe Mephistopheles was correct. Maybe whatever arises from the void deserves to be annihilated. I know these feelings are fundamentally incorrect, but I can't get them out of my head.

There is a fog in the air, and it is choking us all.


I Don't Understand How This Could Happen, We As Followers Of The... Sep 11th. at 6:17:01 pm EDT

Rei (Chino) Age: 19


I don't understand how this could happen, we as followers of the old ways choose to distant our selfs from wars and this type of destruction, and now war will begin how do we handle this where is our place in this. I've followed the laws of counrty and man as much as i could, how do i respond to this ethically, how do we respond ethiclly........
may the gods watch us and lead us in the correct direction,
hand in heart and heart in hand


I Don't Really Know What To Say, But Feel The Need To... Sep 11th. at 6:12:16 pm EDT

Worth (San Antonio, Texas US) Age: 32 - Email


I don't really know what to say, but feel the need to say something. This may be sort of stream-of-conciousness, but here goes...

First, I fully agree with everything posted so far concerning sending out all the healing energies to the victims and protective energies for the rescue workers. Gods know they need all they can get right now and for some time to come.

Second, one of the first thoughts that came to my mind after it all had sunk in was the extremem likelihood, given the assumption of a Muslim group being responsible, that there's probably going to be a large amount of racist activity directed at people of Mid-Eastern ethnicity here in the US. Don't forget them - they'll need our energies as well.

Third, while I have become increasingly anti-war in recent years (even before finding the Wiccan path), I also still believe in self defense. I don't think the Goddess and God expect us to stand still and accept violence committed against us. The same goes on a national level. I do think the U.S. gets involved in way too many conflicts, but this is a national defense issue in my opinion. People, this is War. I agree with "Do no harm"; however, sometimes one has to weigh which action causes the most harm? If finding those responsible and stopping them results in more deaths, but prevents them from escalating their attacks whether on US soil or anywhere else, then stopping them causes the least harm. I know this is a very controversial view in our community, but I had to say it. Don't doubt that I much prefer peace, but think about this: what if Hitler had never been met with violent opposition?

And last, I want to reiterate that my thoughts, feelings and energies go out to all the victims (including the families/loved ones of those dead; they are victims as well).


When I Heard About The Attack At 10:30pm I Was Shocked... Sep 11th. at 6:09:45 pm EDT

Deborah Overturf (Marysville , Ohio US) Age: 22 - Email


When I heard about the attack at 10:30pm I was shocked, bewildered, lost. How can this happen?, I thought, why would this be. All day I listened to updates and newsreporters, I felt so angery, hurt, violated. I wanted something to be done about this usless loss of life, energy, and of people. I strugled all day to rid myself of my anger and negitivity, but I couldn't, I still don't understand, I can't logic this out. I came to the Witcher Vox. to recieve guidence, I'm only a two year old witch, so I'm still trying to mentally change my reactions. All of the positive messages and the support are wonderful, thanks to all who have posted messages. You have all helped me see this in a Witchy way as I need to. Blessed Be.


If You Are In Brooklyn And Want To Meet Near The Prospect... Sep 11th. at 6:03:54 pm EDT

Odysseus (Brooklyn, New York US) Age: 24 - Email


If you are in Brooklyn and want to meet near the Prospect Park West/Bartel Pritchard Square entrance to Prospect Park for a candlelight vigil, Email me at
OdysseusTarot@aol.com.

I think a mass magickal work would be important to have.

People of all faiths are invited to Email me to arrange this.

Thank you

Odysseus


By Now Most Of You Are Aware Of The Horrific Events In... Sep 11th. at 5:56:32 pm EDT

Scout An Sionnach (Toronto, Ontario CA) Age: 30 - Email


By now most of you are aware of the horrific events in the United States.
It is terrible, it is unimaginable, it is unthinkable. Please join others in sending our thoughts, our prayers, our energy to those who are in need. We not only need to work in spirit, but also in body. Donate blood. Offer your home to those that are stranded. Hold someone you love a little closer. Light a flame, and may its light shine brightly in this time of such utter darkness.

On behalf of the Toronto Pagan community... our thoughts, our energy, our prayers...


Support Gathering And Vigil7 Pm Vigil Tonight, Tuesday, 9/11 At... Sep 11th. at 5:53:24 pm EDT

Isis Ward (Berkeley, California US) Age: 34


Support Gathering and Vigil
7 PM vigil Tonight, Tuesday, 9/11 at the Berkeley Toltec Center of Creative Intent 2300 Roosevelt at Bancroft


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