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5/15/2009
1:09:53 pm EDT
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N. H. Governor Says He'll Sign Gay Marriage Bill -- If Changes Are Made
Author: Eric Moskowitz Source: Boston Globe (MA)
Title: N. H. GOVERNOR SAYS HE'LL SIGN GAY MARRIAGE BILL -- IF CHANGES ARE MADE
New Hampshire Governor John Lynch today said he would sign a same-sex marriage bill into law -- but not the one passed recently by both houses of the state's Legislature.
Lynch, who had expressed opposition to same-sex marriage in the past, said the bill approved by the New Hampshire House and Senate did not do enough to assert that churches and other religious groups would not be forced to conduct "marriage ceremonies that violate their fundamental religious beliefs."
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| Silly Provision! | May 17th. at 3:21:46 pm EDT
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Ixacacau (Moore, Oklahoma) - Email Me
A provision to protect churches that don't want to marry gays is silly. Who in their right mind would want to get married in a church that thought they were perverts? This is just more fear-mongering to insist that there be laws to prevent gays from forcing certain churches to marry them.
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| Bad Approach | May 16th. at 11:01:17 pm EDT
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Terry (Irvington, Virginia) - Email Me
This article is poorly written, as to explaining the Governor's extortion tactics.
Apparently the Gov is threatening to veto a gay marriage Bill that's already passed, unless another proposed Bill is passed as separate legislation, immunizing churches and a range of related corporations from anti-discrimination actions. The way this has been proposed likely conflicts with Federal law in many cases, especially when some large churches operate tax subsidized medical or social service agencies, or open commercial enterprises not as private religious operations, but as legal "public accommodations".
There's a far better way to avoid the overdue legal mandate that if clergy act as government agents officiating marriages, they be required to officiate for all if for any. Eliminate archaic laws mandating officiants, whether Justice of the Peace, judge or other court officer, or clergy acting as state agent under archaic traditions of theocracy. That would return any church involvement in some marriages to being truly private, and keep the government out of the business of signing up clergy as government agents, who if in that role, should in fact be compelled by law to not engage in any form of protected criteria discrimination.
Return the state civil contract form executed before witnesses, and you're legally married. No clergy, no other officiant imposed by law.
Want a church wedding? Irrelevant to law, any more or less than no wedding rituals, a drunken orgy, or party on the nude beach.
It's ludicrous to enact the proposed law, due to the Governor's extortion demands or otherwise, when that law would fail Constitutional tests due to predictable even if unintended consequences, while a far simpler remedy to fix the underlying issue is both available and overdue to address what are additional Constitutional defects in marriage law due to be eradicated, not expanded.
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| Heading Them Off At The Pass? | May 15th. at 11:22:13 pm EDT
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bigcat (peoria, Illinois) - Email Me
While there has never been any real move in any state that has endorsed Gay Marriage known thus far, there has always been the deliberate fearmongering of the idea that the state will somehow force them against their will reminiscent of a shotgun ceremony, with the preacher being held at gunpoint in order to perform it.
What is needed is a clarification in order to quell these ridiculous rumors and pull the teeth from this argument-while at the same time allowing Gays to be able make a choice between a religious or civil marriage among those agencies most likely to marry them.
By putting it in writing, those screaming the loudest will have to back down since it has been made clear that they are not going to have to perform such an onerous duty.
I'm sure that they won't hesitate to come up with some other excuse to fight this, however, since their hope is to deny them altogether in whatever way they can.
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| I Think This Is Good | May 15th. at 7:08:43 pm EDT
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Avagdu (Independence, Missouri) - Email Me
that they have in law or something, that those religious institutions that do not approve of gay marriage not worry about "if" they are going to be forced to marry same sex unions.
While i don't see it as a real issue, the conservative arms of religions are screaming that they'll be forced to marry gay couples against their beliefs.
Honestly, i've never seen or heard of anything that even remotely suggests that those who don't approve of gay marriage will be forced to marry a gay couple.
I think it's all related to the fear mongering that the conservative sects constantly talk about, this and other issues of being forced.
While i do think it's nice to have something in writting for the paranoid, I can not dismiss the fact that somewhere out there, is a gay couple wanting to make waves, because they can.
As a gay man, it appears the gay marriage ball is rolling. Hopefully the momentum will increase but i'm also no fool as there are some religious groups that will fight this tooth and nail.
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