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11/9/2006
5:44:30 pm EST
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Voters Refuse To Return Ten Commandments To City Park
Author: The Associated Press Source: First Amendment Center Online
Title: VOTERS REFUSE TO RETURN TEN COMMANDMENTS TO CITY PARK
City voters have rejected a proposal to return a Ten Commandments monument to a public park in a referendum on religious displays on public property.
With 99% of precincts counted, the vote was 37,568 to 33,747, about 53% to 47% against moving the monument back to city property.
Other cities across the nation have also debated whether to display religious monuments on public grounds.
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| Boiseans Are Tired Of It | Nov 11th. at 3:00:12 pm EST
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Ardeaa (Boise, Idaho) - Email Me
I'm so glad this ballot issue failed. To me it's not only a rebuke against Phelps, but also against local religious nuts Brandi Swindell and Bryan Fischer. Swindell ran a pathetic campaign to win a city council seat (she was soundly trounced) . She didn't take the hint and is still trying to force her one-issue views on the public. She nor Fischer spend any time helping the homeless or needy in this city, they only decry the loss of morality and get themselves on TV. Wish they would both just crawl back to their adoring congregations and leave the rest of us alone.
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| How Bizaare Is It... | Nov 10th. at 8:45:51 pm EST
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J & V Enterprises (Sweetwater, Tennessee) - Email Me
...that an attempt by Phelps to spread his homophobic message actually resulted in something positive.
Proves that the same thing applies to religeous extremists attempting to take over control of our government that applies to any neer do well, give them enough rope and they will hang themselves.
Bright Blessings,
Jason
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| Yeah! | Nov 10th. at 11:35:04 am EST
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Dynnys Derwydd (Lubbock, Texas) - Email Me
With all the churches and living in a supposedly "Christian nation" then there should plenty of private property upon which the Ten Commandments can be displayed, instead of public, as in EVERYONE'S, park, city hall, or county courthouse.
Figth with knowledge, not in ignorance.
honi soit qui mal y pense,
Dynnys Derwydd
Pondering a display of the Codes of Hammurapi in the front yard
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| Circus Act? | Nov 10th. at 11:34:32 am EST
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Terry (Irvington, Virginia) - Email Me
This article was about a new breed of circus acts, not government and the rule of law under US Constitutional principles, right?
Regardless of whether this case (apparently) resulted in a correct outcome, the process of both legislative and judicial systems was clearly very broken. What crooked weasels, on all sides.
The 10 manic-depressive suggestions iconography (study the Indo-Eurasian migration and the Taoist meaning of "coming down from the mountain", and the psychotic nature of the "golden calf" scene) was wrong regardless of any obnoxious efforts from the Phelps klan. If this weren't serious, it would be comedic that his efforts rather than those of ACLU, AU, PFAW, or AA would pressure ridding the public square of endorsement of dominionist bigotry.
For the court to weasel and defer to a public referendum prior to rendering judgement was a political move, not a judicial one. We're a democratic republic, not a true democracy, and so there are some issues which are not rightfully open for a vote short of such strong support Constitutional amendments change the underlying rules, and even that is subject to a hierarchy where state Constitutions are subordinate to the US one over specific issues and criteria (such that rightfully, religious bigotry driven gay marriage state amendments stand to collapse, just as Virginia's former ban on corporate churches did) . For the court to defer to a ballot issue sends a very wrong message, that everything is up for political determination. What weasels and jerks on this court, looking for a political escape from doing their jobs responsibly.
Even with a legally proper result in this case, the result is not right. When the legal process is this badly broken, substantive justice was more the result of a coin toss than due process and matching procedural justice. That still results in civil rights violations, as such a broken system puts citizens and our rights at risk if other cases are handled similarly, and the coin lands on its other side. US law demands both process and outcome meet Constitutional standards.
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| GOOD! | Nov 10th. at 4:54:48 am EST
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Whitewolf (Schenectady, New York) - Email Me
who wants to HAVE to look at a list of rules that the precious xtian "god" DON"T EVEN FOLLOW HIMSELF????
( sarcasm off....)
Love & wisdom to all
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| Anyone Wanna Bet? | Nov 9th. at 10:53:50 pm EST
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Opus the Poet (Garland, Texas) - Email Me - Web
I would lay odds that Pat (Make Me Richer) Robertson, or others from the whacko religious right will use this to decry the state of morals in our country. C'mon, dollars to doughnuts (mmmm, doughnuts) .
Opus
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| Cue Nelson Muntz | Nov 9th. at 8:50:16 pm EST
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AnnieBW (Laurel, Maryland) - Email Me
HA-HA!
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| The Voters Said No. E'nuff Said. | Nov 9th. at 6:49:44 pm EST
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bigcat (peoria, Illinois) - Email Me
The people said no. That should decide that issue.They even came out to say so. Those that want it can put the darn thing on their own private property.
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| GOOD!!! | Nov 9th. at 6:01:01 pm EST
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Alpha Kilo (St Petersburg, Florida) - Email Me
The rest of the population should not have to be subject to xtianity everywhere they turn. Keep that kindof stuff on your own property or on church grounds.
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