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7/11/2007
7:49:49 am EDT
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Comfortable Christian Majority Can’t Comprehend Persecution (Opinion)
Author: Jenel Stelton-Holtmeier Source: In-Forum (ND)
Title: COMFORTABLE CHRISTIAN MAJORITY CAN’T COMPREHEND PERSECUTION
It is hard for many in the majority to understand why the presence of the Ten Commandments on the mall has such a discomforting impact on others because it’s a discomfort that many of them have not experienced. The homogenous majority of Fargo protects them from having to experience such a feeling of outsideness.
The simple fact of the matter is that in the 231 years that this country has existed, Christians have not had to endure the persecution that so many others have. Sure, once upon a time, in a land far far away from here, there was persecution. It’s one of the founding ideas of modern Christianity. But, how many current practitioners were in Europe when the Council of Nicaea was convened?
How many were in Gethsemane 2,000 years ago?
The majority has become so comfortable with their lack of discomfort that they cannot comprehend what true persecution is. They throw out the semantics of persecution simply because others being victimized are trying to change their own situation and the majority is feeling left out.
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| There Is A Small Bit Of Humor Here | Jul 12th. at 2:09:31 am EDT
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Shadowbear (Hillsboro, Oregon) - Email Me
Did you notice that the 10 commandments mounument was put there to advertise a movie? Not for a religious purpose at all. I was actually in the 10 Commandments and am glad it was advertised so well.
I hope that neither the christians nor anyone else has to suffer from religious persecution in the future. This country has had enough of it - and should quit doing it either. Most religious persecution is just covering up some kind of political or economic motive anyway - even Hitler had an economic and political motive for killing the people he did, it really did not matter what the religion was if they had something he wanted or could use politically. Oh, well, we can hope that people will grow up before we run out of time.
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| Comfortable Christian Majority Is A Myth | Jul 11th. at 3:17:48 pm EDT
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karrie9 (Kenosha, Wisconsin) - Email Me - Web
Oh, some Christians (only some) can not only fathom it, they'll use membership in minority religions against others in child custody cases, on the job, and so on.
Christians also have had to deal with the Republican Party being hijacked by the far right, deceptive meddling/tampering, and even church takeovers.
Just one example of the latter would be... [Web LINK]
Are journalists counting too much on major media as a resource when doing their own writing?
Majority rule is grand when voting people into office but causes monstrous damages when applied to civil rights and religion.
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| A Good Article | Jul 11th. at 1:33:42 pm EDT
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Medea (Somewhere, Massachusetts) - Email Me
Written by someone who is trying to tell something to people who won't listen, or are intellectually incapable of understanding what she is trying to say.
We're all in it together, but trolls and haters will perpetually be attempting to grind their axes, even when the blade's gone and they're hitting the handle.
We're all in this together.
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| Just To Clarify... | Jul 11th. at 1:28:06 pm EDT
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Eir's Initiate (Fargo, North Dakota) - Email Me
As a native Fargoan, I thought I'd clarify WHY there is a monument listing the 10 commandments on city property (it's actually on a grassy space between the public library and an events center) . It was put there in the 1950s or 1960s (I forget which, as I wasn't alive at the time) in honor of veterans, but also as part of a campaign to promote the movie, "The Ten Commandments."
At the time, it was a definite endorsement of a single religion by the city. If you look at the speeches made at the ceremony, anyway.
But most of the arguments to keep it are that it is "historical." My own personal opinion is that it should go. However, Fargo remains in a vastly conservative state (North Dakota, for those of you who don't know) . It may be a community that celebrates the arts and more liberal than most, but compared to other places, it can still be very conservative. Actually I should say it still has some extreme conservatives.
The article wasn't bad. And trust me, it will get read in the newspaper. Controversy in the LtE section always gets attention.
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| What? | Jul 11th. at 1:19:33 pm EDT
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Ezri (Centennial, Colorado) - Email Me
The majority has become so comfortable with their lack of discomfort that they cannot comprehend what true persecution is. They throw out the semantics of persecution simply because others being victimized are trying to change their own situation and the majority is feeling left out.
You're kidding, right? If you think Christians aren't persectued or harrassed anymore, you're fooling yourself. Heck, they do it to their own sects! As an earlier post mentioned, there are several Christian groups (Mormons, Jehovas Witness, Nazarene, etc) that aren't accepted by the other groups. They get harrassed and ostracized.
The Pope just came out and said: No one else has it right, you're all WRONG!
I think that most pagans feel that Christians don't get their share of harrassment because we don't take the time to understand - we're too busy thinking we're the only victims.
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| Good Article | Jul 11th. at 1:13:28 pm EDT
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Titania (Smallville, New York) - Email Me
And those few monority Christian sects that have experienced persucution, where persecuted by Christians from other majority sects. Please note that I did not sat all Christians, just other Christians.
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| A Good Article.... | Jul 11th. at 11:45:48 am EDT
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bigcat (peoria, Illinois) - Email Me
Establishing such a momument in the town square is in effect saying--if you want to live in peace-you must worship our way.
It sets up the shadow of a theocracy that negates the constitution.
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| Just The Other Day ... | Jul 11th. at 10:48:01 am EDT
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Ananta Androscoggin (Greene, Maine) - Email Me
It struck me that perhaps the most accurate and best metaphor (or is it an analogy?) for describing the ethical position of those Christianists who are so loudly screaming about how their rights are being taken away:
Pretty much the same bitching and moaning as came from the medieval nobility when they began to lose the authority to practice "Droit de signeur." Poor dukes and barons, (Christians) the laws doesn't enforce your right to rape newly-wed peasants (persecute all other religions to your heart's delight) anymore.
If this is really an accurate way to point out the disingenuous nature of their claims to persecution about losing their "special rights" which they never should have had under the U.S. Constitution, perhaps we should begin spreading this concept around a bit more, elaborating on the hypocrisy and corruption which they wish to preserve to their own benefit.
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