TWV Presents...



Articles/Essays From Pagans

[Show all]

Views: 15,126,407
May 19th. 2013 ...
 The Role of Identity in Magic
 Talking Trash? It's a Dirty Subject but Waste Happens.
 Earth Angels
 My Wiccan Journey
 13 Keys: The Victory of Netzach

May 12th. 2013 ...
 Pagan Studies I: How Should We Define Modern Paganism?
 The Third Path
 Nothing Special... Part Two
 Exploring Paganism

May 5th. 2013 ...
 Nothing Special.
 The Value of Multicultural Awareness
 Put Your Back Into It (Our Lady of the Sacred Honey Badger)
 Moon Musings, Planetary Preponderances and Red Lipped Bat Fish

April 28th. 2013 ...
 Lessons from the Lessers: Iris

April 21st. 2013 ...
 Taken By The Goddess: The Crescent Moon Tattoo
 The Gods/Being Godbothered
 To Be A Witch
 The Archetypes are Gods: Re-godding the Archetypes

April 14th. 2013 ...
 On The Inclusion of Children
 'Wand Fun' With Grandson
 Lessons from a Baby
 Lessons of Freedom: On Divinity and Healing

April 7th. 2013 ...
 Out of the Broom Closet... Sorta
 A Journey Through the Witches Tarot
 History and Science Behind Numerology

March 31st. 2013 ...
 What is the Magickal Self?
 Ethics and Numerology

March 24th. 2013 ...
 Keystones of the Sacred Land

March 17th. 2013 ...
 Why Some Pagans and Witches Still Hide
 Witch Heritage 101: What Happens When Witch Haters Joke about anti-Witch Films
 I'm Not a Broom. So What's with the Closet?

March 10th. 2013 ...
 Top Ten Stupid Things I Did as a New Pagan: Part 3
 Hunting for the Real Witch in Film
 The Collective Shadow
 Lies - The Opposite of Truth

March 3rd. 2013 ...
 Grounding and Releasing Negative Energy
 A Patchwork of Magick

February 24th. 2013 ...
 Top Ten Stupid Mistakes I Made as a New Pagan (Part Two)

February 17th. 2013 ...
 Top Ten Stupid Mistakes I made as a New Pagan... Part One
 Gardening with Crystal Energies
 A Call from the Ancestors
 Moon Musings, Planetary Preponderances and Black Water Snakes

February 10th. 2013 ...
 We Are the Weirdos, Mister: A Completely Uncool Story of Origin

February 3rd. 2013 ...
 "I'll Grind Your Bones to Make my Bread": Pagans and Animal Husbandry
 The Role of Contemporary Culture in Magic
 A Pagan Response to Endangered Earth
 The Great Mother's Gift, Heinlein, and the Nature of Squirrels
 13 Keys: The Glory of Hod

January 27th. 2013 ...
 Why We Do Need Wicca
 The Cosmos In the Coffee Shop
 Learning Consciousness
 On Travel Spirituality and Magick
 Gratitude

January 20th. 2013 ...
 Beloved Backs and How to Save Them
 Building or Burning Bridges?
 Plants, Magic and Intuition
 Plagiarism - How It Harms Our Community
 Looking Back

January 13th. 2013 ...
 Ramblings of a Pagan Guy: Stupid Clichés
 Know Thyself
 The Magick and Power of Words
 Aging Is Not Easy
 The Riddle of Who We Are?

January 6th. 2013 ...
 Wicca v Witchcraft
 Innate Paganism
 A Witch in the Closet
 Gut Hunches, Mouse Dreams, and Pinkie Sense
 How Many People Can You Fit Under An Umbrella?
 Coming Home

December 30th. 2012 ...
 Ritual "Cheat Sheet" Bracelet
 Magick is All Around Us
 Confessions of a Living Satyr
 A Tiny Bit of Belly Dance History

December 23rd. 2012 ...
 The Warrior Goddess and You.
 World Change: A Message from Greece
 What's the Meaning of Life, Anyway?
 My Brother's Keeper

December 16th. 2012 ...
 Keeping Christ in Xmas
 Love is the Law
 Listen to Your Heart's Wisdom

NOTE: For a complete list of articles related to this chapter... Visit the Main Index FOR this section.
|
|  |


Article Specs

Article ID: 10711

VoxAcct: 149682

Section: words

Age Group: Adult

Days Up: 2,533
Times Read: 9,095

RSS Views: 72,208
| Christian Wiccan—No Such Thing

Author: Chris K Underwood
Posted: June 18th. 2006
Times Viewed: 9,095
Do you call yourself a Christian Wiccan?
Let me start by saying right off that from my prospective as a Wiccan and a student of religions there is no such thing as a “Christian Wiccan.”
Right about here is the point where many of you jump to your feet and pick up long verbal baseball bats to beat me with, but please give me a chance to explain my thoughts on the subject before the lynching.
I am not talking about your beliefs! Let me say this again because I want you to remember it as you read this article: I am not talking about your beliefs!
Got that? Let me clarify even further. As a Wiccan I believe that you can worship and believe anything you wish to; Wiccans support the right of all people to find their own spirituality and believe that all paths are valid. Now, with all that being said, I bet you are wondering how I can say that there is no such thing as a “Christian Wiccan” if I believe that all paths are valid. Am I saying that the “Christian Wiccan” path is not valid? No, I am not!
The deal here for me is a matter of defining the words and the fact that Wicca is a religion, not about personal beliefs and manner of worship. I really do not care one way or another what your beliefs are—I like hearing about and talking to people about their various paths, but have no feeling one way or the other about how or why people believe what they do.
Do I think you can be a Christian who practices Wicca? Sure I do; even though Christians may not think it’s OK, I have no problem with it. If you have found a way to incorporate those beliefs that works for you, go for it. I only have a problem with you calling the resulting belief system “Wicca,” and here is why.
Wicca is a religion with a set system of beliefs, rituals, cosmology, and theology. Even though it is a modern religion created in the last fifty years, it is still a religion. Wicca is based on the worship and theology of ancient deities and cultures. The reason I see a problem in calling yourself a “Christian Wiccan” is twofold.
The first has to do with Christianity itself. (No I’m not against Christianity; please read on before jumping to conclusions.) Simply put, Christianity is based on the idea that Jesus Christ was a god. Wiccans do not believe this. The Christian deity of Jesus just has no place in Wiccan theology. Wiccans, as I stated earlier, worship ancient pantheons thousands of years older than the Christian mythology (I’m not saying older is better; I’m just listing the difference). Also Wicca is a polytheistic religion, so the idea of the Christian god just does not fit into the Wiccan belief system.
I have communicated with many who jump up and down in their computer chairs and tell me, “Yeah, well, we are Wiccan and Jesus is the God with Mary is the Goddess.” I think that’s great, but it’s not a Wiccan concept, which leads me to my second point.
Your personal beliefs do not give you the power to change the definition of an already existing system. I say this, and some have said, “What? I’m not trying to change Wicca!” But that’s exactly what you are doing. By declaring and fighting for the right to call yourself a “Christian Wiccan,” you are demanding that what is possible in the Wiccan religion and even its very definition be changed to suit your beliefs.
Wiccans do not believe Jesus was a god, but you are saying that they can. Wiccans do not follow any of the Christian theology, but you are saying they do. How can we define anything if people just define it anyway they wish? Besides the fact that “Christian Wiccans” hold contradictory theologies, I compare this belief to someone calling themselves a “Christian-Atheist”: it just does not make sense. You cannot change the definition of Wicca to suit your personal beliefs.
Let me say again what I have said before: I have no problem with what people believe and support your right to do as you please. I only have a problem with what you are calling it.
One young lady I spoke with was very passionate and very intelligent. She just seemed not to understand that I was speaking in terms of semantics rather than her right to believe what she wants. She argued with me in a very passionate manner and became upset that I would even suggest anything to the contrary. I admire that kind of passion, but the bottom line here was that I never said she could not be both Christian and Wiccan at the same time. How you work that out is entirely up to you. I only ask for those of you who have these beliefs to look at the words you are using and how they impact others of that belief system.
The word “Wicca” is a noun, not a verb describing a state of mind. Nouns, as you know, are a words that refer to a person, place, or thing, and in this case is a proper noun demanding capitalization. Wicca is much more than just its component parts and rituals. It already exists as a belief system with certain obligations and requirements that must be met for one to consider oneself a Wiccan. If you do not believe in the theology of the system, then you are not part of it; you are something else.
A couple of other arguments I have heard recently along these lines also do not fit with the situation. Some have smacked me with things similar to “All religions evolve and change over time.” This is very true, but to what extent? Are you suggesting that Wicca can evolve and change to the point where all the original ideas and concepts are gone? If so, then I submit that you have proven my point because if those original concepts are removed or replaced, then Wicca no longer is what it was. A good number of Jews changed, evolved, and added new concepts to their religion about two thousand years ago. They didn’t call themselves "Jews" anymore; they called themselves "Christians."
Just as in this situation—they did not spend the last two thousand years calling themselves Christian-Jews. They took on a new name befitting what their new beliefs. That is what I am suggesting to those who call themselves “Christian Wiccans.” There really is no such thing, so why not come up with another name for what you believe? You cannot change Wicca, so either chose to be Wiccan or not. Those of us who are Wiccans will always support you and your personal beliefs.
Copyright: Permission to freely distribute is granted as long as the original content and credit is maintained.

ABOUT...

Chris K Underwood
Location: Palm Beach County, Florida
 Author's Profile: To learn more about Chris K Underwood - Click HERE

Other Articles: Chris K Underwood has posted 6 additional articles- View them?
 Other Listings: To view ALL of my listings: Click HERE

Email Chris K Underwood... (Yes! I have opted to receive invites to Pagan events, groups, and commercial sales)

|
|
Web Site Content (including: text - graphics - html - look & feel)
Copyright 1997-2013 The Witches' Voice Inc. All rights reserved
Note: Authors & Artists retain the copyright for their work(s) on this website.
Unauthorized reproduction without prior permission is a violation of copyright laws.
Website structure, evolution and php coding by Fritz Jung on a Macintosh G5.
Any and all personal political opinions expressed in the public listing sections (including, but not restricted to, personals, events, groups, shops, Wren’s Nest, etc.) are solely those of the author(s) and do not reflect the opinion of The Witches’ Voice, Inc. TWV is a nonprofit, nonpartisan educational organization.
Sponsorship: Visit the Witches' Voice Sponsor Page for info on how you can help support this Community Resource. Donations ARE Tax Deductible.
The Witches' Voice carries a 501(c)(3) certificate and a Federal Tax ID.
Mail Us: The Witches' Voice Inc., P.O. Box 341018, Tampa, Florida 33694-1018 U.S.A.
|  |
Witches, Pagans of The World



|


Current Topic
Editorial Guide
NOTE: The essay on this page contains the writings and opinions of the listed author(s) and is not necessarily shared or endorsed by the Witches' Voice inc.
The Witches' Voice does not verify or attest to the historical accuracy contained in the content of this essay.
All WitchVox essays contain a valid email address, feel free to send your comments, thoughts or concerns directly to the listed author(s).
|
|