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911 America: Talking Through The Terror...

Talking Through The Terror... And helping each other cope with the tragedies that struck at the very heart of the United States. The Witches Voice has opened up this forum in order that Pagans may express their thoughts on the terrorist attacks that took place in NYC and DC on September 11th. As the full realization of what happened and the toll numbers begin to come in, Americans have many challenges ahead.

What are your thoughts on these incidents? How are you feeling? Feel free to post any magickal workings or other support gatherings planned in your area.

WebNote 9/16/2001: Since we launched this on 911 this forum as become laced with powerful inspiration and critical information, feel free to use the search functions on your left to better define the info you are looking for. Search for your area, famous Pagans, key words etc. Also check Wren's Nest News for the latest news related to our community.

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In Addition To The Healing Circles That Are Even Now Being Planned... Sep 11th. at 3:50:21 pm EDT

kamaseaa (seattle, Washington US) Age: 32

>In addition to the healing circles that are even now being planned
>and taking place, I would ask for those who have ideas for strong and
>successful protection or 'binding of evildoers' rituals to share them
>with the community. Our legends say that the witches of England
>worked together to protect their country against attack. I think it's
>time for the pagans of the United States to do the same for their
>Of course, practical things like the donation of blood are also

I agree with this post that I read early. We also need to do something to insure our safety as the healing begins and continue. I hope we will also, at some time, be able to look to the future.We need both healing and protection at this time. what can we do to make our children, brothers and sister safe again?

A Quote From Starhawk's Excellent Book, The Pagan Book Of Living And... Sep 11th. at 3:49:59 pm EDT

hestia (Page, Arizona US) Age: 53

A quote from Starhawk's excellent book, The Pagan Book of Living and Dying:

"We respond to violence with rage as well as grief, and we quite often desire revenge more than healing. In the Reclaiming tradition, we acknowledge these feelings as normal and human, but we discourage the seeking of revenge, for such actions tend to become obsessive and limiting, keeping us suck in our pain. We believe in the Rule of Three, that what you send out energetically returns to you three times over, so we discourage hexing or cursing, no matter how well deserved.

"On the other hand, we do not urge anyone to forgive the murderer, to send him/her white light or healing. Forgiveness must be earned by repentance. Forgiving someone who has not changed his behavior is condoning violence.

"Instead of either revenge or forgiveness, we suggest a focus on justice. In our prayers, meditations, and rituals, we can call for justice to be done, for perpetrators to be stopped from harming others, and for violence to cease. We commit ourselves to work for justice in the world.

"Along with all the work of grieving, when violence strikes we must struggle to restore some sense of meaning, hope, and dignity to life. Private grief is not enough; only communal action can begin to assuage the pain."

Thank you, Starhawk. Life is truly precious, and as events have once again shown, hatred and prejudice are the enemies of life. Goddess bless and protect us all.

Brothers And Sisters Of The Craft,for Many People Here, The Tragic... Sep 11th. at 3:48:51 pm EDT

Morboriel Parthenos (Brooklyn, New York US) Age: 20 - Email

Brothers and Sisters of the Craft,

For many people here, the tragic events that happened this morning were just something horrible to watch live on CNN. For me they were a lot more real than that, because I live here. I was born and raised in New York, and have lived here all my life. It's the only home I've ever known. Us New Yorkers have gotten a bad rap for a lot of things over the years, people think the city is dirty, the people are rude, etc. This place isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination. But, even though there are aprox. 8 million of us living in the five boroughs, we are surprisingly close-knit. When tragedies happen we come together.

We may be a very large city, but this city is made up of neighborhoods. People from all over the world come here to make a better life for themselves and their families. Children go to school everyday. We are hard working people. We're tough people. Beyond the unfathomable loss of life, the World Trade Center meant a lot more to us than just a world financial center. As a child I remember going on lots of field trips there. I remember friends coming to visit and many happy memories there. Almost everyone in this city knows someone that works in those buildings.

I woke up this morning to absolute horror. Words can't describe it. I am terrified to leave my home. These monsters, whomever they are, tore out our heart and stomped on it. There are no words to describe the feeling here. As I sit here typing this, the air is shrouded by soot and ash. People are crying in the streets. Until an hour ago, I feared for my sister's life, and wondered if she was ever coming home again. She works further uptown, but does a lot of business at the WTC. Thankfully she is shaken up, but unharmed. However, her boyfriend works at the Pentagon, and we still have not heard anything from him.

My house is directly on the flight path from both JFK and LaGuardia Airports. A few minutes ago the house shook, ostensibly from one of the military planes. I can not help but feel this country of ours is plummeting quickly into an abyss of war and destruction.

I want to thank everyone who has sent out prayers and energy and spells of healing and protection. We New Yorkers are a tough lot, and we are pulling together as a city like never before. Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers, and may the Gods bless us all.

May you never thirst.

Dear Friends In The Pagan Community: This Day Of Unspeakable Tragedy Gives... Sep 11th. at 3:47:45 pm EDT

Andy (Boulder, Colorado US) Age: 31 - Email

Dear Friends in the Pagan Community:

This day of unspeakable tragedy gives me call to write to all of you to share a plea and a wish. It is so hard in this world to walk the path we are on, but the practice of "and ye harm none" sits very close to my heart. So much fear, horror and anger has been rained down on the bodies, minds and spirits of the world. If we let ourselves give in to anger and fear we are no better than those who committed these abominable acts. Friends I do not know, but with whom I hope I share a common belief that one may do as one will, provided that you harm none, to walk carefully in these days ahead, I implore you to walk in the world in love and trust. Match this violence with peace, strength and love.

My sorrow and shock are deep, but open your arms and let us not lash forth in anger and fear, but trust that love is stronger than hate, and that all that is done comes back to the perpetrator threefold.

With prayers for all.

In perfect Love and Perfect Trust,

My Heart Goes Out To All Who Have Been Touched By This... Sep 11th. at 3:44:32 pm EDT

Sabine (Avoca, Pennsylvania US) Age: 33 - Email

My heart goes out to all who have been touched by this great tragedy. I can only send my deep love and healing wishes to everyone. I have no idea why someone would want to do this - it makes my heart hurt. I have lost collegues (my company had an office in the trade center) as well as friends I know not by name but spirit. I only hope they find happiness in the Summerland and those who will stay with us in this plane heal quickly.

I am confused why this has happened and I am angry as well. But I will hopefully be able to turn that enegry towards healing and health.

may Brigid, Morrigan and Cerriwdan bless and protect us all.

I'm In Anaheim But I Have Most Of My Family In Ny... Sep 11th. at 3:43:32 pm EDT

Tristan Matthew Pecnik *Garou* (Anaheim, California US) Age: 19 - Email

I'm in Anaheim but I have most of my family in NY, one of my friends and fellow coven members fire was extinguished by that cowardly attack on the world trade centers. So far this morning I have done all the spellwork that I can and have visted the red cross to donate blood but still it makes me feel helpless that I can't do more. My hopes and love go out to all the people and victims affected. I wish them all bright blessings and safety in this time of crisis.

This Is Just A Short Note To Say That Everyone Who Has... Sep 11th. at 3:40:28 pm EDT

Janus (Gloucestershire, England UK) Age: 26 - Email

This is just a short note to say that everyone who has been effected on this sad day are in my thoughts and prayers this evening.

I will be lighting a candle and sending energies to whoever may need them.

May the god and godess be with you all.

Though I Do Not Live In The Affected Areas Of This Tragedy... Sep 11th. at 3:38:59 pm EDT

Faythe Tigerclaw (The Colony, Texas US) Age: 22 - Email

Though I do not live in the affected areas of this tragedy I still feel their pain. I watched in horror with thousands of others as the World Trade Towers came tumbling down this morning after a cowardly attack on our country.

I try now to overcome the instant hatred towards those who would do something like this to innocent people. There is no excuse strong enough in this world to condone what has happened today. I am thankful that I do not know anyone in the affected areas. But my mind keeps being drawn to those people that do.

Let the love of the Gods shine down on us now in our time of great need. My thoughts and prayers are with those who have been affected by this great tragedy.

My Very Dear Friends, I Have Just Seen The Breaking News , And... Sep 11th. at 3:37:58 pm EDT

Bev Richardson - Castle Pook (Castle Pook, Ireland) Age: 0

My very dear friends,

I have just seen the breaking news , and a saddened and sickened by it.

I send my own prayers and personal regrets to the American people. Speaking for the Irish pagan community as well as myself, feel the need to state how shocked and disgusted I am by this cowardly and totally meaningless attack on your nation and people... I send my humble prayers for the hurt and berieved... and the America people as a whole."

yours in love and service

There Is Nothing To Say That Hasn't Already Been Said. It Is... Sep 11th. at 3:32:44 pm EDT

Richard Koppinger (Summit, New Jersey US) Age: 37 - Email

There is nothing to say that hasn't already been said. It is as if we are at war. As far as I know, all of my family and friends are okay. Some are stranded in the city. I feel incredibly blessed that nobody I know - so far - was injured or killed. I thank the Lord and Lady for watching over them.

There are many small gatherings being held tonight. Some of my spiritual family from The Grove of Oak Community in Staten Island, NY were planning on making a trip to give blood. For those who don't know, Staten Island is one of the 5 boroughs that make up New York City. They found out on the news that the area blood banks are out of blood bags.

As for myself, I live in NJ. As the bridges are still closed so far, I will not be able to join them personally. I and other Grove members and friends from across the river will join them spiritually. However, in a time such as this, it hurts not to be with those closest to you. I would suggest to all Wiccans and Pagans to get together where possible. Let our collective voices be heard and our energy felt in the unseen realm as we work for healing and for justice.

Our priestess posted this email to our list and I thought it appropriate here. We will coordinate at 9pm as this letter suggests.


In the face of the Recent Tragedies we, As Witches and Priests and Priestesses of Various Traditions and paths of Paganism, need now more than ever to band together and do work for the Protection of our Country, and for the strength and guidance of our leaders to make the best descisions.

This is a detailed post as to a timeframe to unify our workings!! It is understood that not everyone can work together at the same time but it is requested that all effort be made to do so at this time. For those who cannot, it is ok, the energies will still combine and work together.

This is a time that all people do what they can to aid those in need. As events unfold we will assuredly discover that injury and death tolls will be in the hundreds if not thousands. All people of spiritual faith (Pagans, Christians, Jewish, Muslims, etc.) should work together and combine their workings and prayers in an unified attempt to aid those in need as well as in the quick discovery of who is responsible for this horrific act of war.

To the Pagan community that reads this is a call that all Pagans across the country focus on combining and directing their efforts and energies in this endeavor. This is a request that this evening (at approximately 9:00 pm EST) - covens, solitaries, learning circles, etc., from wherever you may be and gather together, should make a concerted effort to doing just this. THIS IS A NATIONAL CALL!! PLEASE HELP HOWEVER YOU CAN!!

Please Phone, Email, Post to other Clubs and Groups, Contact all Pagans that you can and place out this call to everyone you know!! May The Gods of those lost take their Children home. GODS BLESS AMERICA

May the Lord and Lady bless us abundantly in this trying time.

Honestly, My Thoughts Are All Still Jumbled. I Can't See The Smoke... Sep 11th. at 3:30:00 pm EDT

Karrakaz (Rahway, New Jersey US) Age: 42

Honestly, my thoughts are all still jumbled. I can't see the smoke in the air from my house, but I can from the nearest highway. I've been hearing sirens all day. I heard a helicopter and a (possibly) military jet and the sounds terrified me. I live under the take off path for Newark Airport. The sounds of commercial planes is constant and I've ignored them until now. I was wondering how many movies of this event were going to come out.

There have been a lot of World War II movies on lately, probably because of the miniseries "band of brothers" congressmen have been invoking Pearl Harbor, and I can only think we are going to war with someone.

Most damage of this magnitude in recent years has been caused by earthquakes or volcanoes: phenomena of the Earth, and things we really don't have control over, or even too much warning. The speculative fiction writers have been telling us for years that technology now gives unprecidented power to small groups of individuals. And now something has happened. People call this a worst-case scenario. It's horrible, but it's a wake-up call. I thought there was hope for the planet and for people to get along -- until today. I thought that if I minded my own business, and allowed others to get on with their lives, that things would just work. Until today. I still don't understand the reason behind this. What purpose does this serve? I had forgotten how to hate. But I am remembering.

You Can Help. Give Blood. Pray. Read Further If You Would Like... Sep 11th. at 3:29:02 pm EDT

Victoria Martyn (Grand Island, Nebraska US) Age: 23 - Email


Follow this link to learn about a coordinated magickal effort to deal with the outcome of this tragedy.

My prayers are with all. Link to More info related to this post -- HERE

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