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Hello, My Name Is: Satan Likes Pizza, Too
Author: Wendy Mitchell (blog) Source: Austinist (TX)
Title: HELLO, MY NAME IS: SATAN LIKES PIZZA, TOO
Believe it or not, Satanists are pretty much just like you and me. This is assuming, of course, that you and me wore black trench coats and played with big foam swords in the courtyard outside my college dorm. Which I did not do. But still. There's more to a person than his or her taste in outerwear or choice of sword construction material. When it comes down to it, the meeting of Satanists, Dark Pagans, Left-Hand-Path Occultists, et al. really wasn't that different from any other meeting of like-minded individuals that I've attended.
In fact, I'm pretty sure a meeting of, say, Promise Keepers, would have frightened me quite a bit more.
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| *snicker* | Aug 14th. at 3:19:57 pm EDT
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Elistra (Lexington, Kentucky) - Email Me
It probably says a lot for my college experience that the description of this gathering struck me as unremarkable to the point of being excruciatingly mundane.
Foam swords. Hah. Wusses.
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| No One Can Withstand Direct Questioning | Aug 13th. at 2:16:30 pm EDT
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R. Cicero (Seattle, Washington) - Email Me
I hear your complaints, brother, but you're asking for a world no one owns. When you consider the rate at which eclectics assume and discard belief systems, we are lucky to know these people have any specific associations at all. Check back in 6 months, and things will be different still! I'm not sure that's a bad thing. What about hard-line traditionalists who know little about the wells from which they actually sprung? We have our share of those too. And the hereditary claims. Wer are ALL suspect. I'd wager that this pizza party reflects over 95% of what you'd encounter at an average pagan or witch meet and greet. I'm not talking about belief systems, but general human behaviors. I can only Imagine any one of us standing on a pedestal before Socrates. In less than five minutes, you would know for sure that you know nothing at all. Neither did he. Which is what he knew!
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| LOL | Aug 13th. at 2:04:26 pm EDT
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Silver Faery (Hays, Kansas) - Email Me
Sadly this could have been a setting where it is all the people I know (through in a Christian or two...and you get the drift) . I was amuzed by it, but then again ones like me really don't need explinations for what they are talking about.
Silver Faery
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| Great Article! | Aug 13th. at 10:13:30 am EDT
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Devi Spring (Toronto, Ontario) - Email Me
This was fantastic! I'm glad there some journalism done putting LHPers into a more reasonable light. Actually, I think alot of RHPers would do well to become much more educated on LHPs as well - I see ALOT of misinformation being spread even within the magickal community. If we can't even get our own facts right, how do we expect law enforcement to get their heads out of their "it's a satanic cult" asses everytime they find roadkill?
The gathering described kind of reminds me of a really cool discussion panel that was done at a local Pagan fest here once. They called it "Paganically Incorrect" and had about 8 panelists from different magickal paths, including some Left-Handed ones. They asked very thoughtful questions, and then the panel bantered about them from their various perspectives. It was great!
In any case - very great article!
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| Soft-Pitch Journalism | Aug 13th. at 10:10:10 am EDT
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Finn (San Marcos, Texas) - Email Me
I'm not too impressed with the article. It seems written for wry (and not particularly effective humor, rather than any kind of actual look/discussion with the people discussed. I don't get the impression any direct, proving questions were ever asked. It sounds like the journalist just sat there while that sat around being pretentious, ate, drank, and avoided any in depth discussions of their philosophies or theology. About the only thing of any substance we get is the morsel about the fact that certain Satanists don't worship Satan as an actual entity but rather as a symbol. Okay, how about going into that?
The journalist could have discussed the meat and potatoes of the philosophy. This particular stripe of Satanist believe in "social darwinism" taken to an extreme degree. They believe it is a dog eat dog world and it is their job to be the top dog. It isn't a nice philosophy. It isn't a forgiving philosophy. It is, in fact, a way of looking at the world which is nearly the opposite of what many Wiccans and Neo-Pagans believe. Please note, I'm not making judgement about it myself, I'm merely stating facts (facts which they didn't bother to put into the article) .
A bit more information about the Otherkin would have been nice. What kind of Otherkin are we talking about. A few questions of who, what, when, where, how, and why this person believes they aren't human would have been interesting. What about the werewolf. You can't just hang that out there and not address it. Are we talking about someone who was bitten by another werewolf, someone who works a spell to do it, someone who just meditates and "visualizes" him/herself as running around and chewing on things, or? I'm not trying to be glib. I'm pointing out that this article told us nothing whatsoever.
If you are going to throw out a bunch of loaded terms like "Dark Pagan" you need to go into what makes them different from the not so dark Pagans. Either those titles mean something or they don't. Is there a difference of theology and philosophy behind it or just a bunch of losers adopting pretentious titles to be even more different than the different? That was harsh. It is called cutting to the point. We already know most people like pizza. We already know that most people can sit around and drink alcohol and are normal most of the time. How about you exercise some journalistic integrity and tell us some things we don't know?
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