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2/20/2008
7:29:38 pm EST
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Couple Jailed For Contempt In Vilification Case
Author: Barney Zwartz Source: The Age (AU)
Title: COUPLE JAILED FOR CONTEMPT IN VILIFICATION CASE
A NSW couple who defied a court order under Victoria's religious vilification law are both serving nine months in Victorian prisons.
Vivienne Legg and Dyson Devine posted on their website claims that an occult group, the Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO), was really a pedophile ring in Victoria, and that its activities included hosting parties at which naked children served as waiters and members had sex with and murdered children.
Victorian police went to their home at Tucabia on the NSW north coast to bring them to Melbourne for a contempt hearing on November 27, when the OTO complained the article was still on the website, gaiaguys.net.
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| Hmm... | Feb 21st. at 3:02:52 pm EST
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Dawn Phoenix (Portland, Oregon) - Email Me
Now, I know that the OTO doesn't engage in that sort of activity. However, the story stated that the couple in question had posted an article to their website that was actually written by someone else. I think the situation becomes a little bit more grey there, because it becomes a question of censorship. Did the couple actually accuse the local branch of the OTO in engaging in those activities, or did they post an article that someone else had written claiming that the OTO at large does? Certainly, the article's author was in the wrong, but what was the intention in posting the article for the couple? Did they simply read it and believe it and think that others might want access to the article? Or were they deliberately engaging in slander on a local group? I would need more information to make a judgment on this one.
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| If They Run The Vilification Laws Like Libel Laws | Feb 21st. at 1:09:50 pm EST
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Shadowbear (Hillsboro, Oregon) - Email Me
and the main point is that what you say is factually untrue - like consuming children or having sex with dead children etc - AND likely to produce revulsion or contempt in others - as the aforementioned acts with children would - then the laws will work. They only work if OPINION about the wrongness of the religion and their members is not legally vilification. Saying that the OTO members are pagans and therefore going to hell would not count, saying they are demon worshippers might still be opinion because christians believe every supernatural entity other than their god is either satan or a demon. But, when you actually say THIS OTO group is doing these ACTUAL things that are crimes you have gone too far. Unless you have the pictures and evidence to back it up - and, if you do, why did you not go to the police with your evidence - you are just telling lies to injure someone and that has been against the libel and slander laws for a long time (they just weren't criminal laws) .
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| Prefer To Pursue Libel Charges | Feb 21st. at 8:53:43 am EST
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Just A Wolf (Seward, Michigan) - Email Me
Instead of having villification laws, the system should allow the OTO to pursue damages for libel against the couple. Taking their money is a quick way to get them to shut-up about bogus pedophilia charges.
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| ... | Feb 20th. at 9:37:11 pm EST
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Draken (Bronx, New York) - Email Me - Web
I'd hate to state this, but if we had religious vilification laws here in the US, half of the people posting comments in Wren's Nest (myself included) would be in jail for a VERY long time. Besides, Fred Phelps and the Church of the Inbred Family is always good for a cheap laugh; they honestly think people care about them!
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| Highly Unlikely | Feb 20th. at 9:15:51 pm EST
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Rutilus Draconis (Fair Haven, Michigan) - Email Me
The OTO is an off shoot of the Golden Dawn which focuses on ceremonial magick based on Qabalah among other things. I know for a fact that children are not allowed in GD temples period and I'm sure it similar for OTO temples. This is just another ill informed moron sprouting accusations about things their feeble little minds cannot understand. I've never seen a GD ritual that involved blood this is just asinine. On another note the U.S. should have laws regarding religious vilification, just think Fred Phelps behind bars where he belongs being a good "friend" to his cell mate. Well one can dream...
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