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8/1/2005
12:35:18 pm EDT
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Witch's Salvo Lawsuit Fails
Author: Danny Rose Source: The Australian (AU)
Title: WITCH'S SALVO LAWSUIT FAILS
A jailed sex offender and self-proclaimed witch - who claims that a Christian-based prisons program incited hatred against occultists - has lost another bid to sue the Salvation Army for vilification.
Robin Fletcher, 49, who is serving a 10-year sentence for crimes including drugging and sexually assaulting two 15-year-old girls, had launched a complaint under Victoria's anti-vilification laws.
The complaint took in the Salvation Army, Corrections Victoria and CMC Australasia Pty Ltd, which was the distributor of a Christian-based program called Alpha.
Fletcher had argued that the Alpha program - in which he had volunteered to take part - had incited hatred against wiccans, occultists and pagans.
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| Basically... | Aug 1st. at 9:40:47 pm EDT
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Perihelion Xanateris (Tamworth, New South Wales) - Email Me
...the guy wasted his breath and the authorities' time complaining. He shouldn't have volunteered in the first place if he didn't want to be preached to. They can proselytize all they like; the Anti-Discrimination Act only stops them from doing what the fundies do in America. Not that the Salvos would pull those kinds of stunts anyway...
Note: The only reason that the Anti-Discrimination Act provisions are possible is because we don't have the First Amendment. Explains an awful lot, doesn't it?
In Goddess and in Reason
Shar
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| No Sympathy. | Aug 1st. at 6:05:32 pm EDT
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Avagdu (Independence, Missouri) - Email Me
we read: "drugging and sexually assaulting two 15-year-old girls."
ummm....really wrong. he deserves to be in jail, imo. also, he voluntarily joined said group. again, i wouldn't join groups like this for that very reason.
I have no sympathy for him, what he did was wrong and he deserves to be punished to the fullest the law will allow.
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| One Right Way Wrong? | Aug 1st. at 5:20:35 pm EDT
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Terry (Irvington, Virginia) - Email Me
As a start, let's get over the notion that inmate civil rights cases rely on litigants who'd make ideal public relations models. Such cases are important in defining rights based on worst case boundaries, and inmates often have done less harm to fewer victims than many politicians, cops enforcing illegal or not yet overturned maliciously discriminatory laws, or corporate predators.
The core issue of this case is whether "one right way" religions can legitimately coexist with other religions, not under US laws designed to protect weird hate cults like many xtian sects are in practice, but a different sort of rights law which censors demonization of neighbors, and equates speech with thought in those restrictions.
I strongly suspect that were the weird religious hate cult of supremacist "one right way-ism" that suggests witches should be exterminated weren't so prolific in the guise of pretend Jesus worship (even if closer to doctrinal Paulist humanism, worshiping human perversion of the prior biblical religion) , so-called christianity in many forms would be found illegal to practice as many hate cultists do so. As such, unless this particular Alpha program is far more constrained than is typical of its sponsors, and taught their biblical jurisdiction doesn't apply to "the other people", the judge likely engaged in popular fraud suggesting any program of intolerant supremacist proselytization could comply with law of Australia, or similar laws of Canada, Britain, etc.
It'd be mighty interesting seeing how a judge worded an opinion finding in that direction, in effect banning so-called christianity as practiced by all but a few of the most liberal sects.
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| Slight Errors | Aug 1st. at 2:12:15 pm EDT
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Ahr-Ohn (Bridgeport, Connecticut) - Email Me
"He said Christians were entitled to say to a witch "If you want to be a Christian you must renounce witchcraft" and the same rule applied for Christians considering witchcraft."
If a Witch is to become that type of Christian, certainly abandoning any realization of a higher reality would be prerequisite, but for a Christian to become a Witch, learning what Jesus was actually talking about is a big help.
Also, many pagan traditions are popular in Prison, but Wicca won't be popular in that prison, as long as it's associated with someone who drug-rapes virgins.
Arawn
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| Huh? | Aug 1st. at 1:31:09 pm EDT
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Dee Moonhawk (Florence, Mississippi) - Email Me
I've been involved with the Salvation Army before (home for unwed mothers) , so knowing what I know about them, well, I'm confused.
The article plainly states - "Fletcher had argued that the Alpha program - in which he had volunteered to take part - had incited hatred against wiccans, occultists and pagans. ".
Why would a Pagan - self proclaimed or otherwise - volunteer to be a part of ANY program the Salvation Army was involved in? Or any other evangelical group? For an easier time, to see what they taught so he could sue, what? I don't understand.
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