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911 America: Talking Through The Terror...

Talking Through The Terror... And helping each other cope with the tragedies that struck at the very heart of the United States. The Witches Voice has opened up this forum in order that Pagans may express their thoughts on the terrorist attacks that took place in NYC and DC on September 11th. As the full realization of what happened and the toll numbers begin to come in, Americans have many challenges ahead.

What are your thoughts on these incidents? How are you feeling? Feel free to post any magickal workings or other support gatherings planned in your area.

WebNote 9/16/2001: Since we launched this on 911 this forum as become laced with powerful inspiration and critical information, feel free to use the search functions on your left to better define the info you are looking for. Search for your area, famous Pagans, key words etc. Also check Wren's Nest News for the latest news related to our community.

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I Am Writing This To Send Light And Love To All Those... Sep 11th. at 4:36:34 pm UTC

Ilmare Moonraven (Scotland, England UK) Age: 21 - Email

I am writing this to send light and love to all those affected by this terrible tragedy. I couldn't believe what I was seeing when I switched on the TV here in the UK. It was like something out of a bad movie, except this was worse, it was real.

Many UK pagans I have spoken to are holding their own vigils around 9 (GMT) tonight to send love and healing to America at this time.

Love and Light

Me, I'm Paranoid. These Attacks Are So Unprecedented, And So Coordinated, They... Sep 11th. at 4:35:56 pm UTC

Aedh Rua (New Richmond, Wisconsin US) Age: 35 - Email

Me, I'm paranoid. These attacks are so unprecedented, and so coordinated, they seem almost beyond the ability of any known terrorist group. Even Bin Ladin hasn't done anything on this scale before. I am wondering if "Dubya" himself might be behind them, as part of an effort to suspend the Consitution and deal with his "enemies".

Even if he isn't, will Americans panic over this? Will we see internal passports, checkpoints eveywhere, maybe roundups of those not Christian enough for the government? The borders are already closed.

Probably not, but it is still very, very scary.

Whoever did it deserves to be shot, of course. However justified they may think it, there is no excuse to target so many innocent people.

I guess we are learning what many Europeans know about being vulnerable. Now we know what it is to live under the threat of bombs, and in fear of our own rulers.

What Can One Really Say About An Incident Like This? My Initial... Sep 11th. at 4:35:51 pm UTC

Barbarian (Chicago, Illinois US) Age: 31 - Email

What can one really say about an incident like this? My initial reaction was one of disbelief ... it was just too unreal to be true. Then as I listened to the radio and saw the images on television, I numbly understood that this was real.

Right now, the estimated death toll is 10, 000 people - just for the World Trade Center. I grew up in a town of less than 5, 000 people. I don't think any of us can really wrap our minds around that much loss of life from a single act. Each life, each family touched ... the weight of this disaster is simply too much.

If any good can come of this horror, perhaps we'll collectively realize that our differences aren't so great. Maybe we can pull together as a country and stand together - like many families do after ill fate befalls them.

My blessings and prayers go out to the families and all those touched by this. May their Gods comfort them and see them through this darkness and through the darkness that is no doubt to come.

I Am Moved By The Outpouring Of Love Here. I Am Proudest... Sep 11th. at 4:32:30 pm UTC

Nighteyes (Hopkinsville, Kentucky US) Age: 28 - Email

I am moved by the outpouring of love here. I am proudest of our faith when I see it carry us through tragedy with our heads held high and our hearts open. Thank-you all who posted in love. This morning I prayed that we, as a nation, can respond with justice not revenge. I am concerned that this administration might take a heavy hand to this situation and make large mistakes that we cannot take back. Remember, the Lord and Lady hand out the divine retribution, we do not, it is up to us to do what is right and moral for ourselves and be responsible for our own actions. This is a chance to learn that just because others make decisions that hurt us, we cannot allow that to let us recipricate with more bad judgement. I also understand how, politically we have to respond quickly and with a show of force or we invite more of this by apearing to be a wounded animal, I just pray that it is powered by the spirit of justice not revenge.

Give blood wherever you can, it would be even more tragedy for people to die in hospitals becasue they ran out of blood. Witches heal, lets live up to that call.

Blessed Be, may the God and Goddess go in your hearts to cradle you when you are afraid, to lift you up when you are down, to challenge you when you are ready, and to remind you of who you really are.

My Prayers And Strength Go Out To Those Touched By This Horrible... Sep 11th. at 4:32:08 pm UTC

Rae (Auburn, Washington US) Age: 16 - Email

My prayers and strength go out to those touched by this horrible show of ignorance. The American people, while scared, will not be subdued in the wake of this mass killing. We have shown through countless ordeals that we, as a united being, will stand up and fight for our Goddess given right to life, liberety and the persute of happiness.

I was getting ready for school when I saw the news; the Twin Towers of New York City had been demolished by a 747 colliding into one. I could just stare and barely breathe as I heard the news reporter say that nearly 14, 000 people go to work there everyday... and that the death toll could be as much as 10, 000. I was shocked. As I walk into the school, I am slightly surprised to not hear any of the people talking about it. In trig class, all talk was about the algebra refresher and J-Lo. In passing, it was the same jabber about music, guys, makeup and the VMA's. But slowly, during lunch, i would hear people talking about a bomb in the Twin Towers, and then I felt I had to divulge the news to my group. The attack, the deaths, borders being closed, air planes being landed, I had to get it out of me. And I am still shaken by what has happend.

Its almost as if it is a dream, something out of a movie. The images on the screen remind me of the movie Deep Impact. I couldnt register inside that this is it... that 10, 000 people are no more, crushed or burned to death by a horrible, twisted minded person. The I heard the Pentagon had been hit. The military portion had been struck, though not as badly as the terrorist had hoped, I think. The President, coming back from a vacation in Florida, called them something like cowards who would not show their face... though i guess they (the terrorist(s) died in the crash too.

I am still reeling for it. In the autotorium, they showed some classes the news report, and right then and there I prayed. I prayed that the goddess send her love to those greiving, and send her strength to those departing into the other world, so that they will have the courage to be reborn. I prayed that the world would not have to go to war, that we could find a way to peacefully bring this to an end. But sadly, i think more will die before this is resolved.

My father says this is the end of the world that I grew up in. He says that yesterday was the last day of normalcy that i will know. Men, teens just out of highschool, will be drafted to go to war to fight for their country. I wish I could be one of them. I love this land feircely, even if I disagree with many many things our society has come to. I fear that copy cats, seeing this, will start their own mini-war. I live near Seattle, one of the 5 major terrorist marks. We havent been warned about any bombs yet, though neither was New York. I fear for the lives of my friends parents, who work in places like Boeing, the Northwest Bank, those on the Sounder, and many other innocent people at risk. Im trying to to keep myself in a state of alarm, the goddess is my salvation in that i know I can come to her. i dont fear my own death, but I do worry about my friends. They might not have the agreement and understanding I have pieced together for my self.

bless you all, and goddess bless you too

First I Must Say That I Am Truly Sorry For The Families... Sep 11th. at 4:27:19 pm UTC

Firelite (orivesi, Finland) Age: 16

First I must say that I am truly sorry for the families of the victims and I understand the horrible situation. But let's look at the reasons for this.

The United States has been bombing Afganistan, for example, many times recently. The "we are the world police - we can do whatever we want"-attitude of the US goverment is very offensive towards other countries. The bombing of Pentagon shows the symbolism of this act - whoever is responsible for this, wants the United States to see that they cannot do whatever they want.

What I am afraid of, is that when the United States will revenge... that could well result as the third world war.

May goddess bless the thoughts of the US government so that they won't feel that revenge is necessary. My blessings for everyone in the US; may the goddess protect you all.


Fritz And Wren, You Are Both Amazing. Your Constant Vigilance To The... Sep 11th. at 4:24:38 pm UTC

Kristine D. (Washington DC Metro Area, Virginia US) Age: 30

Fritz and Wren,
You are both amazing. Your constant vigilance to the needs of the entire pagan community is an inspiration to what community truely means. By offering a message board for the concerned to share their thoughts and words during a nationwide time of crisis is above and beyond anything I would could have imagined from a community web page. Thank you for doing everything you do with the WitchVox and creating such a connection for our pagan/spiritual traditions.

Bright Blessing to you both as well as all those who need help at this time.

I send this message to you directly as well as to the message board.

Kristine D.

I Am Terrified For My Fellow Americans As Well As Deeply Saddened... Sep 11th. at 4:20:36 pm UTC

Morgan TigerLily (Dearborn, Michigan US) Age: 21

I am terrified for my fellow Americans as well as deeply saddened by this horrible event. I'm wondering what it is leading up too, and how in the future we will look back on it. Hopeing we can all work through this together...

Tonight, Tuesday 11 September, Circle Of The Goddess (cotg) Will Be Conducting... Sep 11th. at 4:18:00 pm UTC

Astarte (Santa Clara, California US) Age: 35

Tonight, Tuesday 11 September, Circle of The Goddess (COTG) will be conducting a ritual for the dead at 9:00 pm, Pacific Time.

We are organizing a COTG-wide prayer meditation, that I would like to extend through the weekend - perhaps in shifts. What I believe we need here is a shift in focus, from anger and rage, to one of healing. The United States needs all the help it can get in terms of healing and strength to find awareness within, from the Wiccans to the Fundamentalists - everyone. We all need to work together to SHIFT THE FOCUS.

Our website now has information about how to donate blood (, and we introduced the idea of meditation and prayer but there must be more. We need to get our respective Circles together, to focus and send out a web of love and strength.

Please join us in combining efforts to raise awareness and send strength and healing to all in this nation.

Many blessings, Astarte, HPS, COTG

Blessed Mother,
open Your light to those who have passed on today,
so violently, so suddenly,
and allow them to find You and Know that they are safe and warm.

Help them to help us create Awareness that will bring
strength, love and healing
to this world.
we are ripped apart by tragedy this day
and we must learn to join together to grow
rather than remain torn apart by hate and thoughts of anger and revenge.

We light candles today
to help us find focus
to help others
in their time of need
and to heal this earth
bringing the awareness needed
for love and strength and unity.

So mote it be, Ashe.

- Astarte

The World Trade Center Fell Down Today. Terrorists, As If It Comes... Sep 11th. at 4:15:18 pm UTC

Kathleen Brown (Troy (Albany), New York US) Age: 20 - Email

The World Trade Center fell down today. Terrorists, as if it comes as much of a shock. At the time that this was happening, I was sitting out on Library hill, looking at the beautiful day-moon, watching the maple leaves flutter in the cool breeze, thinking about how much of a beautiful day it is. The day, today, is still beautiful. ItŐs cool in the shade but warm in the sun, maple seeds, on their little helicopter wings, keep pelting me from above. The trees are beautiful and green, fluttering in the breeze and happily drinking last nightŐs rain out of the earth. Everything is alive and beautiful. And not even two hours away, thousands of people lay dead. The Goddess claims back her children.

Today the Goddess wears the cloak of Artemis the huntress. She hunts on some days and on others she nurtures and creates new life. While there is death and destruction in the manmade structures and buildings of New York City, the trees blow in cool breezes, the sun shines down warm upon my hands and upturned face, and the bumblebees happily slurp at the last of the summer roses. Today the Goddess Companion spoke of the warm embrace of the Mother and at the same time the powerful reign the Goddess holds over the dead as well. There has never been a more appropriate day for that entry, which I read at about 8:45 this morning.

I am sorry for the lives that were lost; it is tragic that the Mother has sacrificed lives, but we cannot question Her intentions, we must pray only for their peaceful journey into the Summerland, and for their entrance into the warm and gentle arms of the Mother who created all of us. We must not doubt Her wisdom, but place instead our trust into her hands.

There Is A Candle Burning On My Table, Carrying My Thoughts And... Sep 11th. at 4:13:39 pm UTC

Anerak (-) Age: 36

There is a candle burning on my table, carrying my thoughts and prayers to you in the United States. What a terrible attack against humankind! Let us join together in prayer - it is the time now that religious quarrels should be set aside and that we should build on what we have in common.

With love from
Anerak (a Christo-Pagan from Germany)

I'm Utterly Shocked By What's Going On. There's Going To Be A... Sep 11th. at 4:13:10 pm UTC

Keith Hudgins (Atlanta, Georgia US) Age: 25 - Email

I'm utterly shocked by what's going on. There's going to be a Drum Circle tonight, Sep 11th, in the Atlanta area up in Alpharetta. More information is at my web site.

Thanks, guys, and my heart and much love goes out to the victims and their families.

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