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INDEX: WitchWars (Fire in the Craft)

Witch Wars Splash Page

For the love of Sex

What is a Witch War?

A Field Guide to the Modern Pagan

Witch Community Thoughts Page 02

Witch Wars: For the love of Power

The Witches' Voice's Position

Do You See What I See?

Witch Wars: For the love of Money

Witch Community Thoughts Page 01

A Comunity Working on a Vaccine

What is Change and what is Changing?

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Witch Community Thoughts Page 10

Author: Pagan Communities
Posted: December 13th. 1998
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John - Jeffersonville,

"I have read a portion of the comments posted on this site and I must say. PEOPLE what the hell are we thinking Have we forgotten why the majority of us left christianity catholocism or any other religion for that matter I for one discarded the christian belief because I felt an underlying sense of something better. I knew there had to be a religionbelief which made sense. Although I am recently a believer of the lord and lady I have entertained the belief that EVERY man woman and child is entitled to there own belief. How could we possibly war about something as meeningless as tittle or leadership Rejoice in the freedom we have to pronounce to ourselves and the world I am wiccan or your belief. Remember not that long ago we could not have been so bold. The world is a most wonderful and frightening place. Live in it as best you can BUT HARM NONE by word or action. Be a knowledgable part of your community not a part of the problem. Please dont say spitefull things simply to hurt. I have felt so much love since I became wiccan. Please lets not destroy our dream. I know I have much to learn dont we all Blessed be and peaceful Journey. John"

Date Posted: 7/5/1999   Email:

Chalkoss - Detroit, Michigan
United States

"I believe a good way of avoiding many of the conflicts of Power Money and Sex can be avoided by requiring ethically speaking covens to state their ways and traditions in detail and place this information on paper where it can be read by those considering to become new initiates. My own personal experience was not that bad - I joined a group not knowing the whole story. They were insistant about reading my Book of Shadows hinted strongly that the High Priest was *required* to have ritual sex with the High Priestess ect ect. To my relief I was quickly asked to leave due to the fact that I didnt go for any of these ideas. The point is that all that hassle could have been avoided if I was told ahead of time instead of after I joined. A simple format could be established especially for coven listings on-line including tradions of path sexuality environmental issues technology financial matters and especially how leaders are chosen or appointed. Is it a democracy dictatorship or monarchy And so on. It may be worth considering."

Date Posted: 7/16/1999   Email:

Collie Valadez - Sunland, California
United States

"Because of so much ego input from people I studied with and dealt with as I explored my Pagan path and how I wished to develop it to help my fellow man I came up with a notice I post at the entrance to all my Open Ritual Celebrations. Please feel free to use this if you feel so inclined and can relate to the message contained within. NOTICE. TO ALL WITCHES. PLEASE PARK YOUR BROOMSTICK AND PERSONAL BULLSHIT OUTSIDE. This includes issues and used tissues and axes to grind and any complaints of any kind. And bristles and thistles and thoughts of thorn. And woman scorned and unadorned. And men who cheat and steal and lie at the expense of those who cry. Any and all of these items will be waiting at the door for you when you leave..... Please remove any and all items when you leave. Any of these items left on the premises will be towed and cursed at the owners expense. If violated the threefold law will be applied severely. As ye do plant so shall ye harvest. Blessed Be. The Management. Of course this is written in a poetic style with correct punctuation to give it the punch it requires but this format does not allow that to happen here. This is given to you within the spirit of service and unconditional love which is the only form we allow in our circle. Blessed Be. Collie"

Date Posted: 7/19/1999   Email:

Warlock John Seltzer - Anaheim, California
United States

"To Whom... When it comes down to infighting I have to ask myself this question. How does this serve the Gods? No matter what your coven ranking is or what sect of Wicca you belong to you are a PriestPriestess and our first job is spirituality. I dont remember who it was that wrote this but I think it holds a lot of water in this situation- When a person enters the craft they have two basic paths they can take ego or spirituality Chose one and fight the other for as long as you practice B. B. warlock John"

Date Posted: 7/23/1999   Email: None

Dairhean - Chickasha, Oklahoma
United States

"I grew up Pagan but was isolated from the community. The word Witch/Pagan was never spoken in my home and there was no reference to any deity. We worshipped the Earth and that was it. It was my freshman year of college before I discovered who I was. That is I realized I was a Witch or Pagan. I am solitary but not by choice. I have met other Pagans at college over the 4 years I have been here but they will not worship or practice with me because they are afraid of group practice. They are all solitary by choice. The nearest Church and store is 60 miles from where I live. I have been there a few times and am presently engaged to the son the the Priest and Priestess of my Church. I still feel very isolated and spiritually lonely because my fiance and I are from very different backgrounds. I am Old Path Pagan and he is Circle Wiccan. That is how the distinction is made in Oklahoma. Nonetheless I am a minority within a minority. Other Pagans or Witches do not accept me. I am what others refer to as a Redneck Pagan. They all thought I was a myth. I thought Circle Witches were a myth too because I have never been in a Circle except for one Beltane with my Church. The Witches Voice allows me to have contact with the community that I have always longed to be a part of. Thank you Wren and Blessed be."

Date Posted: 7/30/1999   Email:

NightBird - St.Paul, Minnesota
United States

"I have been Wiccan for three years and despite trying to be open minded I can only find groups that offer Gardenerian training. Iam not interested in this Path and so I find myself as a Solitary when I feel I could work with a group so much better. I have had nothing but trouble with Witch Wars with local Gardenerians who thought THEIR WAY was the only one. It was horrible and escalated quickly into a flame war. Yes I acted badly but they also told lies about me. The best way to handle these situations is to just back away from them and let the matter go. I believe the Witch community is becoming so homogenous with the popularity of Gardenerian and Alexandrian Traditions that we are suffering as a whole. The way for the Craft to survive and grow is by DIVERSITY. By sharing information not keeping secrets. Pass your knowledge along so that all may learn. My wish is to see the Dianics working alongside with men as we need balance. To see everyone put aside their power trips and control issues and do honor to the divine which is in everything. Only by doing so can we truely bring into being the World we ALL want. Be at peace."

Date Posted: 8/2/1999   Email:

Elwing - Reisterstown, Maryland
United States

"Being a newbee to the community at large I was astounded by the fact that already I have been embroiled in a Witch War between two High Priestesses. Unwittingly I had contributed to the War and of course hindsight is enlightening. I did attempt to stop the War due to great discomfort on my part but I lost a friendship and a number of other things as well. My advice thoughts and position on the matter of Witch Wars is . . .When you have a problem with someone or a group or an entity consider these questions before speaking to anyone regarding the above mentioned.Is what you have to say truth. Truth may only be spoken from your own experiences not what you think the other person is feeling or what hisher intentions are. Use I statements to convey what you are feeling and what your intentions are.Is what you have to say respectful. If youre going to say something show respect for the other persons feelings even if you do not like the person. A respectfully worded truth will receive consideration wheareas a thoughtless comment will spark resentment and possibly start a War.Is what you have to say necessary. Choose your Battles wisely. If the issue isnt all that important to you dont say something just to stir up the hornet nest. Usually you end up getting stung so if you have to shake things up make sure its necessary. Let the little stuff go and most of it is little stuff.And heres the final question . . .Can you speak your truthful respectful words to the person who needs to hear them. Your friend with the willing ear is not the proper forum to air your grievances. The person who speaks ill against a common enemy is not the person who needs to hear what you have to say. If you cannot speak to the person who has inspired your anger wrath mild irritation then do not speak to anyone else unless it is a trained counselor your therapist or the group elder assigned and trained to handle such situations. These people should be able to help you sort out angry confused feelings so that you can approach the situation truthfully respectfully and as needed."

Date Posted: 8/2/1999   Email:

Sarah - Fresno, California
United States

"Rather than argue lets celebrate our common ground. United we stand strongly as one belief system. It doesnt make sense to quibble with each other -- there are too few of us. Accept all differences and learn from them -- isnt that what this religion is all about Who forgot that part"

Date Posted: 8/12/1999   Email:

Celeste Nightwalker - Salt Lake City, Utah
United States

"We have come too far endured too much to be weighed down by this now. Finally we are beginning to find true acceptance in this mainly Christian world. I believe that if we band together to break down the last few barriers that we face we will find ourselves less critical of our own. I am a writer and have written a poem that I think fits this situation quite well. PRIDE Why do we do these things to each other Brothers and sisters all Why do insist on judging the different Are we truly so ashamed of ourselves That what we dont understand must be wrongWe are one We are a family Billions strong Treat the stranger as your friend The poor man is your brother Give peace and pride to all June 15 1999 We have come so far fighting intolerance but now we find it amongst ourselves. Remember the Charge of the Goddess. We must love all things. We must love all that is beautiful and all things are beatiful in one way or another. The Goddess would never create nor allow ugliness in her world. Farewell and Goddess bless


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