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[Crime]

Date Posted:
7/2/2009
11:14:57 am EDT


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Murder Trial: Dagger Blade Was 14.5cm Long

Author: Court Reporter   Source: Isle of Man Today

Title: MURDER TRIAL: DAGGER BLADE WAS 14.5CM LONG

The knife which killed Billy Rogers was a Pagan ceremonial dagger with a 14.5cm blade, a murder trial has heard.

Arizona Devine Watterson denies the murder of Mr Rogers. She admits she stabbed him, but says it was a tragic accident as a result of horseplay.

Prosecutor Stuart Kneale described Miss Watterson as a 'cold and calculating' woman whose account of Mr Rogers' death 'expanded and changed as time went on'.

The knife was bought from Stardust, a shop selling Pagan and Wiccan (white witchcraft) artefacts and gifts in Windsor Road, Douglas, for about Ł15.
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Dirty Socks Have More Appeal Than This Tripe Jul 2nd. at 11:50:56 pm EDT

nasionnaich (Stanchfield, Minnesota) - Email Me

A very wonderful example of some very poor writing skills... This especially caught my eye:

"The knife which killed Billy Rogers was a Pagan ceremonial dagger with a 14.5cm blade, a murder trial has heard."

I was not aware, until I read that sentence, that murder TRIALS could hear anything.....

Other than that tidbit, my comment on the article -- and the sensationalized excuse for the article -- is this: If the man had been stabbed with a pair of needle-nosed pliers there would have been no mention of the store where the pliers were purchased, nor would there likely have been any mention of what needle-nosed pliers are normally used for.

Hey, here's an idea... Needle-nosed pliers should be outlawed -- that or require a special permit to be allowed to purchase and/or possess a pair of needle-nosed pliers. It's what people have to do to drive a car, after all.

--nasionnaich



If It Bleeds It Leads Jul 2nd. at 5:07:11 pm EDT

Finn (San Marcos, Texas) - Email Me

I don't think the press was treating this story any different than the do any other. I've read plenty of articles about similiar situations wherein they include the grisly details of the murder weapon. One comes to mind where they took great pains to describe how the victim was killed with a crucifex. The press isn't "out to get" pagans. The press is out to get ratings and readers using every salacious detail no matter what race, religion, or creed is involved.

For that matter, I don't even think they were being irresponsible. Salacious or not, those are facts. Every story should include the WHO, WHAT, WHERE, WHEN, HOW, and WHY. When a Priest or an Evangelical Christian goes nuts or engages in a crime we hear about it. We hear about said person's religion. It isn't surprising that we would hear about the murder weapon when it is something with religious aspects.

On the subject of ritual blades, mine does have an edge on it. I keep it razor sharp. I have never seen the point in having ritual tools that do not work. There is no point in having a blade which will not cut, a cauldron which cannot withstand flames or hold enough materials to cook, or a cup which isn't safe to drink from. You get the point. While many Wiccans use their blades purely for representations, live-action metaphors if you will, there are plenty of us witches out here who use them for application. The craft isn't just about the "trappings" but what you do with them. The notion that one can buy a proper blade from a witch shop (or anything for that matter) is hilarious to me.



Using Pagan Names For Shock Value-again Jul 2nd. at 4:43:06 pm EDT

Shadowbear (Hillsboro, Oregon) - Email Me

It was only an athame if it was consecrated and used as such. Otherwise it was just a pretty knife.

She stabbed him with a knife that she had purchased in a store. Not as catchy sounding is it?

Whether it was an accident or not is not something I have any ideas about.



Up In The Air Jul 2nd. at 2:30:46 pm EDT

Dana Corby (Anderson Island, Washington) - Email Me

No way of knowing yet whether the athame was already in the house and some moron didn't understand that *any* knife can kill, whether it was snatched up in a moment of rage, or whether it was deliberately bought with murder in mind, occult shops being the easiest places to obtain daggers.

Telling lies about the reason for a death is a good -- but not infallible -- indicator of guilt. She may simply not be accustomed to taking responsibility for things. "Yes but it was an accident' may simply be beyond her ken. No way to know yet.

I do hope that the authorities will not over-react and use this as an excuse to ban the sale of athames. Vastly more people have been killed with kitchen knives than with athames, but you can get them everywhere -- as you should.



Horseplay? Jul 2nd. at 1:43:06 pm EDT

◄sasha► (Krum, Texas) - Email Me - Web

Seriously, what grown women plays with a knife?

Whether this man's death was truely accidental or murder, I'm honestly not sure, but I am really annoyed by how tis article kept pulling this 'He was stabbed with a knife, *but the knife was an athame*, and this women said she meant no harm, *but he was killed with an athame*, the knife was this long, *and it was an athame*! '

Why does it matter that it was an athame?
And why do they have to include where it was bought?



Usual Headline Hysteria Garbage Jul 2nd. at 1:07:40 pm EDT

foreverknightfan (Dardanelle, Arkansas) - Email Me

She may have gotten the knife from a " white witchcraft" shop but what she DID with it was NOT Pagan.

Would this be written the same if, for example, a killer got his or her weapon from a Christian store? A metal Jesus letter opener that looks like a dagger can be used as a deadly weapon. That does NOT mean the letter opener was intentionally used as what the person selling the letter opener thought it would be used for.

It wasn't the religion that was the basis for the murder it was the intent of the person wielding the knife. Assuming this was an athame, the knife was NEVER intended as a weapon. Athames are not used for cutting.

This story is one of those sensationalized bits trying to grab notice, thus the distorted emphasis. The author, one suspects, would never have tried to use the religion link if it was a Christian accused of murder.






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