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Posted: Nov. 17, 2002
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911 America: Talking Through The Terror...
Talking Through The Terror... And helping each other cope with the tragedies that struck at the very heart of the United States. The Witches Voice has opened up this forum in order that Pagans may express their thoughts on the terrorist attacks that took place in NYC and DC on September 11th. As the full realization of what happened and the toll numbers begin to come in, Americans have many challenges ahead.
What are your thoughts on these incidents? How are you feeling? Feel free to post any magickal workings or other support gatherings planned in your area.
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| Truly Horrible!i Cannot Understand What Each Human Being Can Do To... ||Sep 17th. at 5:15:45 pm UTC|
|Charlotte Hammerle (Lake City, Florida US) ||Age: 48 - Email |
Truly horrible!I cannot understand what each human being can do to the other. I found your site by mistake the other week , I am a clairvoyant and had for days before the attack been getting bad dreams of horrible content . Unfortunately I can not decipher some of these dreams but my gift is to see death . I could not sleep for days before and since I felt the sadness and pain of those killed and left behind. I am now angry at people who would force their religious beliefs on us to fight a holy war and then run like so many cowards do.I pray for victory over our enemies and pray for protection of our people who must now fight this war on mankind. I thank you for the privledge of letting others know my feelings. charlotte hammerle
| I've Struggled (like Everyone) To Understand The Meanings In The Acts That... ||Sep 17th. at 4:27:02 pm UTC|
|Turtlefeather (Hendersonville, North Carolina US) ||Age: 32 - Email |
I've struggled (like everyone) to understand the meanings in the acts that were carried out this Tuesday last, and have shuddered and wept at the lack of answers. I kept asking the Universe what we could expect from this tradgedy. The answer I finally received simply said "unity." Then I asked what I could do to help those that suffered the worst, and a resounding voice said "love." Unify in love....
I served my country for eight years and concluded that war and violence are not the answers to peace. I am against fighting others, especially when we don't know who perpetrated the violence against us. We need to find out why, what could we do to change things for better understanding....
Everything is energy. Everything changes and turns into the rich earth for new growth. Maybe, in a very twisted way, the Earth is taking back some of the energy we've taken from Her and we are just too deaf to hear it. Everything happens for a reason. Maybe that reason is so much larger than we can comprehend....
I don't want to trivialize what happened Tuesday. I struggle every day to understand why things happen. I mourn for those lost, and wish them greater understanding in their journey.
| I Know A Lot Of People Have Felt Helpless During This Past... ||Sep 17th. at 4:15:56 pm UTC|
|Mina (Laurel, Maryland US) ||Age: 24 |
I know a lot of people have felt helpless during this past week, unable to do anything other than give money to the people working on the rescue effort.
I don't know if any of you did (and you certainly don't have to tell me), but if you donated to the Red Cross I want to personally say "thank you." My boyfriend was called up to aid in the search and rescue effort (as he has a certain skillset they needed - not military). He told me yesterday that they had got in shipments from the Red Cross of clean clothes and food. He said that someone who'd gone up with him had gotten a pair of boots to replace her inadequate tennis shoes. He had gotten some clean clothes (he says he's covered in dust most of the time). They all appreciated the food brought.
So, as I sit and wait for the bittersweet moment when he comes home (bitter because it will mean they have stopped looking for survivors), I want to thank anyone and everyone who has donated to organizations like the Red Cross, because YOU HAVE HELPED!
| Sorry All -- Third Post. I Should Have Changed The Reference To Christmas... ||Sep 17th. at 4:12:14 pm UTC|
|Ciarrai (Central NJ, New Jersey US) ||Age: 34 |
Sorry all -- third post. I should have changed the reference to Christmas shopping to holiday shopping. Just realizing this now. I didn't write it! Don't be angry with me! Peace!
| Sorry For The Second Post -- And For All The Typos In My... ||Sep 17th. at 4:09:24 pm UTC|
|Ciarrai (Central NJ, New Jersey US) ||Age: 34 |
Sorry for the second post -- and for all the typos in my first post.
Someone just sent me this. Although it seems insensitive, at first, it makes sense. (My best friend is a banker!)
Subject: Fw: The best actions you can take for your country...
One of the obvious goals in Tuesday's attack in addition to the murder of innocent people was to cripple the American economy. The World Trade Center was a target because of its tremendous impact on the world's economy.Ê The impact on world markets was immediate and the long term impact remains to be seen.Ê The time to act is now...we can not let the scum of the earth dictate our future.
The only way to avoid additional economical decline is to continue to consume.Ê We can not rely on Federal Reserve adjustments, tax relief, etc.Ê All Americans must continue to participate in our economy.Ê Americans must analyze their budgets and buy needed/ wanted items of all varieties as long as these purchases are made within their means.Ê Go Christmas shopping now...you will be done early to enjoy the holidays and you will keep the United States out of recession.Ê Buy birthday and wedding presents for the Fall and Winter now...avoid the headaches of last minute buying.
The bottom line is we must be proactive in maintaining consumer confidence.Ê Giving blood and money for disaster relief are wonderful, needed actions by all...but it does not stop there. Contribute actively to our economy and do not let the savages who killed our fellow citizens win.Ê Please forward to your entire address book so we can make a difference.
| I Consider Myself To Be A Christo Pagan In Training. Everything That... ||Sep 17th. at 3:42:12 pm UTC|
|Ciarrai (Central NJ, New Jersey US) ||Age: 34 |
I consider myself to be a Christo Pagan in training. Everything that I've studied has pretty much told me that I didn't have to completely abandon the beliefs in which I was raised. I have managed to strike a balance. I know most Pagans don't get that. But I am still in my "study phase, " and I I feel that I can't self-initiate until I'm done with my year and a day. I'm also lucky to know a Pagan artist that I am sure will teach me. I never felt ready before, or rather, worthy. Not quite yet educated enough. "Year and a Day."
I will always consider myself a "Jersey Girl, " and man, I have to say that I am pretty scared. NYC is my backyard. NYC is only about 15 miles from my house. I'm fortunate to not have anyone from my family there, but I feel like my family is there, b/c it is NYC. Because it is AMERICA.
I'm feeling more and more Pagan every day. I never realized how open minded I was. I don't think that I used to be. I feel very bad about the American Muslims in the area. I am hearing horror stories about people being beat up. I'm trying not to argue with my friends when they say things like we should send them all back to the Middle East. I'm becoming offended when they suggest that the women not cover their heads if they don't want to be attacked. I'm extremely offended by what Jerry Falwell had to say about the Pagans. I'm just as offended about what the Pagans have to say about the Christians. And I'm tired about people whining about the lack of Pagan presence at the Day Of Prayer. Don't worry; we were there. And I agree about not Bush-bashing right now. He's our President, and we have to have faith in his decisions now. I didn't vote for him but bellyaching isn't going to help. Not when I hear about my friends that have volunteered and have seen people trying to piece fingers with hands and people whose faces were burned off.
I cast my first circle this past Friday night. I read aloud from a book or modidn't bother to get a book to look up instructions from any of the wonderful books from Peg Aloi's list. I went to a "New Age Type" shop in a nearby town on my way home from work. The Pagan shops weren't going to be conducive to my time commitment of my 7 p.m. candle lighting. I didn't have the time to make my own candles, oils and brews as I envisioned my first circle. I purchased candles that were already charged. I charged them myself anyway. I purchased pre-made oils. I knew that what I found would have to do. The woman behind the counter asked me if I needed help, and I just replied no, thanks. As I was shopping she commented that I seemed to know exactly what I was looking for. My athame was a piece of my sterling silver flatware, my boleen to carve the initials of the missing that I know was an old beau's hunting knife that I found in the closet that morning. My altar was on my little balcony.
I'm sure my neighbors are convinced that I am crazy. "What's the chick doing up there talking to herself? What is she carving into those candles? Why is she plunging her silver into the flame?" -- that is what I am sure they were thinking.
My beau arrived late. He knew that I would be performing a ritual and he didn't want to spoil it or tease me. He thought it was beautiful to see me up there.
I'm proud to be a Pagan American.
Thanks so much to the Pagan community outside of the US for your thoughts.
| On Saturday, Sept. 22-mabon-the Sisters Of The Moon (a Coven In... ||Sep 17th. at 3:36:28 pm UTC|
|Sali Tetreault (Newark, Vermont US) ||Age: 30 - Email |
On Saturday, Sept. 22-Mabon-the Sisters of the Moon (a coven in Northern Vermont) will be dedicating our ritual work to healing, protection and balance for all lives that have been and will be touched by the tragedy of 9/11. We will be doing ritual @ 8:30 ET. and are asking all pagens, wiccans and witch's to focus their Mabon rituals in the same direction at the same time.
| Brightest Blessings Go Out From Our Family To You And All Of... ||Sep 17th. at 3:31:13 pm UTC|
|Michaelthe9 (Torrance) ||Age: 44 |
Brightest blessings go out from our family to you and all of the victims and their families. May the Goddess aid in closure for all. A simple offering of witch thoughts for us:
In spite of the efforts of those people (those responsible for the attacks) with their own negative manifestations of what they call their lives, I trust that we all will learn from this experience. We can't feed the negative energy of those who have forced their ways upon us as they would have us do through quick and unwise retaliation. We must use our magick and our clear intent to gain a balance in this situation. I pray and spell that the government will be wise in their thought and action. I also trust that these attacks will serve us in the witch world as well. One hears about witch wars and petty conflicts about one's light is brighter than another's. These events that we are enduring and learning from must show those who have internal conflicts with themselves that there is a common good, a higher good for us to come together over: The well being of humans as a whole. Witch or not. Bright light or not. Not only do I pray and spell for love to prevail, I pray and spell for this tragic event to bond us as a world. The little things that piss us off really mean nothing compared to the loss and efforts going on in New York and Washington D. C. and Pensilvania. Brothers and sisters, we are saddened and grieve both directly and from a distance. Blessed be that so many of you instantly came together! Thank you for that. We are together and must remain so eternally. That will be an inspiration and an example for the rest of the world.
Love and light,
| America The Free. That Has Not Changed. America The Strong. That Has... ||Sep 17th. at 3:14:18 pm UTC|
|Wick Green (Los Angeles, California US) ||Age: 42 - Email |
America the Free. That has not changed. America the strong. That has not changed. America the just. That has not changed. What has truly changed? Nothing. An act of violent hatred was perpetrated against America, against its people, and our lives have been altered in many ways, both physically, mentally, both emotionally and spiritually, and this coursse will continue, and possibly, most assuredly in some ways, will forever stay. But what America is, the America found within us, that has not changed. So the rest of the world can take heart in that faith, and hope, and love will continue to wear themselves out on our sleeves, and Freedom still rings in America. And as a Pagan American, as well as all Americans, as well as all people, that is cause for rejoicing.
| I Know That This Is A Little Late But It's To Let... ||Sep 17th. at 3:03:38 pm UTC|
|Lynn (Glasgow, England UK) ||Age: 38 - Email |
I know that this is a little late but it's to let you know that We in Scotland are thinking about you and are stunned that this was not accident. How can people do this to other people.
The 11th September will always be remember as the day the world changed.
| I Hope Everyone Will Feel The Loving Arms Of The Mother Wrap... ||Sep 17th. at 3:00:18 pm UTC|
|Morningsong (warsaw, Virginia US) ||Age: 23 - Email |
I hope everyone will feel the loving arms of the Mother wrap around their hearts. Goddess let them greive a for a time but grow strong forever.
| May The Divine Light Flow Through Me And Radiate From Me To... ||Sep 17th. at 2:08:02 pm UTC|
|Cj DeBard (Bremerton, Washington US) ||Age: 47 - Email |
"May the Divine Light flow through me and radiate from me
to all who surround me." - Cj DeBard
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