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Christians Frustrated With 'Lack Of Moral Values' To March Through Boca
Author: South Florida Sun-Sentinel Source: South Florida Sun-Sentinel (FL)
Title: CHRISTIANS FRUSTRATED WITH 'LACK OF MORAL VALUES' TO MARCH THROUGH BOCA
Christians frustrated with what they see as a lack of moral values in America will march through Boca Raton on July 4, ending the parade with a prayer rally in Sanborn Square.
The Rev. Mark Boykin said he hopes the 1.5-mile march will allow Christians and other concerned citizens to voice their opinions on a variety of social and moral issues, including "the removal of religion from the public arena," abortion, same-sex marriage, sexual promiscuity and the rise of violence and the occult.
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| Fundies Like To Go After Pagans | Jun 26th. at 6:00:54 pm EDT
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Aritimi Morgana (RotterdamJct/Schdy/Scotia, New York) - Email Me
because we are 'evil'. Pagans, in their eyes are immoral, engage in all sorts of perversion, corrupt the young, are regular users of recreational drugs, overly promiscuous, and yes, are in league with Satan.
Just to play Devil's advocate, ARE pagans moral people? If the fundies think we are so terrible, could there be a reason for their wild theories about us? Instead of gettign mad and calling the fundies bad names, maybe we can be more constructive by showing them we ARE good people, that we are NOT the monsters they've made us up to be. Stop letting the fringe pagans speak for the whole lot of us and make us look bad. Instead of cowering in the broom closet, get out there and educate the public about what pagans are.
As pagans, I don't think we are terrible people. I think we can show the public we are better than a bunch of wild-eyed, paranoid religious conspiracy theorists who see Satan lurking in every corner. Of course, if I were watching their little pity parade, I'd be having a mighty fine belly laugh at their expense.
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| All I Seem To See From Fundies Is | Jun 26th. at 5:23:19 am EDT
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Moonlight Wolf (Bradford, England) - Email Me
Their moaning that they cannot dictate what is a moral value any more. There are worse things in the world than what two people get up to in their bed, or what another person's religious practices are, or whether a woman decides to get an abortion.
What about lagging education, is that not a problem? Oh wait, fundies don't like their kids being educated because it means that their kids may question the values that they try to impose on them.
What about poverty? Oh, I forgot, fundie churches in particular thrive on poverty, through the tithes and because it means they are more likely to come to them when things get really rough. (And at present things are really rough.)
What about corruption at the top? Oh, that's right. The fundies actually want to be a part of that corruption because it means that they have a better chance to push their theocratic agenda.
Fundie churches don't thrive on things like abortion, gay marriage and different belief systems. They thrive on the real problems on the world so they won't speak out against them.
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| Such Idiocy...And Hypocracy | Jun 25th. at 11:57:29 pm EDT
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nasionnaich (Stanchfield, Minnesota) - Email Me
I was reading "A People's History of The United States: 1492 - Present", by Howard Zinn yesterday, and my attention was caught by one particular message (whether that message was intentional or not, it does stand out) .
In the world of Christianity, Financial Profit has always had precedence over Religious Morality.
Take tobacco, for example: It has always been "frowned upon" from a Religious Morality viewpoint, yet the morality of using and selling it has never stopped people of "High Religious Morals" from making a huge financial profit from it. And slavery -- The real reason slavery was ever used in America (or anywhere) is because the "Men of High Religious Morals" were, and still are today, too lazy to do the work themselves (the work is "beneath them", yet it is always the best way to instill "proper moral values" in the poor folks) .
Remember, these were the highly religious, extremely "pious" people who colonized the American continents. Their modern-day counterparts have learned the lessons taught by those "Men of High Religious Morals" very well, indeed.
I cannot help but wonder why the "Christians" who so loudly protest the "lack of morality" do not simply lead by example. Perhaps they are too busy pointing at everyone else to see how morally bankrupt they are themselves........ Oh wait, that would mean actually having to do what they say everyone else should do: Be a REAL Christian.
--nasionnaich
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| Let Us Be Examples | Jun 25th. at 4:42:16 pm EDT
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Fayte Ravencraft (Texarkana, Texas) - Email Me
I honestly feel sorry for some of the closed-minded people in this world, as ignorance breeds ignorance, and they are simply doing what they have been taught to do- condemn others who are not the same as them.
This is where the pagan community in general differs from most religions---Rather than waving the finger at those who are different, we try to understand and learn from our differences. Don't get me wrong, there are those even on our side of the fence who can be closed-minded, but as a whole we are more repsectful people who are 'different' than we are.
The best thing I know to do as a Wiccan is to be a good example, and pray that Spirit help them to see that we are all connected, and to condemn one is to condemn oneself.
Brighest Blessings,
Fayte Ravencraft
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| Well, | Jun 25th. at 3:51:22 pm EDT
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Aurora Callo (Olympia, Washington) - Email Me
promiscuity and violence are major problems today...but other than that, they seem to be protesting the things that I support. It's a common problem, I think, for people to assume that their morals are the only ones that count. For some reason, I just can't feel very strongly about this - I just see them as self-centered and more easily ignored than dealt with, which I know is a terrible view to have.
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| Part Of The Problem | Jun 25th. at 8:19:36 am EDT
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Liriel (Lehigh Acres, Florida) - Email Me
is that these "Christian values" come from a book that was for a culture that was in existence a couple thousand years ago. There are some good stories in the bible but America is NOT that culture.
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| WHO'S "MORAL VALUES".... | Jun 25th. at 5:25:00 am EDT
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Whitewolf (Schenectady, New York) - Email Me
are they talking about? Everyone has a DIFFERENT set of "values". The sheeple have had their "15 minutes of fame" AND IT HASN'T WORKED. Why don't they sit sit down, shut up, and let the human race GROW UP?
Love to all
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| ... | Jun 24th. at 11:04:25 pm EDT
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Draken (Bronx, New York) - Email Me - Web
Was it just me or did I hear "Dueling Banjos" while reading this article?
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| "Christian" Values ... I'll NEVER Understand... | Jun 24th. at 10:46:49 pm EDT
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spatch3 (Orcutt, California) - Email Me
Why is it the only moral values for self styled "Christians" are the following: "The removal of religion from the public arena, abortion, same-sex marriage, sexual promiscuity and the rise of violence and the occult???"
If Jesus were alive today he'd be preaching against the robber barons, the health insurance companies, the military and prison industrial complexes. There is way too much evil in the world to ever be concerned with the so called "issues" that so called "Christians" care about. What a load of hypocrites!
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| The Greatest Moral Problem.. | Jun 24th. at 9:29:59 pm EDT
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bigcat (peoria, Illinois) - Email Me
that they could have, is that not everyone wants or chooses to follow those rules that they want to lay down to the rest of us.
It isn't that religion has become less, it's just that people are moving on, writing their own rules,and leaving the rest behind.
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| Kinda Agree | Jun 24th. at 5:42:04 pm EDT
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Lady GoldenRaven (New Castle, Pennsylvania) - Email Me
I agree with both posters, however, I think it's not so much the religious control they are looking for in a manner of speaking. I think it is more they are using religion as their medium to lash back at the sexual revolution and all the other "moral problems" in this world. Moral problems in THEIR minds. They cannot let themselves be free enough to enjoy life and so must try and stop others from enjoying theirs.
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| Why Must They Instigate? | Jun 24th. at 4:58:09 pm EDT
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Lioness (Lutz, Florida) - Email Me
Honestly, if a pagan group were to try to have a march there, I'm sure they'd be all up in arms and protest it like theres no tomorrow. Hey Christian groups: I'm frustrated with "lack of tolerance toward the rest of the world". Anyone wanna march with me on that?!
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| I Love That... | Jun 24th. at 4:40:44 pm EDT
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Cloudspeaker (Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan) - Email Me
How supporting peoples freedom from having Xian dogma smeared all over them is the "removal" of religion. Funny, I thought our society was becoming MORE religious by accepting MORE religions.
Perhaps it is just me. LOL
Regardless, I think Sea Raven said it best when the term 'Sheeple' was coined. Roflmao!
Blessings!
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