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7/14/2008
2:13:56 pm EDT
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Relations Between Wisconsin And Amish Growing Icy
Author: Wheeler News Service Source: New Richmond News (WI)
Title: RELATIONS BETWEEN STATE AND AMISH GROWING ICY
Relations are getting a bit more strained between the government and Wisconsin’s Amish, 12 years after the Supreme Court tried to let the two co-exist.
A court battle appears to be shaping up involving a two-year-old state law which makes farmers register their animals with the state, to avoid things like the 2007 pseudo-rabies outbreak in Clark County.
Assistant state veterinarian Paul McGraw said farms in a five-mile radius had to be contacted.
Because half the places were Amish, they had to visit them instead of calling on the phone, which could have saved some vital time had the outbreak spread.
McGraw says the Amish oppose animal registrations because a so-called “mark of the beast” goes against their religion.
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| Must Just Be Wisconsin Amish | Jul 16th. at 1:35:09 am EDT
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Thoreyadin (Randolph, Ohio) - Email Me
I have worked with the Amish here in North East Ohio and have not seen any of this type of activity in the past. I have not heard of any of them having problems while hunting. Telephones or lack of? There are at least one or more phones that are shared between close proxcimity groups around here. Kinda sounds like the Amish in Wisconsin are the ones being contrary.
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| I Stan Ma Grun | Jul 15th. at 10:01:00 pm EDT
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Winddragon (anderson, South Carolina) - Email Me
Let the Amish be. If they get a sick cow does it affect anyone outside their borders? I don't know. I would not be happy about getting a radio chip between my teeth from a Whopper.
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| I Ain't Amish But... | Jul 15th. at 7:01:48 pm EDT
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Snork (Salol, Minnesota) - Email Me
I am a small farmer and NAIS scares the hell out of me. The cost of equipment and registration; the paper work (one reading of the rules indicates that I'd have to register with the government every time I rode one of my horses to the mailbox) ; the fact that I have to register every animal (maybe even dogs and cats - it's not clear) while the multi-nationals can register whole herds (on the agreement that if even one of their animals goes down they will destroy the whole herd and loose the profit - yeah, right) .
The whole thing was dreamed up by the maker of the radio identification chips we'll all have to buy (gee, no greed motive there) , along with Cargill, et. al. (heck, they don't like competition) , and the USDA (who wants more tax dallars and power) .
I'm not a believer in Revelation and the Number of the Beast, but I don't trust the Republicrats and any system that can track the location of every farm animal in the country could sure be used to track all the two legged live stock as well.
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| The Mark Of The Beast??? | Jul 15th. at 6:39:14 pm EDT
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Jenna (Cary, North Carolina) - Email Me
Are these people serious? And how can anyone support them? The government is simply trying to make sure that there isn't a disease outbreak (but then again, I'm sure many people on this forum also think that they shouldn't have to vaccinate their kids) . It's easy to idolize the Amish from afar; I've seen them up close. Just about every summer as a child, I would go to my aunt and uncle's farm in Lancaster, PA which is in the heart of amish country and I saw first hand their way of life. The children (especially the daughters) are worked like dogs and people think nothing of backhanding a child (once again, mainly girls) across the face in public for simply asking for a piece of candy or something along those lines. Once again, I'm not blasting ALL Amish; I just have seen that their lifestyle isn't the lovely "Little House on the Prairie" that outsiders seem to think that it is. Their children are denied a very basic education, their lives are mostly hard physical labour, and are spent cowering in superstitution. If that's your dream life, then go for it, but as for me I'm eternally grantful not to had been born into that nonsense.
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| Frankly I Don't Blame Them... | Jul 15th. at 11:34:55 am EDT
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bigcat (peoria, Illinois) - Email Me
At least the Amish take care of their own business as best they can. And I do agree that some rules pushed by the government can be somewhat intrusive. While I agree that some compliance may be necessary to get along, some rules are a true imposition and some exceptions could be made.
It -is- often the big producers that seem to get by and allow their standards to slacken some. The overcrowding of the livestock often is a main reason for their outbreaks and it takes time to find and curb an outbreak when they happen, often resulting in the mass death of livestock involved. A smaller farm has more at stake, but if they are responsible, fewer problems as they have fewer livestock and are often more attentive of them.
It isn't fair for the small farmer, Amish or otherwise, to have to pay for the slipshod practices of the large ones.
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| Lots Of Different Issues Rolled Into One | Jul 15th. at 9:13:19 am EDT
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Lora (Leominster, Massachusetts) - Email Me
WRT the orange thing: The Amish in PA are perfectly happy to put orange triangles on their buggies and wear orange vests for their own safety. Their more usual solution, however, is to put up signs that say "No Trespassing and no hunting allowed on this property," then stay the heck away from parklands and hunting areas during deer season. That doesn't stop all the idiots from wandering into their cornfields, but they have their own guns and shoot in the air to warn errant hunters who didn't happen to see the signs, the barbwire fences, the house, or the really angry Amish guy shouting at them.
I have to agree with them on the animal registration issue. The federal gov't is pushing NAIS, which is basically designed for the sole benefit of large feedlot-type meat producers, to drive out competition from small meat producers. The big feedlots only have to register one license for their entire facility, which covers thousands upon thousands of animals, while small producers are supposed to get a license for each individual animal--i.e., Hormel would pay a one-time fee of a couple hundred bucks to cover thousands of potentially contaminated animals, while a small Amish farm would have to pay several thousand to register 20-50 head of cattle individually. And the main sources of outbreaks have all been traced to the large operations, not the small farms!
Wisconsin should do like other states when it comes to agriculture: offer free testing and necropsy services through agriculture schools and do inspections to monitor outbreaks. I've had Dept. of Ag. inspections, as I keep chickens, and they're no big deal. The guy shows up at your house, looks over your animals and the barn, if they look sick he takes a blood sample. You get a letter with the results and what, if anything, you're supposed to do about it.
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| Not Big Brother At All. | Jul 15th. at 4:42:12 am EDT
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Jeff Kincaid (Lynchburg, Virginia) - Email Me
I always get a bit amused at the paranoid "The "Man" is gonna getcha" tone of some of these responses when it involves the gov't enforcing law against a particular group. While it certainly seems that Wisconsin could take a few pointers from PA in dealing with the Amish, this is one of those circumstances where the Amish have to remember that like it or not, they do live in the lands of 'the English" and they have to obey a few laws.
To me, this is no different than Florida not allowing a muslim woman to wear a burkha for her driver's license picture.
Religious exception only goes so far you know. And that is a good thing.
Peace and Light
Jeff
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| Amish | Jul 14th. at 7:13:59 pm EDT
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Lunaschylde (Palmyra, Pennsylvania) - Email Me
I live in the middle of Amish Country, Central PA.
I've always thought their way of life intriguing. Personally, I'd much prefer to ride in a buggy than in a car. A horse can react to danger by itself, a car needs us to react first. While I don't agree with or understand many of their customs, I do respect their rights to practice them.
To cite on example from the article, as long as they are willing to not press charges (and based on their own teachings, they either can't or won't) if they get shot, it should be up to them to wear the bright hunter orange or not; not up to the state government.
My thought is that if electricity ever quits working (such as after a large scale EMF pulse or if the polarity of the north and south poles switch) , it will be the day the Amish laugh, for they will know how to survive, and we will not.
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| Hell | Jul 14th. at 7:05:24 pm EDT
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Orion 6Xray (Park City, Kentucky) - Email Me - Web
We may learn a thing or three from the Amish. Sounds like they have thier head on straight about big brother and tyrranical governments.
Find More info -- HERE
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| NOTHINGN AGAINST THE AMISH.... | Jul 14th. at 5:44:22 pm EDT
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Whitewolf (Schenectady, New York) - Email Me
but I think they need to start catching up to the modern world....
Love to all
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