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6/25/2009
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Religious Rituals?
Author: Joe Seelig Source: Highlands Today
Title: RELIGIOUS RITUALS?
More than three dozen doves await their fate at the Highlands County Animal Control after they were taken into custody during a marijuana grow house raid near River Ridge about two weeks ago.
Animal Control Director Darryl Scott said Wednesday that he believed the birds may have been intended for sacrificial use in Santeria-type religious ceremonies.
Scott said as a deputy and later as a Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission officer he would come across altars in the woods and other situations involving certain types of animals including white pigeons, chickens and small goats.
"It's just my opinion from prior experiences as a deputy with the Highlands County Sheriff's Office," he said. "We'd come across instances that would make you believe that's what it's for."
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| ... | Jun 27th. at 9:31:51 pm EDT
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Draken (Bronx, New York) - Email Me - Web
If someone were to describe a xian cult meeting complete with "eat of my flesh and drink from this cup," it could be construed that xian mythology is cannibalism and should be shut down immediately.
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| Shadow-slinging | Jun 27th. at 3:13:42 am EDT
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Alterax (Sherwood, Arkansas) - Email Me
The point of my post was merely to illustrate society's moral ambivalence toward killing animals for any reason EXCEPT if that reason is for a religious function counter to the currently established faith. Then it's a major item to be included in a police report and plastered all over the paper, when in the absence of non-standard religious paraphenelia it wouldn't so much as raise an eyebrow.
That's the double standard that I was addressing--why does a minority religion instantly taint this particular act as "evil"?
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| Squalling About Squab | Jun 26th. at 6:55:24 pm EDT
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foreverknightfan (Dardanelle, Arkansas) - Email Me
For you vegans out there, yes some people actually raise animals for food, slaughter them and eat their flesh. Its called survival. Try the vegan stuff with the Inuit and see how far they would get trying to grow veggies on snow.
The basic stuff about Santeria is, thanks to the internet, pretty well known. And its well known that practitioners of Santeria do have animal sacrifices. The key on what the birds were meant for is to look around the home for any signs of Santeria devotion.
Many religions, including Judeo-Christianity, practice at one time or another animal ( and human) sacrifice. The Druids at the time of Roman oppression supposedly resorted to human sacrifices and ritual cannibalism, if you believe some modern historians. And yes you can go to the Old Testament and show where one case a daughter was sacrificed to Jehovah. Plus the death of Jesus Christ is in essence a human sacrifice, if you can get the Christians to admit that.
Here's a sobering fact. Nature is cruel. Ever watch the nature videos where predators put down their prey? Some of that is hardly merciful to the prey. Over population due to lack of predators means potential disaster to the species. Drought and disease kill as many as predators do. Death by starvation is cruel.
And yes some humans are cruel to animals that way as well. The difference is that they CHOOSE to be neglectful or abusive to animals who depend upon them for food and care. THOSE people should be criminally charged.
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| More Hypocracy..... | Jun 26th. at 12:20:54 am EDT
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nasionnaich (Stanchfield, Minnesota) - Email Me
Just how do the cops know, beyond all doubt, that what they find is an altar for "animal sacrifice"? What, exactly, are the indisputable signs of such an altar? I know that we (my family) used to worship daily at an altar dedicated to the god of nourishment -- the family dining table.
Something to really think about: What if the cops found a sacrificial altar set up according to Old Testament Biblical requirements? Would such a thing be treated in the same manner as all the "Satanic" altars?
Keep in mind that the Old Testament Biblical requirement of blood sacrifice was never done away with by Jesus, so according to the Christian Bible all Christians are required to conduct blood sacrifices. And the preferred source of the blood is animals, burnt for the "pleasing odor" the Christian God loves so much.
The rituals involved in Santeria are "offensive" and "immoral", according to those who claim to be "Christian". How about those same "Christians" start obeying the Laws given to them by their own God in the Old Testament of their very own Bible?
Oh, and the question of "squab"... Doves and pigeons are very closely related, genetically, and so are basically the same thing (a "rock dove" is a pigeon) , so "squab" can be a young dove or a young pigeon. It simply depends on your personal preference and where you happen to live, regardless of the "official" definition.
--nasionnaich
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| So Non-mainstream Religion Makes It Evil? | Jun 25th. at 10:26:26 pm EDT
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Alterax (Sherwood, Arkansas) - Email Me
I just find the whole thing odd. Every day animals live inhumane lives which end in equally inhumane deaths. Sometimes it is for meat, but often it's for their skins and fur for fashion accessories, their heads for trophies, and bones and ivory for clever knick-knacks. Sometimes, it's for nothing but the "thrill of the hunt."
In the backwoods of Arkansas, where I grew up, more than once have I seen people go out of their way to run over cats, dogs, turtles, and snakes with their vehicles. The bastards don't think twice about it, and anyone that confronts them over the immorality of the act is scorned as immature, oversensitive. The brutality of the act is completely ignored; it's written off as being "all in fun". It barely raises an eyebrow, let alone a newspaper article or police report.
I don't condone animal sacrifice, but it's intriguing that society screams bloody murder if an animal is slaughtered for a religious rite but overlooks the ones slaughtered for status symbols, fashion accessories, or for no good reason at all.
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| So What | Jun 25th. at 4:02:54 pm EDT
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Murigen (Graham, Washington) - Email Me
Even if they were meant for ritual sacrifice, it's legal.
oh and I looked up squab too, on several sites
From the Food Dictionary:
A young (about 4 weeks old) domesticated pigeon that has never flown and is therefore extremely tender.
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| I Looked It Up | Jun 25th. at 2:47:59 pm EDT
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Panthea Ge (T-Town, Michigan) - Email Me
Squab is small bird, including dove.
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| Auction Advertising | Jun 25th. at 2:10:17 pm EDT
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Ahr-Ohn (Bridgeport, Connecticut) - Email Me
They wait on some registered letters they don't expect answered, so the animals are expected to be auctioned. If the doves aren't returned or sold, they'll have to be destroyed, as a non-native species, so they're hoping a good response will raise the auction value.
I've a basement, where I could grow pot, but don't have any interest in the stuff.
Arawn Graalrd
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| Wrong | Jun 25th. at 12:53:08 pm EDT
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Ironhand (St. Joseph, Missouri) - Email Me
Sorry but a squab is a young pidgeon
Ironhand
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| Oh Please! | Jun 25th. at 11:39:13 am EDT
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Panthea Ge (T-Town, Michigan) - Email Me
I have to wonder what "evidence of the Santeria religion" looks like.
Maybe there were candles and mind-altering substances inside. O.o
And maybe, just maybe, the doves were meant for FOOD! It's called squab, ya knuckleheads!
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