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9/25/2006
12:37:20 pm EDT
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Druid Accuses Oxford 'Grave Robbers'
Author: Robin Turner, Western Mail Source: icWales
Title: DRUID ACCUSES OXFORD 'GRAVE ROBBERS'
A Welsh druid spent the lightning-lashed weekend in a Gower cave to highlight his claim that academics from Oxford are "grave robbers".
Retired engineer Chris Warwick, who became a druid some years ago, wants an ancient skeleton known as the Red Lady of Paviland returned to its burial place in Gower's Paviland Cave.
Despite being uncovered on Gower, the remains have been on show at Oxford University's natural history museum for decades.
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| Solution: | Sep 26th. at 8:12:56 pm EDT
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Llunmere (Germantown Hills, Illinois) - Email Me
If Oxford wants the skeleton and goods so badly, they can make a small dedicatorial museum at or near the gravesite, to protect it from burglars and to commemorate the fact that Oxford has protected it for so long.
I do not believe that keeping the remains for so long is a good thing. I believe that once recovered and studied, it should be well-documented and replaced at least in the vicinity where they were found.
Having a small visitor's center near to the remains is very similar to having a shrine, which is indeed more respectful than stacking corpses in display boxes in a museum far away from the burial site.
If they choose to have a small visitor's center, then they do not have to keep the body on display. They can simply keep the photographs and data that they've taken and assemble it accordingly.
This way:
The body's guarded,
The data collected was not done in vain,
And the tomb is intact, as it should have been.
Just because somebody's tomb wasn't zoned properly (because zoning didn't exist) doesn't make it right for somebody to exume the corpse and keep it in a glass case.
There needs to be more laws set to protect our ancestors, or else I think a lot of people will be digging up somebody else's great grandparents just to see how they lived and died....
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| Another Illustration Of The Wales/England Dispute | Sep 26th. at 2:11:01 am EDT
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Arianrhod Giluinmor (Havana, Illinois) - Email Me
Frankly the man would have probably done better to wait it out in the Gower Heritage Center or the pub in Rhossili, and raise awareness among the Welsh in the city of Swansea (the gateway to the Gower)
Taking the "Red Lady" to Oxford was probably the right thing to do.... in 1823.
But, although Oxford has had the "Red Lady for nearly 200 years, the remains were in Wales for a considerable time longer.
Frankly, finders keepers is an almost childish answer to those in Cardiff and Swansea, and Aberystwyth who want the skeleton returned to Wales (which is fully capable of preserving the remains- most likely at the National Museum of Wales or even to the point of building a new Center dedicated to the prehistoric remains specific to the Gower Penninsula) .
This controversy reminds me of the capture the flag debate in the US- from when the flags of regiments were considered spoils of war. My own home state of Illinois retains several such flags. It remains to be seen what will happen to the Confederate flags tucked away with the Illinois regimental flags they are housed with, just as what will happen with the "Red Lady" remains to be seen.
But I can hope that one of the most remarkable finds in one of the most remarkable places in the world may one day come to rest closer to home.
Brightest Blessings
A.G.
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| Unfortunately, | Sep 25th. at 10:28:09 pm EDT
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Jenna (Cary, North Carolina) - Email Me
the body should be in a museum where it can be protected and preserved. As we have seen from several other nonChristian/Muslim historical sites, radical members of orthodox religions often destroy anything remnants of paganism to deny their past. The fact is, the druids of today are not the grand order of the past where one dedicated his life to celibacy and service. They are a loosely formed group of neo-pagan worshippers who gather on full moons and weekends, but are not living in caves on a daily basis. If they were, then I would say that the body could be safely protected from radicals. We don't know for how long the current neopagan/druid movement will last, and this discovery deserves to be protected for students for many years in the future.
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