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11/6/2005
6:58:44 pm EST
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Cannabis oil coming
Author: Doug Beazley Source: Edmonton Sun
Title: Cannabis oil coming
Coming to a pharmacy near you: a bong in a bottle.
Just kidding. Actually, the Med-Marijuana line of herbal remedies contains so little of the psychoactive ingredient found in weed, you could down a whole bottle without feeling the slightest buzz.
"You can take this stuff till hell freezes over and you're not going to get a minute of euphoria," said Bob Martin, a Calgary life insurance salesman who recently got the rights to distribute the hemp-derived remedies in southern Alberta. He said he hopes to start selling the products in Edmonton soon.
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| Correction | Nov 9th. at 9:50:48 am EST
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Storm Summerhaven (Lanark County, Ontario) - Email Me
A previous poster mentioned that most baby-boomers were born with Neptune in Scorpio. Just wanted to make a correction, in case anyone ends up passing on this information to someone else.
This poster was obviously misinformed by her source: virtually ALL baby-boomers were born with Neptune in Libra. Neptune's ingress into Scorpio, in fact , marked the arrival of "Gen-X".
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| I Don't Understand | Nov 8th. at 10:30:27 am EST
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Corvis (Greenbelt, Maryland) - Email Me
From what I gather this is about vegetable oil, not smoking marijauna, or legallizing marijauna -- it's about the vegetable oil, which can't get you high in any which way. It's also already been available here for some time, so I don't understand the controversy.
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| I Respectfully Disagree. | Nov 7th. at 10:23:02 pm EST
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Susan (Mayer, Arizona) - Email Me
MOST of the indigineous religions the world over, INCLUDING the Norse religions, used some sort of mind altering substance as an intrinsic part of their worship services, in order to allow the average person access to an alternate mindset in order to open themselves up to communication with the Divine Presence (s) . Don't believe me? Well then, what is mead?? Have you ever made your own? Have you ever added herbs to it? Trust me, it's a mind altering substance.
Marijuana was burned in BIG bonfires in Turkey and other places.
Marijuana was made illegal as a direct result of the movie made during the 30's about it. Total hysteria--guys smoke it and go rape women, women smoke it and have crazy sex, you name it. The movie was fronted by people (alcohol and pharmaceutical industries for one) who had a vested interest in making it illegal.
Anyone who has studied herbal medicine for any length of time has realized the benefits of the active ingredients in hemp and marijuana; they don't necessarily need to be smoked in order to be beneficial. The fact that there aren't any real studies about this reflects the fact that our government, at least, doesn't WANT there to be any...they don't want to have to admit they might be wrong. There weren't any studies about St. John's Wort 10 years ago, either, nor ephedrine, nor lots of other herbs whose efficacy is now borne out by sound research.
BTW, Wren doesn't get paid to put articles on this site, and she shouldn't be lambasted by anyone for putting things here that ARE of interest to many of us. It DOES relate to Pagans, and even many Heathens, and I for one thank her for putting it here.
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| MedWeed | Nov 7th. at 2:06:27 pm EST
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Mysteries Child (Garfield, West Virginia) - Email Me
OK, I spent the years between seventeen and twenty-two pretty much chronically stoned. I come from a family where everyone from my 73-year-old stepmother to my 17-year-old cousin smokes. Most of the kids started around the age of 12, and it's pretty much taken for granted that their kids will do it too.
I really don't see the benefit of self-medicating with marijuana.
It did destroy the ability to hang on to a thought long enough to get depressed about it, and it's still the only thing that can make the SpongeBob SquarePants movie (or a weekend at my parents') tolerable, but on the whole I don't think I had even half a good idea.
For me, the anti-depressant effects lasted only as long as the buzz did (hence I stayed high for five years) . The minute I started to come down, the not-unhappyness was gone. And, yes, the fact of self-medicating with a currently illegal drug is that you have to come down sometime.
The anxiety never left. Most of my friends preferred me stoned because, instead of telling them what was on my mind, I sat in a corner and read a book, too afraid of censure to open my mouth.
The amotivational syndrome stuck around for about 18 months after I got pregnant and decided my child should at least get to make her own choice about whether or not to get high.
I won't argue that it affects everyone the same way it did me. I won't argue that it's a terrible recreational habit, or a gateway drug.
That, as so many others have said, depends on the temperament of the individual. After seeing how much pot affected my mind--and how much I came to depend on it to keep my problems at bay instead of dealing with them--I realized in a hurry that I never wanted to touch any other recreational substance.
This, however, is not about the relative utility or destructiveness of THC. It's not about the dangers or benefits of getting high.
This is about an alleged medical product that makes use of hemp oil. Not really marijuana at all. Calling this "medical marijuana" is kind of like smoking hemp twine, hoping to get off.
I support it with the same cautionary statements I do most of these products. It could help. Absent any intoxicating effects, I see no reason why it should be any more difficult to obtain than echinacea or St. John's Wort.
The single caution I would offer is, while there is nothing wrong with herbal medicine, plenty of these products still amount to the same vial of snake-oil as those sex-drive-enhancing, bust-enlarging, penis-lengthening wonderpills that people plague my inbox with attempts to sell.
There are good people in the world who want to help others with their knowledge and experience. There are also plenty of people who want to take advantage of others' reactions and hopes to make a quick payday.
Depending on how it interacts with your personality (and your ability to be honestly aware of those interactions) , a nice fat joint is not an objectively horriffic way to pass an evening now and again.
It is not, however, a constructive way of life on a day-to-day basis. Marijuana may not be a gateway drug, and it may not have the same physiological addictive properties as alcohol or tobacco et al, but it is still perfectly possible to develop a dependency on it.
Anyone who doesn't believe me should hear the screaming up my relatives' holler when the bi-monthly shipment doesn't come thru. On those occasions, it's an excellent place to avoid.
Marijuana is not a solution to depression, anxiety, or a host of other psychological problems, any more than prescription psychotropics are. Medicating the symptoms is not the same as solving the problem.
And often enough, people are more than happy to market "remedies" that will do about as much to solve your medical problems as a bag of oregano and pencil shavings will do to get you high.
Be careful out there.
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| I Use It All The Time | Nov 7th. at 9:57:33 am EST
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Corvis (Greenbelt, Maryland) - Email Me
It is imported legally from Canada and can be found in (a few) health food stores. It is the vegetable oil with the highest amount of essential fatty acids and taken internally and used topically is very good for excema. I use it in soapmaking and making ungents and balms.
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| The Article Belongs Here ... | Nov 7th. at 8:38:09 am EST
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Cheryl Grant (Oakville, Ontario) - Email Me
because a majority of Pagans are forward-thinking liberals. And most who fit into that category believe in the benefits of medical marijuana ...
I personally have never used it, but that doesn't mean that I wouldn't if I needed it for helping with pain or cancer treatments, etc.
Wren does a good job in putting appropriate articles into the Nest, so I think we should all back off a bit ...
C.
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| Sorry, Gotta Disagree . . . | Nov 7th. at 8:02:01 am EST
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Arion The Blue (Durham, North Carolina) - Email Me
This is relevent to many pagans, both as an herbal issue and because some pagans consider marijuana a sacramental herb.
Sure, some may find this distateful and illegal and fattening, but just as Christians who have wine at communion aren't all raving alcoholics, neither is a Pagan who tokes up necessarily a heroin addict in the making.
I've known several people with cancer (I live in a town where Cancer is a big thing) and despite the massive pharmacopia available, there are several who are comforted by the herb when no other drug works. I personally know six oncologists (yes, it's that kind of town) and all six don't hesitate to reccomend it to their patients. They aren't too worried about their patients moving on to "harder" drugs, because the fact is that smoking weed often lessens the need for opiates or other addictive painkillers -- and it certainly improves appetite.
This article belongs here -- Paganism is a big tent, and many feel that the current laws against marijuana are unjust, and some others feel that marijuana helps them with their practice. Right or wrong, that is their sincerely and deeply held belief.
Arion the Blue
High Druid of Durham
City of Medicine
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| Would Think This Fell Under Natural Medicines | Nov 7th. at 6:27:31 am EST
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Christina Aubin (North Shore, Massachusetts) - Email Me
I think this is akin to the articles about primrose oil, foxglove ( Digitalis ) or other herbals and natural medicines - it is just more information about a alternative medicinal claim, just because it is derived from a plant that is considered a drug by society, deemed correct by some and incorrect by others, does not diminish the compounds that can be extracted from it, partiuclary those that can be used without side effect. Time will tell whether this oil has benefits or not -
I do not think the posting of this article has any impact or implication other than yet another naturally based alternative medicine.
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| Hmm. | Nov 7th. at 3:18:27 am EST
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Llunmere (Germantown Hills, Illinois) - Email Me
I absolutely agree with you. I don't see a reason for this article to be here at all, other than the so-called euphoric "experiences" that those who aren't even pagan claim to have. It is true that most herbs defined as "drugs" or "poisonous" have been found to treat certain diseases such as cancer (such as a chemical found in mandrake) . However, I don't see any reason for this topic to be here other than the fact that it's being produced in an oil form (maybe some people like the smell a whole lot) . I don't know.
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