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3/30/2007
7:45:04 am EDT
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What Is Magic?
Author: Gulf Times Source: Gulf Times (Qatar)
Title: WHAT IS MAGIC?
The word magic has many definitions, the most inclusive used by Muslim scholars is that magic is any phenomenon that has invisible causes or that is seen or imagined differently from its reality, due to disguise or trickery. Other scholars define magic more narrowly as the art of producing in nature, with the help of the demons, things beyond the power of men. In fact, there are many types of magic, some are all illusions and trickery, others are real and occur with the help of the devil.
Real magic
It is defined as the magic that has a concrete physical reality. It is also called sorcery or witchcraft, and it is one of two types.
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| Same Old Dogma. | Mar 30th. at 7:28:43 pm EDT
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bigcat (peoria, Illinois) - Email Me
Magic, apparently is in the eye of the beholder.
The Fundies believe that if they can't explain it away as one of their "patent" miracles, then it's the work of their devil. There is nothing more and nothing less.
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| ... | Mar 30th. at 6:13:46 pm EDT
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Draken (Bronx, New York) - Email Me - Web
To all those naysayers who denounced my statement "christianism and islam are opposite sides of the same terrorism coin," I have this to say: This is proof. Read the f**king article.
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| Magic More Like Quantum Physics Than. . . | Mar 30th. at 4:38:32 pm EDT
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Shadowbear (Hillsboro, Oregon) - Email Me
consorting with demons. I can create things, or move them, etc with magic and I only consort with physics. Getting down to the working your will on the smallest particles and making them rearrange to your concept. It is odd that the definition of magic as "any science too advanced to understand" may turn out to be correct. We now know (not understand yet) that just looking at something changes it and our will does influence reality. Devils & demons are in the eye of the beholder, not the art of the witch.
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| The Devil | Mar 30th. at 11:40:08 am EDT
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Lea (Cedar Park, Texas) - Email Me
Did anyone else notice that the phrase, 'with the help of the devil' was repeated three times in this article?
Think there could be a little magic used on their part in convincing their readers that what is written is the honest truth?
Repetition of a certain phrase helps ground the information in the reader's mind and can certainly convice them to believe it.
I repeat certain things three times in many of my castings... see, their using magic and are simply too narrow and closed minded to know or understand it.
We will all have to accept that there are those in the world who see our religion and lifestyles as threatening to them and their own beliefs, but remember when they go home to the summerlands, they too, will discover that we lived supremely...
Harming None.
Blessings of the Day.
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| This Sounds Very Familiar | Mar 30th. at 11:28:27 am EDT
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Medea (Somewhere, Massachusetts) - Email Me
I am not familiar with the Q'ran.
I haven't read it, nor do I know any folks personally who practise Islam.
I would like to read it, from a scholarly perspective. But, with the current State Hysteria in place concerning anything of this nature, even expressing curiosity about the Q'ran might get me noticed, and perhaps branded a potential "terrorist" by the Reich in Progress.
However, upon reading this article, it seems to me that the Q'ran holds a similar opinon to the Christian Bible, and the Hebrew Torah as concerns the practice of mystic arts, and none of it good.
I wonder when the Christians, Jews and Muslims will stop slaughtering each other in the name of their God, who seems to be, from my observation, all the same one............
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| Ugh... | Mar 30th. at 11:17:09 am EDT
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Sparrow (Chicago, Mississippi) - Email Me
I couldn't even make myself get through the entire article. This kind of narrow-mindedness (like the other article we have from the same site) is what we all need to worry about - not just Pagans but all people who don't strictly adhere to Abrahamic beliefs. We worry so much about the Christian fundies here, but we have to remember that they are everywhere and sometimes there is no middle ground "maybe" for those people.
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| So - Where Are The "unspinners" When We Need Them? | Mar 30th. at 10:45:55 am EDT
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Silverwing (Colorado Springs, Colorado) - Email Me
Looks like this is 2 of 2 for that publication. Problem is that folks read this stuff over their morning coffee and it sticks in their brain as fact. I daresay that most of them don't read the notes on this website and, likely have not read any of Kerr Cuhulains books on the topic. So, here we go with the magic is sorcery and all you need are the right color candles and the right words, etc. to pay your mortgage, lose 20 pounds, win the lottery, etc. Magic is quite real. It is integrated into the very fabric of our lives and must be respected. When I read things like this I can only see that, to those who do not understand magic, it seems like a parlor trick arrangement for good or for ill. All this rhetoric and spin and re-swizzling of old dictionary clips isn't helping people understand us any better. It doesn't help us keep folks from getting sacked from their jobs, being unrecognized by the military establishment, and other challenges.
Some folk in this forum are mighty fine writers. I have read some of the work here and it is very articulate. I am not recommending proselytizing but I am wondering if some corrections and clarifications are possible to help the average person understand a little better. If not formal articles published, at least some good editorials responding to stuff like this in these publications? The press is used to influence. Some of us are well equipped to use that medium. Help?
Otherwise, I don't know what to do but continue to read this stuff and shake my head in sadness.
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