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7/12/2009
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Jackson Co. Sued Over 10 Commandments
Author: Peter Smith Source: Courier-Journal.com (KY)
Title: JACKSON CO. SUED OVER 10 COMMANDMENTS
A federal lawsuit alleges that Jackson County officials are violating the Constitution by posting stand-alone displays of the Ten Commandments at both entrances to the county courthouse, outside various offices and even next to a women's restroom.
A resident of the Eastern Kentucky county and the American Civil Liberties Union of Kentucky are suing in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Kentucky. The suit, filed July 3, asks the court to declare the displays — nine in all — unconstitutional and have them taken down.
In addition, the ACLU is asking the state Administrative Office of the Courts to remove a 10th display of the commandments — measuring 2-by-5 feet — behind the judge's bench in the building's courtroom.
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| For A 'historical Display'... | Jul 15th. at 7:07:07 pm EDT
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Friday Scott (Middleton, Wisconsin) - Email Me
...that's kind of overkill, wouldn't you think? :)
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| What I've Never Understood.... | Jul 14th. at 1:18:27 pm EDT
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Batman (Madison, Wisconsin) - Email Me
is why a bunch of xtians are raising a big fuss over a set of Jewish Commandments. I never understood it when all these cases started to see some press back in the 90's, don't understand them now. The 10 Commandments are from the Old Testament. Christians are supposed to be following "Do unto others as you would have done to you" and "Love Thy Neighbor as Thyself" or some other tripe. Point being this: JC said to disregard everything else and just follow essentially those TWO rules. I mean, if you think about it, those 2 rules pretty much put everything else into that now, doesn't it? Why they make a statement over a set of rules that isn't even THIERS seems beyond comprehension. Obviously it's not about who's right and who's wrong when it comes to religion with them. Let's strip away the veneer on this and just see what we're really looking at - a bunch of self-rightous idiots who don't even know thier own rules, their own history of their own religion, know how brutal and judgemental it and they have become, nor do they care anymore, so much so that they want their way or they'll resort to probably violence. And to think - all over the wrong set of rules for them. Dolts, all of them.
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| This Is A No Starter | Jul 13th. at 1:16:17 pm EDT
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Orion 6Xray (Park City, Kentucky) - Email Me
Im not saying its not an issue, but there are some huge hurdels to get over.
Former Govener Ernie Fletcher (R) passed a law early in his reign that allowed the posting of religiouse documents at government buildings. And it is up to the descression of the locals on which religiouse documents are posted.
Down here in the Glasgow/Bowling Green area every government office has a copy of the Ten Commandments in them, even the DMV. And if you try to post any other religious document there is usually a lynch mob waiting for you when you go to leave the government office you in.
I say good luck to these people, but dont hold your breath.
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| Minority Defendants | Jul 13th. at 10:49:43 am EDT
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Ananta Androscoggin (Greene, Maine) - Email Me
It seems to me that such behavior on the part of the "Officers of the Court" there regarding these displays should be grounds enough for all losing defendants of minority faiths to appeal. Such blatant one-religion-only endorsement by the court is a very public notice that people of all other religions coming before this court are by intent treated as second-class not-quite-citizens to be given the fuzzy end of the lollipop stick as a matter of due course.
And it should be grounds enough for such appeals to have some success.
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| People, Not Posters, Need Penalties | Jul 13th. at 10:16:37 am EDT
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Terry (Irvington, Virginia) - Email Me
In a case like this of egregious and undoubtedly malicious violation of core tenets of Constitutional law, it's not the biased and prejudicial poster content that is the primary problem. It's the people who supplied and installed them in government facilities, and a mob of voters who elected officials willing to so blatantly violate the most basic of their civic and legal obligations.
This ACLU action goes not nearly far enough. An investigation to identify perpetrators and initiate felony conspiracy to deprive citizens of civil rights under color of law prosecutions is needed, as well as legal process to enable that in locations where it would likely be suppressed by "prosecutorial discretion". Voters need to take a hit too, as ultimately they're responsible (including the minotiry ones who oppose corrupt political mobs, in our system) . What if a fine large enough to raise local taxes 10% for 3 years could be directed to nonprofits protecting related rights, somehow ensuring that thug RRR groups like Alliance Defense Fund couldn't perpetrate their style of frauds to compete with ACLU, AU, PFAW, and other legitimate public interest legal charities?
Taking down posters is clearly required by law, but it falls short as to ending careers of every government agent responsible. Legal process to add the terms "convicted felon" and "barred from office for life" to those responsible would only scratch the surface of the real goal of neutral secular government, given how RRR infested regions can poison jury pools and impose many other subtle biases. It would at least be a start.
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| Just Remember... | Jul 13th. at 7:57:17 am EDT
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Rev. Sea Wind (Louisville, Kentucky) - Email Me
...this is the same state which the Creation Museum calls home. Any questions?
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| IF THEY WANT.... | Jul 13th. at 6:44:01 am EDT
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Whitewolf (Schenectady, New York) - Email Me
the 10 commandments displayed, let them put them up in THEIR OWN office, not where they are inflicted on everyone else!
Love to all
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| Poor, Poor Oppressed Christians..... | Jul 13th. at 1:09:37 am EDT
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nasionnaich (Stanchfield, Minnesota) - Email Me
"Foundations of American Law and Government" displays....
I wonder if any of these include what is known as "The Code of Hammurabi", or the Laws of the Iroquois Confederation (the famous "6 Nations") . If it has its beginnings in any non-Christian culture, I doubt it is given much -- if any -- space at all in those Bible-Belt Southern Courthouse displays.
In states such as Kentucky, where Government officials and judges are always spouting off about how "America has forgotten its Christian beginnings", I find it highly ironic that they need to be constantly reminded of what they are always telling others to do. I also find it to be a prime example of extreme hypocrisy that those same Government officials and judges refuse to obey the Laws which they demand that all others obey.
As for "looking for attention", I agree with others here. It's the people who keep throwing those "10 Commandments" at everyone else that are always looking for attention. They need to grow up and act like the adults they are supposed to be.
If individuals who work in the building truly need to display a copy of the "10 Commandments", they can put it on the wall of their PRIVATE office.
--nasionnaich
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| Someone's Looking For Attention? | Jul 12th. at 8:09:39 pm EDT
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Ursyl (Murrysville, Pennsylvania) - Email Me
Really?
In light of the consistent rulings that such displays are unconstitutional, I have to say that it's the yokels who insist on continuing to create such displays who are looking for attention, not the Constitution-minded citizens who object and act upon their objection.
That judge for instance.
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| Outside The Restroom? | Jul 12th. at 3:37:36 pm EDT
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Araelus Stormwolf (Bury St Edmunds, England) - Email Me
gives a whole new meaning to mind how you Go, doesn't it?
It should be a sin not to wash thy hands though!
BB
Stormwolf, over and out
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