The Witches of Gulfport- JAG (comments Pg.1)
Article ID: 2767
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Posted: April 30th. 2000
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The Witches of Gulfport
JAG Episode of 4/25/00-CBS
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Initial Thoughts from the community... (page 1 of 2)
(edited for space and in no particular order)
Both Thoore and I have been avid watchers of JAG since it first aired on television. Tuesday night's episode is one of the many reasons why. We found the show to be extremely pleasing in the way Wiccans were portrayed.
As with any spiritual belief there is always one or two bad apples that use their spiritual beliefs for their own gain thus flaming a fire of "Fables" about spiritual practices. As Rab quoted in the final scene: "The cancer has been cut out and it is time to heal."
We believe that the reason this episode surrounded the subject of "sex" in Wicca/Witchcraft is because questions of weather or not we have blood sacrifices or worship the devil have been answered as many have found out that this is most definitely not the case, yet one question still remains, it is one I have heard time and time again..."Do Witches/Wiccans indeed have wild orgies in the night...sex with multiple partners...etc?" I believe this episode will help to aid in the answer to those questions. Though neither of us agree that our "bedrooms" should be invaded to find the answer to this question, maybe this was the only way for the writers to make this point.
Overall we did find the show to be beneficial to the Wiccan/Witch community and in fact the scenes of the show with the "Commanding Officer" and the "All Seeing Evil Eye" were to us, somewhat amusing as it lent an air of "Mystery" to the show and the age-old statement of "There is no such thing as Magick!"...or is there? The writers should be highly commended on their efforts in bringing the Wiccan beliefs to light! - Raivyne.
I personally have worked with Producer Donald P. Bellisario On Quantum Leap.. In "92" Till the series Ended And, Donald knew I was A Witch and used to pump me for information along with Bakula and Stockwell. We would have long conversations about the negative limelight and the stereotypical Witch stories. And the fact is that he did ask me, "Don't people of this Religion take advantage of the titles and sex?" I had replied, "Yes it does happen. There are bad apples in all Religions... " To make a long story short- I now know why Donald was asking all those questions - Rev. Suzi Sebek.
Since Wiccans in the military are coming out of the broom closet, there is a question on how that will effect discipline. My take on the matter is that those who complain the loudest about Wiccans are probably malcontents, and if they can not complain about blacks, women, and gays in the military, they will settle on another minority that can be persecuted. The only problem is that most of these malcontents know how to grab the headlines. At least a show like JAG will help the public think twice before believing any lurid stories about Wiccans. Enjoyed JAG - Tom Canfield.
Thank you very much for this episode. Your writers did an excellent job. I am a witch. I also am a retired Naval Reservist (my priestess acted as Chaplain at my retirement ceremony 2 years ago), and I used to be stationed at CBC Gulfport - I was the editor of the SeaBee Courier in 1976-1977. This show just thrilled me. - Cheri Henderson Kovak.
I, too, watched the episode of Jag last Tuesday night. I expected to be sickened, and hurt, but was pleasantly surprised. However, I wish they, at CBS, had used a different approach to Wicca.
I'm glad that we're finally getting some good PR from those "outside", but until sex, abuse, drugs and, don't forget those pesky sacrifices we all seem to lose our invitations to, I'll take every TV show, and news article with my five pound bag of salt. - RavensEye.
I experienced a momentary shock at seeing a Fundamentalist Christian accosting Wiccans in a restaurant and babbling scripture at them. I've never personally had such a thing happen, and can't say with certainty how I'd react! I felt that the High Priestess' behavior was exemplary given the circumstances! - Morgan Ravenwood.
I, of course, think that the show was a poor representation of our way. The Chief was convicted of rape as he should have been, but, at the very least, something positive could have been said about Wicca from a Wiccan who was not on trial for rape. - N.A..
Well, I am not a big JAG fan, but I thought they did a good job in their representation of wiccans. Every religion has the potential for its leaders to be corrupted. However, I thought the references to "our enemies" was a bit much. - Bruce.
In all honesty, I did not see that episode. I know for a fact that JAG targets a military audience and I know that it draws a lot of officers because the main characters are officers. I am afraid that somewhere someone's commander or someone's supervisor saw that show and got a case of the "willies". I am also afraid that possibly that this episode may have added fuel to the fire that we military pagans have been trying to stomp out for some time. Whether or not the writers intended to target the rapist as a rapist and not the pagan community as a whole, I think that using a sex crime of all things might have some people passing judgment on our faith more so than before. I don't mean any disrespect to my officers, senior enlisted members, or my fellow Airmen, but I think CBS should have let sleeping dogs lie. Especially when the military is involved. We have enough "poop" to eat as it is with Bob Barr and others who are putting our rights in jeopardy. - C.P..
My wife and I are both long time JAG fans, but as a Wiccans we were prepared for the worst. JAG has almost always been even handed in their programming but you never know. In any event we also think the show was well done. My point is that it would be nice for us as Wiccans and Pagans to write or email CBS that we appreciate their efforts to be open and fair. If we slam-dunked them for Nash Bridges, then we should thank them for JAG. Does anyone have a good email address? - Silverwolf & Ladyhawk.
I am an on again, off again viewer of JAG, and on the whole, enjoy the show.. I was watching TV with my parents when I saw people in robes, and heard those familiar words "Listen to the words of the... ", immediately I asked that they stop channel surfing and that we watch it. They didn't want to, so I watched in another room. I wanted to see if they'd butcher Wicca or not. I think that they did a very good job.--- I liked how the hokey parts of the under officer's research were portrayed as ridiculous, and how his rantings of hokum were scoffed at. I laughed, because it seems that many people share his mentality, once they get into thinking about the whole witchcraft thing, no imagining seems too far out to atribute as witchcraft.-- All in all, I feel that the writer of the episode did a good job of addressing Wicca and the military. - Lunassa.
The episode got off to a fairly accurate start, however, they used far more poetic license with the truths of the Craft than they should have. They ALMOST got it right. Thanks for at least trying to help people understand. - Bridgid Maeve.
Being a long time fan of JAG, I was disappointed! and will be letting the network know as much. They did in my opinion take the one thing that most outsiders. Cowan don't understand our views of sexuality - they usually misunderstand it as promiscuity, which it is not! In fact, personally I interpret it as the opposite, a consideration of sex as sharing one's spirit with another. I, as Wren, was impressed with the HPs comment at the end of the show that she would have urged the other coven member to testify had she known and essentially turned the guy in. - Morrigan.
It's wonderful that at least in some respects, we are no longer looked upon or treated as "The Christian devils spawn" Perhaps one day, we will see the end of religious intolerance, and the violence that it has caused. - Morning Raven.
It was a shocker to finally see a show that did not bash the Wiccan community. As stated before, last years Nash Bridges was terrible. I stopped watching because of that one episode. I am sooooo glad that I dont have to stop watching JAG because I think the show is great. David James Elliott makes the show with his good looks and kind heart. - Katya.
I received an email from a friend warning me about the episode, since JAG is not a show I normally watch. I, too confess to a jolt when I saw the ceremony begin, and heard the Charge of the Goddess being read. Sometimes, we forget how odd our religious ceremonies might look to "outsiders." Our culture has been raised with a collective image that a bunch of people in robes around a bonfire at midnight are up to no good. Yet the ceremony (I'm assuming it was an Esbat) was beautiful.
As the episode went on, I was greatly impressed with the respect with which Wicca was treated. In fact, right at the beginning, they were almost ready to dismiss the whole case! I sat on my couch praising the Lady with tears in my eyes for the fairness and accuracy of the episode.
Although I have to admit it would have been nice if the guy had been innocent, at the end it seemed his crimes had little to do with his religion, other than the opportunity it offered him. As we all know, there are people who will abuse their power in any faith. The fact is, it was obvious that none of his crimes were about his "witchcraft" or "spells." The woman he did force into sex, he did by the old-fashioned method of being bigger and stronger. Because the rest of the episode was so well done, I feel that the Officer was judged, not the religion. Akin to perhaps a priest of another faith abusing his power, something we have seen on TV numerous times already. - Otter.
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